Wide Receiver Rankings, DeAndre Hopkins Reaction and Tua
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Speaker 3:What is up my dudes? This is Trent with the fantasy football dudes podcast. I'm joined by Phil Jordan and Seth. On today's episode we have our wide receiver rankings. Should be a fun one. We got some divas and all other sorts of stuff football related. But before we get into that, phil you doing okay, we are recording on a Thursday night. Recording on a Thursday night, yeah, so it is a little different. I don't know if Seth's had enough time for his divas yet. Nice and cool in here. Nice and cool, very cool.
Speaker 4:I have a diva.
Speaker 3:You have a good diva. I've been talking this up for a while now, so I'm excited to hear about it.
Speaker 1:Oh yes, yeah, he has a good diva, yep.
Speaker 4:I reported it within about a minute of seeing the diva?
Speaker 5:Seeing the diva and I wondered and Trent was very confused when he didn't know what Seth was saying.
Speaker 1:I was confused too, because it was like sporadic texting.
Speaker 4:Well, it's because I was driving while I was texting, so I was just trying to be.
Speaker 5:No, it's not in search for you. Some smart people were able to just understand it for the very job. Well, yeah, I just wasn't.
Speaker 4:I'm endorsing texting and driving, but I had to report it then because I probably wouldn't remember by the time I stopped driving. So, yes, it was a little hard to understand.
Speaker 1:Maybe if you're I don't know speak English language for longer than 30 years, just not able to comprehend, but your comprehension skills are below low par. You know well you guys almost took a. It's like when.
Speaker 4:I say Trent's illiterate and then like he goes, no, I'm not. And then about three message bubbles later he spells a word wrong.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was wrong there for the 19th time that day. I think it was angel.
Speaker 3:I used angel instead of angle.
Speaker 4:No, you know you said instead of angel.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no, I know that's what I meant. That wasn't there, though I'm. I'm decent at my theirs. Yeah, it's taken me a long time, but I'm decent at it. Angel and angle gets me a lot, but what has helped me with that is emojis, because the emoji will pop up. Whether it's an angel will pop at the end, or it'll be like the angle. And that that does help. That does help.
Speaker 1:Apple has saved Trent's career.
Speaker 3:No one else has noticed that when they put those two in there.
Speaker 1:I don't. I'm not saying either of those words. I don't know when the last times I've texted.
Speaker 4:I love when Trent makes like the mockups for the drafts and then like we find out like something, he's like, is this look good? And then he's like I'm like, oh, yeah, it looks pretty good. But I'm like, oh, but this is two words. He goes sorry, canva doesn't have. Like yeah, no, canva doesn't have spell check.
Speaker 3:It's terrible. It really messes me up. I rely on spell check and today even on our draft. We had a draft for our million dollar, million dollar and did a little bit with the voting. I used an old mold, one of our old draft boards back when I used to team one and it was, so I did. It was team ABC. I forgot to change that on the mold. And then the voting I put team one through four.
Speaker 1:So, just so you like that. It's all right. Big guy, don't worry about it. I will say that. That was a really that was a really good draft. If you haven't already heard that draft, please go back and listen to that draft. Trent continues to call Seth Jordan's first mate throughout the entire thing Cause.
Speaker 2:Jordan said that he wanted to get a. It's so stupid we got, we got Skipper and Gilligan over here.
Speaker 1:That was a pretty. That was a good draft, I think. But you asked me how I'm doing. I'm not doing. Well, yeah, you got a lower back pain, I have a lower back injury and I I've explained it this way like I'm a fast Twitch athlete leaving, living in someone who's just like slightly overweight. Does that make sense? Like I think that I'm like my the. If you see me like run a route, you may be surprised. Like wow, that guy actually ran a route decently, but like it's it's severely slower. It's almost like I'm doing like walk football, but it's like a crisp route.
Speaker 4:Does that make sense? He runs these routes like pretty decently, but then like not only five plays later he's crawling off the field because he just destroyed his ankle or I'm out of gas or the gas tanks on him.
Speaker 1:Have you been playing?
Speaker 2:walk foot, he's panting.
Speaker 1:We should play a game of walk football in Trent's backyard.
Speaker 4:Two on two, that'd be great Walk football is the best, and also indoor.
Speaker 1:we need to get an indoor trend. The problem is that we don't have like a little hookup indoor basketball thing here.
Speaker 3:I have one as soon as we get to that. No, Jordan would disembarrass us.
Speaker 4:Jordan would disembarrass us, and when?
Speaker 1:we basketball.
Speaker 4:Phil's explaining his back hurting and, like him, being some athlete, he's. He's the one who told us his back hurt because of these chairs. So I don't know why he's giving us an athlete background when he's claiming it's the chair that hurt his back.
Speaker 1:Well, trent is probably going to be like icy hot in here it does Bio freeze.
Speaker 4:But it's also not the worst. Not a sponsor, yet Sponsor Phil and all his many injuries.
Speaker 1:Yes, exactly, I had a knee injury like six weeks ago.
Speaker 3:This guy's a walking billboard for icy hot, oh man Band-aids. Icy hot. Whatever Band-aids I'd love to Phil, you don't need a band-aid for a bad back.
Speaker 2:Stupid.
Speaker 3:Should we just let Seth? Should we let Seth get into his diva real quick and then we can go into our wide receiver range yeah, but do you really you guys don't mind these chairs.
Speaker 1:Can I just ask that real quick?
Speaker 4:They're fine, I think they're okay.
Speaker 3:For a guy who doesn't like them, you sure have me bring them to your house for parties quite a bit.
Speaker 1:The sad part is, it's true, like out of at least three parties I've had, you've brought these chairs. You've also told me you like the chairs. It's just recently, yeah, recently. I think it's just age catching up with me. You know, that could be my diva of the week too. Let's hear it, seth. I think we need to get into this, yeah, because I've been waiting longer.
Speaker 4:I'll go back into my background. I saw a movie before I came so I got the news that we were going to start later, so I was like, oh my gosh, see a movie. I saw the Oppenheimer movie.
Speaker 3:How was it?
Speaker 4:I thought it was pretty good, it was okay.
Speaker 3:What is that about exactly?
Speaker 4:It's about the making of the atomic bomb. And so it's the story of the doctor behind it. It's pretty interesting, but my diva. So not related to the movie, not related to the movie, I was just kind of giving my background on what I did and that was basically what I did this week is. That was it, and the reason why we're going to early is because I'm going to be gone on Sunday, but my diva. So I happen to be driving home from work and usually the street I drive on quite frequently because my in-laws live near this street is a street that crosses right next to a golf course and this golf course has the front nine is on one side of the street and the back nine is on the other half, so the golfers go under the bridge and whole nine, or sorry, whole 10 is right next to the other side. And so I happen to be driving over and I'm on the phone talking to my wife and I just drive past this guy who is openly taking a leak on a tree Like he's hiding himself from his friends, but he's in the full view of the road I've seen the same, so I look over and I just see this guy exposing himself to me and I'm like this guy has to be completely wasted at 10 am in the morning.
Speaker 3:Do you know who he is? Name him.
Speaker 4:I don't know who he is, but if you're an older guy, no, no, he's like a prior age. Wow, I was shocked. I was like this guy's either like dumb. He's either dumb, or he is just, or or he is clearly intoxicated.
Speaker 3:Dude Seth, so you don't like you don't accidentally expose yourself, unless you are intoxicated or you are just a better picture for me. So he was like he was like right next to a tree, or is he just right there on whole nine? No, he's on, he's on whole 10.
Speaker 4:So just he's on whole 10 and right about to tee off on whole 10. His friends are teeing off. He's behind the tree and so whole 10 over here where they're teeing off. He's behind a tree over here, right next to the golf cart path on the other side, and the road happens to be on the side of the tree that he's standing on and this guy's for sure taking a leak. I can see the stream. That's how close the road is to this guy.
Speaker 3:Take a picture to last longer. No, I don't want to. I was just like no.
Speaker 4:Seth, that's my diva. No, no, people not knowing their surroundings or being so intoxicated that you just can't make a smart choice. I'm like if you go to the bathroom, the clubhouse is literally 50 yards from this whole might be less.
Speaker 1:I'd said that those people who live right there, I think you get exposed all the time, because I've seen the exact same thing happening, driving in that exact same, but it's the worst spot Like if you want to, you can pick a more open spot, but like somewhere between whole 13 and whole 15.
Speaker 4:We're not like every card that drives by on the road is going to see you.
Speaker 3:Sometimes you just got to go.
Speaker 1:This wasn't me, by the way but no, no, Seth, I know exactly what you're talking about and I honestly thought about calling the golf course and reporting it at one point.
Speaker 4:I was just shocked because I was on the phone and I just looking at these guys teeing off and he is just leaking. Man, I'm just like what are you doing?
Speaker 1:Like you are exposing yourself. I'm so glad you brought this up. It's bad Seth, it is awful. I'm like yeah, that's my diva People who are either too dumb or too intoxicated to hide themselves, and the problem is is that he, that person, went behind a tree, and that's almost like covering your eyes and thinking that people can't see you. Do you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 4:Well, it's like. It's like he thought he'd hide himself from his buddies, but like I'm not going to hide myself from strangers. Yeah.
Speaker 1:From the general population.
Speaker 4:Yeah, Somebody needs to call the. Call the police on that corner, or just go use this thing and rest him. You're on a golf cart. Being an adult is all you're asking.
Speaker 3:I'm not yeah.
Speaker 5:Hey Phil, are you someone to like? You're like it's a pot calling the kettle black. You don't want to test to get up and take a leak every five seconds in this building.
Speaker 1:He's just he actually the privacy of a place. I'm not, I, I, I, I, yeah, but like you can, actually going into a toilet?
Speaker 4:Yes, Are you? Are you going? No, yes we?
Speaker 1:I am, yes, it's a little bit different.
Speaker 5:Yes, that's a little bit, but you can't control yourself, so how you expect other people to control themselves?
Speaker 1:No, I know that that's wait, that's not.
Speaker 3:We are not encouraging public people on the phone.
Speaker 4:Phil does not indulge in public indecency? Yeah, he also has.
Speaker 1:No self control when it comes. Those are two different things. They're not even the close to being the same, Not even close.
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Speaker 4:I'm taking all my pairs on this trip. I'm going, yeah, all of my pairs.
Speaker 1:Yeah. It's no, you should end of the humid and they'll help you, because you're going to human climate. It's actually, I mean, tropical. You're going to a tropical climate. So, yeah, so go ahead, guys. I'm still can't get over what Jordan said.
Speaker 3:Dude's 20. Comparing you to a flasher, basically is what he did.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's like comparing people who use a in-home restroom.
Speaker 3:What you're talking about happened.
Speaker 1:No, no, we're not going about someone who's using the bathroom outdoors, like in front of people, like that's not even the same as like using the restroom at someone else's house.
Speaker 4:That's like Phil going on a run and he has to pee in the middle of the road because he can't help himself. Yes, which I would never do, that's what Jordan implied.
Speaker 5:Well, I don't know my evidence of Phil's self-control is very low, like he has not exhibited very, very high self-control.
Speaker 1:Self-control and indecent exposure Like that.
Speaker 2:They're drastic. There's a fine line.
Speaker 4:They might pour like Jordan. Jordan Probably like, but Phil likes to walk it.
Speaker 1:I just want to know, I just want to know like what other things are Jordan comparing in his mind about? Like other people and like that is like so wildly different. It's very different. It's so wildly different the correlation is not far off. No, it is not. I mean yes it is it's?
Speaker 3:terrible. It's not. This is so weird. This is weird, guys, for first time.
Speaker 1:No, it's like someone has to use the restroom, Therefore they can't make it to the restroom. Like that, doesn't? Those aren't the same thing. Do you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 3:I really didn't think this was going to be a bathroom talk.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
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Speaker 3:Follow us on Twitter and Instagram at tffdudes Really helps out and hit that bell and thumbs up on YouTube guys. We really appreciate that. We've been really growing out there on YouTube. So, phil, we're going to do the wide receiver rankings you want to read last year's top 30 and then we have our top 40 here. Maybe we'll just buzz through 40, through 30 and then kind of go from there. We all got our rankings here. Actually, what I was going to do is.
Speaker 1:I mean, if you want me to go 30 through one, I can, but I was just going to go 20 through. Yeah, do that, that's fine. I'm just going to start 20 through one and go through last year's finishes. And so, chris Godwin, we're starting at 20, going to one Chris Godwin, garrett Wilson, t Higgins, dk Metcalf, mike Evans at 16, terry McClaren at 15, brandon IUC at 14, tyler Lockett, christian Kirk, jamar Chase, amari Cooper, marks is at the 10 mark, devonte Smith is at the nine, amonra St Brown at eight, jalen Waddle at seven, cede Lamb excuse me at six, AJ Brown at five, stefan Diggs at four, tyree Kill at three, devonte Adams at two and Justin Jefferson at one, and so that would be like the top 20 there. Was there any? Just to go back to it real quick, let's recap just a couple guys there. Was there anything that shocked you Like? I remember we, when we were talking about running back last week, there was a couple. People were like, oh yeah, I can't even believe that that person was in the in the top 10. Is there anyone who you remember from last year in the top 20? You're like, wow, I can't believe that person was either so low or so high.
Speaker 3:The one that still kind of surprises me is Christian Kirk, that high up, even though he had a good year the whole season at number 12. He kind of took off a little bit more at the end of the season, right, jordan? Is that sound right? Or is he pretty solid the whole year? He was kind of solid the whole year.
Speaker 5:Honestly, the beginning of the year is pretty good. Yeah, I think a Mark Cooper is just way higher than what I think.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the only reason that doesn't surprise me is cause I brought it up a couple weeks ago.
Speaker 5:but it is still weird. Tyler, tyler lock it up there too. That's kind of crazy. I think I found it Both guys that I'm kind of staying away from this year, but they're both very high up there, yeah, and Tyler.
Speaker 1:Lockett had such a good year and DK Metcalf was like four spots down. It's surprising to see DK so far down when Geno Smith, fantasy wise, had a pretty good year last year.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 5:But I mean two top two, top 17 guys.
Speaker 4:That's why Geno Smith had a pretty good fancy year, like it's not One the surprise-.
Speaker 5:You guys, if they would have been flip flopped, you'd have been like, oh, that's kind of normal.
Speaker 4:That's what I'm saying, like I mean I think Colin is the big one that jumps out. I think, really I mean he's just really good. I just I don't know. You never feel like he's that good, though You're right. Like the consistency is there. Like he has almost 1200 yards, the five touchdowns I think it's just like the receivers that score. Like look all the rest of these guys he is the lowest amount of touchdowns compared to even the guys below him. Like the touchdowns are just huge, you know.
Speaker 5:He's a guy who, if you ever just played with a real quarterback, his numbers will be off the charts.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, All right. So let's move into, uh, let's move into this year. Um, we, we're going to go through. You guys, you want to go from 40 to 30 or 31 Trent.
Speaker 3:Yeah, let's do that and start with those guys over there. I'm still pulling some stuff over here.
Speaker 1:Seth, you are missing a 38. So if you want to throw someone in there, you can. Let's start with Jordan. Um, Jordan, you want to give your list 40 through 31.
Speaker 5:Yeah, honestly, I don't love like my last 35 for 40, but uh, I'll just go for it. I feel like I maybe could have changed the stuff for now and I thought I'd gone back and done it, but uh, at number 40, I got Michael Thomas hashtag for the brand uh 39, and Jacobi Myers that's so dumb. John Dodson 37, tyler Lockett 36, markies Brown 35, mike Evans 34, george Pickens 33, michael Pittman 32, jerry Judy 31, deandre Hopkins and at you said 32.
Speaker 1:Yeah, just stop at 31. So DeAndre Hopkins is good. Seth, you haven't got your guy in there. Trent, you want to go or do?
Speaker 4:you want to go, I'll go right here. Okay, go ahead. I'm just going to fill it in. Okay, go ahead, seth. Uh, I have Tyler Boyd at 40, traylon Birx at 39. I'm going to throw in. Who would I say I was going to throw in here, whatever, it doesn't matter. Uh, cortland Sutton at 37, hollywood Brown at 36, darnell Mooney at 35, brandon Cooks at 34, kaderios Tony at 33, george Pickens at 32, and Jerry Judy at 31. I said I was going to throw in.
Speaker 3:You just think about it a little bit. I'll give you mine. Go ahead At 40, I have Tyler Boyd. At 39, I have Traylon Birx 38,. I have Cortland Sutton 37,. Marquise Brown 36,. Darnell Mooney 35,. Brandon Cooks 34,. Kaderios Tony 33,. George Pickens 32,. Tyler Lockett 31,. Michael Pittman the guy I feel like I'm too low. Possibly right here Darnell Mooney doesn't seem right to me, but it's the DJ Moore impact. Like I just feel, like you, I think you're way too high.
Speaker 5:I think I'm too high on Darnell Mooney.
Speaker 3:Oh, way too high I just the more, the closer we get to the season, the more I'm thinking fields might be just a better thrower than what he was last year and can really open things up. Like I struggle even like where to put DJ Moore this year with that team. Like where do you have DJ Moore? Jordan, you don't think he's to have a ton of yards? I have DJ Moore at 22. 22. I have met 19. So I guess just all bears guys like that. I've had trouble really putting where to put them. I might be too low on Kaderios, tony. Also, I don't know where you have. I think we're all.
Speaker 5:So for the record, like I think we're all high on Kaderios Tony.
Speaker 2:Are we high on most people Compared?
Speaker 5:to like ESPN rankings. Espn is consensus 46. Like Jacoby Myers, I think I might be too high on here. I put him in there just I think he's really safe. He's a safe guy, but you could easily have him in the 40s. We're missing IEUK. I'm just not an IEUK guy. But yeah, espn has IEUK as consensus 34 and I have him out of my top 40.
Speaker 4:So I'll go ahead and put Jordan Addison in at my 38 there. I don't think I have him listed up here, so I'll just throw him in there.
Speaker 1:Okay, the can I can I say something real quick? I think everyone's kind of putting their line on the sand on Deontay Johnson versus George Pickens, but we everyone, I think here I'm trying to see if Seth has Deontay Johnson listed, I do 25. 25. Okay, and then you have Pickens a little bit farther. So I mean we think that Deontay Johnson again I know we're not saying anything shocking here we think that Deontay Johnson is definitely the guy there and in Pittsburgh in terms of like most, most targets, most receptions, biggest year this year.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I'm just having that offense in general.
Speaker 1:So I think that you've even, yes, you're, I think three, three legitimate pass catchers and fire move Pickens and Deontay Johnson. No one had. Oh okay, you didn't need not, alan.
Speaker 5:Robinson, the corpse of Alan Robinson. But I mean he, yeah, he's way down there. I mean I think, if you like, yeah, I just I think that Pickens is more boom bust than Deontay. Deontay is going to be a little bit safer week to week.
Speaker 1:Cool, all right, let's do.
Speaker 5:uh, let's go again, trent you shake your head at Michael Thomas. I don't get it. Well, what's, what's the deal there?
Speaker 3:I don't know the for the brand. Like it's just Michael Thomas we bring up every year on this pod. This is probably the lowest he's ever been on here. I don't.
Speaker 5:I actually am somewhat high on the Saints offense this year, like with Derek Carr, chris Alave, uh, michael Thomas Shaheed's. There they have some decent tight ends and taste them. Hale Joanne Johnson, like I don't know. I think this might be a little comeback here from Michael Thomas. Yeah.
Speaker 3:What's sad is, if it's a comeback, he like, would you consider it? So when you say come back here, you think he'll finish higher than 40, right? Or do you think 40 would be considered a comeback here?
Speaker 5:for Michael Thomas, it's played like 10 games in three years. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:The healthy part is the problem that's he was good last year when he was playing.
Speaker 1:What would you consider a comeback here, Trent Top for Michael.
Speaker 3:Thomas, probably top 10.
Speaker 1:Just because his ability is a big.
Speaker 3:Well, the last time we like really really saw him. Was he what wide receiver one, and he really hasn't played since that year right Like a full season. Uh, he had that one year he played and he had like two TDs the whole year, or was it zero the last, like I don't know. It's been so, it's been so long yeah.
Speaker 1:We can move on from the Michael Thomas, but, uh, so Jordan, we have him there, let's go. Let's go 30 through, unless you guys want to keep talking about 40 through 31. Let's move on from let's move to 30 to 21. You want me to go, right?
Speaker 3:here yeah.
Speaker 1:Go ahead, trent, all right.
Speaker 3:You said 30 through 21.
Speaker 1:30 through 21,.
Speaker 3:Correct, all right, I have Jerry Judy at 30, mike Evans at 29, debo Samuel at 28, chris Godwin at 27, deontay Johnson at 26, dk Metcalf at 25, christian Watson at 24, deondre Hopkins at 23, christian Kirk at 22, and Keenan Allen at 21. Go ahead, seth.
Speaker 4:Okay At 30,. I have Tyler Lockett, 29, michael Bitman, 28, mike Evans, 27,. I have Jackson Smith and Jigba 26,. I have Debo 25, deontay Johnson, 24, christian Watson, 23, dk Metcalf, 22, Deondre Hopkins and 21,. Christian Kirk.
Speaker 1:Do we want to do we? You're going to say something there, jordy.
Speaker 5:I was just going to read mine. What were you? Going to say yeah, go ahead. Okay At 30, I have Cadarius Tony Jayson, 28, jordan Addison, 27, debo Samuel, 26, mike Williams, 25, christian Kirk, 24, chris Godwin, 23, deontay Johnson, 22, dj Moore and 21, christian Watson.
Speaker 1:Nice. Yeah, sir, it's not like we've done this pod before, We've done rankings before and we have three people that are giving their rankings, so I don't know what's going on with me. Debo, samuel, do you guys want to talk to him a little bit? You guys are all within one of each other. Is there anything there that you want to bring up? Just kind of like it doesn't need to be said type deal or anything.
Speaker 5:His numbers weren't great last year and I just.
Speaker 1:He was also beat up a little bit in injury.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I mean I'm not high on the Niners offense. I think they just run the ball a lot I am not high on I think their quarterback situation is very suspect.
Speaker 1:So Wouldn't you almost like him because of that, though to some extent I don't think he's gonna get that many handoffs, though. No, I'm talking about getting like little dumb downs things like that.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I think he'll still get some handoffs, but not as much as we.
Speaker 5:Christian McCaffrey hurts him a ton.
Speaker 4:It'll come out of a weird space, Like it'll be a trick. He'll get the ball, but it'll be out of some trick play that'll be a run or he'll line up back there with you know, Like it's possible, they have the weird backfield where they have Mitchell McCaffrey, Debo and Train Lance back there.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he'll have some, a couple blow-up games. I don't it's really hard to game plan about those 49er guys because even like Kittle, like he doesn't. He wasn't super consistent last year but he has some huge games huge plays.
Speaker 4:Yeah, because the this just happens with the offense working with him.
Speaker 5:I mean he had 632 yards last year receiving yeah.
Speaker 3:How many games do you play? Two touchdowns.
Speaker 1:He didn't play a full schedule.
Speaker 5:Played 12.
Speaker 1:So he missed five games.
Speaker 4:How many rushing touchdowns did he have?
Speaker 5:Three and 230 yards.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean, were those all pre-CMC though?
Speaker 5:I don't know, probably hit eight.
Speaker 3:No, he had some.
Speaker 5:He had eight rushing touchdowns a year before. So he was playing 14 touchdowns to five touchdowns.
Speaker 1:It's an interesting, we don't have to keep.
Speaker 4:I think you hurt him a lot too.
Speaker 5:It's just a lot of guys there. The CMC thing hurts him a ton. What?
Speaker 3:about DeAndre Hopkins.
Speaker 5:That's what I was, I think you guys are entirely too high on DeAndre.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you think too high Because of his location now, or I have him at 31 and you have him at Seth, has him at 22 and Trent you have him at 23.
Speaker 5:23. I just don't understand why you guys have him so high.
Speaker 4:I made this before I found out where he was going.
Speaker 3:To Tennessee. I readjusted him and moved him up a little bit. You moved him up. Yeah, just a bit.
Speaker 1:You mean closer to 40 or closer up, closer to one.
Speaker 3:I think I had him.
Speaker 5:You like him at?
Speaker 1:Tennessee. Let's let him explain. Did you move him closer to one or closer to 40?
Speaker 3:I was just looking at, I was just like AJ Brown put up some decent numbers two years ago, I think DeAndre Hopkins still has some in the tank Like do I want to draft? I think 23 for a guy as talented as DeAndre Hopkins I think is pretty good. Like Tana, that doesn't mean nothing.
Speaker 5:You could have DeAndre Hopkins out there and Phil's throwing the ball. It's not going to matter. Tana Hill has had decent board yards and Tana Hill's not going to be playing quarterback for the Titans this year. You think it's going to be Levis? It will guarantee be Levis halfway through the year.
Speaker 3:Who are some of so?
Speaker 5:They bailed on him from Malik Willis last year. What are they going to do with Levis?
Speaker 3:I don't think they're going to do the same thing where like, hey, let's throw a rookie out there. Real fast.
Speaker 5:They're not going to win games. They're not like.
Speaker 3:You don't think they'll win games if Henry's healthy, like I think they'll. They're in the AFC South Jordan Like. None of the defenses like scare me in that conference.
Speaker 5:I just, I don't know.
Speaker 3:I think that I think you just hate anyone on the Titans, always, no matter what.
Speaker 5:No.
Speaker 3:You bump them a little bit. No, I like their tight end, I like a jig this year.
Speaker 5:I think a jig is a good spot this year. I like Tyger Spears. I like him as a lower end running back target.
Speaker 3:I'm sorry, I'm sorry, you just don't like Henry. I think I just don't. I don't know why you think the Titans are going to be good, like I don't think they're going to be good, but I think if Tana Hill's throwing the ball the whole game.
Speaker 5:You think Tana Hill's?
Speaker 3:good I Well. Let's see how good I think Tana Hill is. What's he ranked on my rankings? I have him at 26.
Speaker 5:So then, why are you going to take a number one target there? Oh like.
Speaker 3:Because, like, even like, cooper Cup had a decent fantasy season last year and Stafford was terrible while he was playing. Like, when Cooper Cup was playing, he was wide receiving one. Yeah, but Cooper.
Speaker 5:Cup and John Gerhopkins are two completely different animals. Cooper Cup can take a slide to the house. John Gerhopkins has to be able to catch the ball down the field and I think I know.
Speaker 3:but that's what I like about him is he's going to go up and get it, because I think he can go up and get it anywhere almost.
Speaker 5:I mean John, the guy has some serious hands. He was also bad last year, Trent.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but like the Cardinals with like who is his quarterback? It wasn't really Like I don't know if he can really judge anyone on the Cardinals Kyler Murray, like who's their quarterback, it was.
Speaker 5:Oh. So you're saying You're proving, you're proving my point, exactly Like Tana Hill's not good, but you're saying that he had a bad quarterback last year, so that's the reason why he was so bad, I think.
Speaker 3:Tana Hill's better than the third and second-string quarterback he had for the Cardinals the half of the season. Colt McCoy.
Speaker 5:I mean Trent, the guy hasn't he's had. I mean, yeah, he's played.
Speaker 3:He's barely played any games last two years, yeah because he had the PEDs deal and then last year was he hurt or was?
Speaker 5:last year the PEDs. Last year was the PEDs. Last year was the PEDs.
Speaker 3:Was he? Did he miss eight games last year? Six games, yeah. So I think that hurt. I just don't know if I saw enough of him really last year to really be like, oh, this guy's done, like I think I'm not saying he's done but, like I don't think 23 is that crazy of a ranking, like PFF has him at 28. Like I know, I'm higher than him than PFF, but I still think the talent's there that he could put up some decent numbers.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I just have. I like to trust receivers with good quarterbacks and good offenses and I just do not trust Ryan Tana Hill, I think that guy.
Speaker 3:Well, we'll get up to him next. But I have another guy that I feel weird ranking too, that I keep not knowing exactly Tana Hill.
Speaker 5:Lost Tana Hill in 2020. He threw for 33 touchdowns almost 4,000 yards. The next season he threw for 3,700 yards and 21 touchdowns. Last year threw for 13 touchdowns, yeah.
Speaker 1:Sorry, I'm just looking at how many games he played.
Speaker 3:And I think most of that had to do with AJ Brown being gone. I think AJ Brown made Tana Hill a lot better.
Speaker 5:I think you can't compare AJ Brown and Deion Jorhopkins. That's too completely different.
Speaker 3:You just think so. You think the wheels are completely gone off of the no, I'm just saying as like, because AJ Brown's like a take it to the house kind of guy.
Speaker 5:I just think that, like there One's a lot, I mean AJ Brown's will have probably 25, 26.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but when did the wheels start falling off wide receivers? Is it 31?
Speaker 5:There's just a lot of guys I'd rather have with way more upside than Deion Jorhopkins, I think. I mean I have Deion Jorhopkins at 31. I don't feel like I'm that low on him.
Speaker 3:No, no, I don't think you are.
Speaker 5:I just like. I'd rather take chances on JSN Jordan Addison, like Christian Watson, like those guys, do you like?
Speaker 3:Yeah, higher than Jordan Love. I just need to see a little bit more from two. But yeah, I agree with what you're saying with those guys.
Speaker 1:Well you guys. The other thing too is like and Seth and Well, both of you guys have him ahead of DK Metcalf.
Speaker 5:Yeah, like I don't understand that Like I don't get it.
Speaker 3:Well. Seth said he did it before the rankings and he thought he was going up a flow or something.
Speaker 4:And well, I did it before and I just never made the change after I found out where he's going. I probably would have moved him, but I just never thought in my head after I found out where he was going, to change my ranking.
Speaker 5:Like yeah, Trent, why over DK Metcalf?
Speaker 3:That's I think. I think there's a lot of mouths to feed. What did DK finish with last year?
Speaker 1:He finished at 17. 17. And the target was at 13.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think there's enough wide receivers there that it's just spread around more. I don't know who's someone on that Titans team that's going to steal targets from.
Speaker 2:Traylon Birx I like Traylon, but I Traylon or Chig.
Speaker 3:I need to see something with a little more than Chig before I say he's going to steal targets from Like. Chig had an OK year last year, but Traylon or DeAndre Hopkins way better than Chig.
Speaker 5:You're asking who's going to steal targets. I.
Speaker 3:All right, let's move on. And I'm saying I don't think those guys are that good to do it. I do like Traylon Birx, like I'm willing to take some dart throws on him and some wigs. That's here.
Speaker 5:I just, I don't know, I just think it's crazy you have DK ranked over.
Speaker 1:I think that's my big thing. I think and maybe because I'm a Seattle Seahawks fan, you know I just don't see a world where DeAndre Hopkins finishes ahead of DK Metcalf this year.
Speaker 3:I don't know. I don't know, phil, all right, move on.
Speaker 5:I have a question why don't you have Jordan, addison or JS in ranked in your top 40?
Speaker 3:I probably just might have thought I had them in there and didn't Like just going through it. That's possibly what it was Like.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I think Jordan Addison is prime for a huge year.
Speaker 3:I like Addison. I almost put him there, like where Marquis Brown was. I just figured in number one. I should put in the top 40.
Speaker 5:No, because not all of them are created equal. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Addison is one where like yeah, he could be really good. I'm not. I struggle putting rookies in earlier, and especially this class. I'm not huge on them. Js is the one I feel worse about than Addison, because I just think he's a target guy.
Speaker 5:But so is Addison, and the Vikings are going to throw the ball 50 times a game this year.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I really don't know why I don't have those guys in there Jordan and then.
Speaker 5:JS in like. I like JS in. I'm lowest on Tyler Lockett out of the three Seahawks receivers. I think JS in the studying Addison and JS in are both studs. I think they could push for like top 25 guys.
Speaker 4:I bought the Jersey.
Speaker 3:I thought, you bought the cool jerseys.
Speaker 4:I bought the JS in.
Speaker 3:I was trying to sneak in that Seth, bought the Russell Wilson throwback Seahawks jersey, but the time didn't come through.
Speaker 4:He built custom made one.
Speaker 1:It says 12, and then it's Russell Wilson 200 bucks, to just put three and then Wilson on the back.
Speaker 4:Those yeah.
Speaker 1:Those jerseys are pretty cool, did you see?
Speaker 4:that on Twitter it, like an old tweet from 2020, came up from Russell Wilson saying bring back these jerseys, and it was an edit of him wearing, like the old throwback jerseys and everyone's like bringing that tweet back up. Oh, because he was they're like trolling him now they're like.
Speaker 1:Russell Wilson man.
Speaker 5:That guy is no one feels sorry for us. That guy's heart. That's all I have to say. All right, let's go.
Speaker 1:Let's go 20 and 20, and let's go 20 to 11. So I'm going to let Jordan start, since I skipped him over, go ahead.
Speaker 5:Jordo. I got a Mario Cooper at 20. Terry McClure at 19. Keenan Allen at 18. Drake London at 17. Dk Metcalf at 16. Devontae Smith at 15. T Higgins at 14. Jillian Waddle at 13. Devontae at 12. Chris Alave at 11.
Speaker 3:All right, I'll go. I have Mike Williams at 20. Dj Moore at 19. T Higgins at 18. Drake London at 17. Chris Alave at 16. Devontae Adams at 15. Stay, you go all the way to 15.
Speaker 1:All the way to 11.
Speaker 3:Terry McClure at 14. Jaylin Waddle at 13. Garrett Wilson at 12. Calvin Ridley at 11. Yeah.
Speaker 4:Trent, that's the digits with one one, not one five.
Speaker 2:Okay at 20.
Speaker 4:I have Keenan Allen, 19. Mike Williams, 18. Dj Moore, 17. Amari Cooper, 16. T Higgins, 15. Drake London, 14. Terry McClure in 13. Jaylin Waddle, and then 12. I have Devontae I think it's Devontae Adams Yep, that's right. And then 11. I have Devontae Smith.
Speaker 3:Devontae Adams was one that I just wanted to put higher and I just couldn't make myself put them higher.
Speaker 1:Well, why don't you answer the question? It's not, he's not. Devontae Adams and DeAndre Hopkins are completely different, but there are similarities.
Speaker 5:There's similarities, for sure, in the tears, in the relative Correct, but you have Devontae significantly higher.
Speaker 1:Again, it's Devontae. Do you want to talk about that?
Speaker 5:Well, okay, if DeAndre Hopkins had a good quarterback, I'd probably put him like low twenties, like twenty eighteen and twenty two. Who's the writer's quarterback? Can you listen? Can you listen to me or you want to interrupt me?
Speaker 1:I'm asking probing questions. I'm giving you an answer. Okay, okay okay.
Speaker 3:I'm sorry.
Speaker 5:I said if DeAndre Hopkins had a good quarterback he'd be eighteen and twenty two. If Devontae Adams had a good quarterback, he'd be five to seven. Okay.
Speaker 3:That's fair.
Speaker 5:Or four to six, but he has a bad quarterback so he's at twelve, so he dropped a little bit.
Speaker 3:So he's the same standard, yes, the same standard. He's saying Derek Carr's a good quarterback now.
Speaker 5:I will. Derek Carr won Devontaevich Aaron Rodgers who was good back then for most of his career Last year. Derek Carr's special situation because him and Devontaevich boys and so we all knew that they were well. We all knew that he was gonna get the ball a ton last year and I actually think Derek Carr is good, a good quarterback for wide receivers. Not necessarily good for like winning football games. Like I like Derek Carr, I think serviceable quarterback. He will help your receivers and why I like Chris Alave a lot this year. I like that St Olafants in general because I think Derek Carr gets the job done for fantasy purposes. But yeah, I mean that's my reason for Devontaevich. I think Devontaevich is low. It hurts to put Devontaevich at 12. I think we had him at what five? Or did we have Devontaevich last year?
Speaker 1:The projection, or where did he end? We had him at two last year.
Speaker 4:He ended at two. So, Trent, we all had him at two. He ended at two guys he had 14 touchdowns.
Speaker 5:I mean, the guy was a stud last year.
Speaker 3:This whole like tier right here from like 20 to 10, I had a hard time ranking, like I wanted to move all of them up.
Speaker 5:I think it's a really fun tier. Like it's a fun.
Speaker 3:And I'd be happy with pretty much all these guys in my third round picks.
Speaker 5:Same to your point, Trent Terry McClourn will almost be a borderline top 10 guy for me if I get a quarterback. But he doesn't, so he's a 19. Like.
Speaker 3:And what he finished at last year he 14.
Speaker 5:15.
Speaker 3:15, yeah.
Speaker 5:Like I, Keenan Allen for me is just kind of on the way down a little bit, just getting older.
Speaker 3:I have Keenan Allen and Mike Williams right next to each other. Like I don't, maybe I'm too low on Mike Williams.
Speaker 5:I think you're too high on Mike Williams.
Speaker 3:Just because you think injuries or you think the rookie All of it, like I think you're. I think Herbert has a better year where he's just spreading the ball around a little bit more.
Speaker 5:Yeah, like I just think your argument for.
Speaker 3:I also always really like Mike Williams.
Speaker 5:I know you're a Mike Williams guy. I was surprised you're not higher on Drake London Trent.
Speaker 3:I, he's another one. I was like I was going to put him higher and I just like once I started putting names down, like I probably spent more time on this 20 to 11 than I did the whole list, like I kept looking at like who goes where, and I had a larvae up a little higher, then I moved him back. I had Devonte up a little higher. I moved him back.
Speaker 5:You guys are both real, sorry, keep going.
Speaker 3:Trent, I had Jalen Waddle at. Like I had him, I think, at 11 and I moved him to 13. Like I'd Garrett Wilson in my top nine and then I moved him, I switched Garrett Wilson to monitor St Brown. Like I did a lot of, I probably spent most of my time in the 20 through 11 rankings on this.
Speaker 5:Why are you guys both so high on Devonte Smith? Devonte Smith, you have met an eight Trent Devonte Smith Says you have been 11. I have him at 15.
Speaker 4:I'm just Smith, finished at 10 last year.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I just think that he's gonna be kind of similar to that.
Speaker 4:I think he's gonna get the same production.
Speaker 3:So second, so you think he'll be like, obviously things will be a little worse, or you just think these other guys are gonna do so much better, it's just hard Like so I have a larvae.
Speaker 5:Devonte Adams, jalen Waddle, t Higgins I guess for me I look at, jalen Waddle is the clear number two there, t Higgins clear number two. T Higgins is a better quarterback, well, has a better. I think Joe Burrow is a better pure throw over the football in Jalen Hertz and doesn't have to and T Higgins and Waddle don't have to compete with to take Trent's words, a running threat of running quarterback at the goal line type of threat. And Devonte, I still think Goddard is a pretty significant piece there, like that they're gonna use.
Speaker 4:And he was hurt a lot of the year.
Speaker 5:Yeah, so like I just, I just they're close, though they're all real close, you know, like Waddle, higgins, devonte, but I'm gonna always just go back. Devonte is clear number one and I know on a team that has a horrible quarterback. And then Chris Alave, for me, is a clear number one there.
Speaker 4:I don't know if I. I think I've. I think I left that O'Lave in mine you don't have a larvae.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's one I'm missing, that's the one you were gonna put at.
Speaker 4:I think that's why. Yeah, this is 38. What?
Speaker 3:messes me up on these. Though Jordan is like I'll do stuff and then I'll like be like ah no, that guy's way too low, then you gotta move your whole graph down, then I miss a guy. You understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 5:I do it. I put 40 names on a doc and then I just go one by one Go back and forth.
Speaker 1:That's what I should do. Do we wanna keep going or is there anything you wanna talk about? Cause? You like this, you like this. 20 to 11 section Jordan. Do you have anything else you wanna talk about here?
Speaker 5:No, I just I'm higher on a larvae than probably you guys. I just I think Derek Harkins the job done for fans. He's a very good larvae.
Speaker 3:I think I'm too low on Tua and maybe that's just cause we don't know what his status is if he'll play the whole season.
Speaker 5:Well, I was the guy, though, who can take one in the house he's necessarily need. Yeah, and Tua's good, like Tua was good last year.
Speaker 3:Yeah, totally got hurt. Yeah, so last year he finished as QB. What is this right here? I have it right here. I mean he finished QB 15.
Speaker 1:And he doesn't have Waddle was wide receiver seven last year.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and they have, they have. Like I think I'm too low on Tua and plus he finished his arm slave. That's gotta give him some you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:He had some Teddy Bridgewater Teddy Bridgewater was the Q backup and then someone else and they have Mike White there this year.
Speaker 5:They have nobody. They have no. There's no other competition for targets.
Speaker 3:No, there's not. It's Giseki left too, and not like he. He wasn't a target hog, but he's at the Patriots right.
Speaker 5:Yes, they have no. Like it's Braxton. Berrios River, craig Kaft, robbie Anderson, cedric Wilson. Like there's just nobody. Jalen Waddle's draft capital, durham Smythe, eric Sauber at tight end. Like there's literally no one here.
Speaker 3:No but Waddle's draft capital is great, guys. You can get Waddle in like the back, like end of the second round, like mid third, sometimes, like Waddle's draft capital is perfect, like I'm trying to snag Waddle anywhere I can get.
Speaker 5:My issue is that I normally take a Lave over Waddle.
Speaker 3:Do you and do you still think like I guess you have them higher?
Speaker 5:Yeah, I just I'm. I'm being on a Lave this year. It's crazy that you could probably get both. Yes, there's drafts, but I ended normally it's like Garrett Wilson a Lave Jalen Waddle, always right around the same spot. I usually attended Lean. Or it's like a Monoras St Brown Garrett Wilson a Lave Jalen Waddle. For me I take Waddle the fourth out of those three out of those four. So I don't have a ton of those in my best ball drafts I've been doing, but I do. I do like Waddle on the surface.
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Speaker 5:I have 10 to six. Calvin Ridley at 10. Garrett Wilson at nine, almonra St Brown at eight, cd Lam at seven and Stefan Diggs at six.
Speaker 1:Cool Seth, you want to give us your 10 to six.
Speaker 4:Calvin Ridley at 10. Almonra St Brown at nine. Garrett Wilson at eight. Cd Lam at seven. Tyreek Hill at six.
Speaker 3:Trent. I have a Mari Cooper at 10. Almonra St Brown at nine. Devonta Smith at eight. Tyreek Hill at seven. Calvin CD Lam at six.
Speaker 1:I mean what? What is there anything there, like you feel? I mean, I feel like the top 10 is the hardest to talk about, because I think everyone's just like yeah.
Speaker 3:I think the top four is the easiest almost no, no, no, yes, I think I'm a little low on Hill.
Speaker 4:I mean, I think maybe if I replace Hill with digs, maybe that's a little more appropriate.
Speaker 1:You have him just outside of the top five.
Speaker 4:Yeah, have him just outside of the top five. I think about this. The top six, I think really top seven can be easily jumbled to where it's not like. I don't think anyone beats Justin Jefferson this year at one, but I mean Cooper Cup can easily be at seven and CD lamb, you know, becomes three, or digs becomes three, you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah Well, and that's what I'm saying. That's why it becomes so much more difficult to talk about, because I think everyone's just like, yeah, it makes sense, like no one's going to get into arguing over six and five being swapped. You get what I'm saying a little bit.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I think you guys are higher on digs than I am.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that's. That's the only thing. I am a little lower on Hill or me, or yeah, I mean Trent or lower.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I don't get why you have Tyreek at seven Trent. Yeah, why do you guys have Tyreek so low?
Speaker 3:Tyreek, because I think Waddle's going to be competing with him, so I know that they just had to talk to him seven and three last year.
Speaker 2:Yeah, tyreek said he's going for the 2000 mark this year. They have nobody. There's no, there is literally nobody there.
Speaker 5:Trent yeah, I think I'm too low. Braxton Barrie, ozone River, craig Crap, that's their competition for targets.
Speaker 3:I do like Braxton Barrie Ozone River, but he's not a competition. I washed up Robbie.
Speaker 5:Anderson.
Speaker 1:It's chosen.
Speaker 5:It's chosen. Chosen, anderson.
Speaker 3:Like there's nobody there and yeah, miami like, and I'm going to keep a jet. I'm going to try to adjust these every week on mine just to kind of keep it going.
Speaker 5:As a pod. We are way high on Calvin Ridley and maybe I'm the one driving that, but no, I like that Did you see?
Speaker 4:that report came out, that like they, that Lawrence was just like, said that cover like these.
Speaker 5:Awesome yeah, he's like the best wide receiver he's ever like PFF, has a Calvin Ridley at 17 ESPN is in the 30s, the high 20s.
Speaker 4:That's in the Wow, that's yeah.
Speaker 3:Do you see that thing? That CBS sport? You said that Jordan. Yeah, cbs sport, that. What's Justin so like on ESPN, justin Jefferson's on averaging being the number one receiver taken off boards.
Speaker 5:And let me see if I can find that to me. I sent it in here last night.
Speaker 4:Like I don't even. That doesn't even make sense.
Speaker 5:So his current ADP on ESPN is one one underdog. It's one one FFPC, one one CBS sports pick 32 overall. Which makes zero sin 27 picks after Joe Burrow, 17 picks after Alexander Madison, eight picks after John Jay Swift, five picks after Jared Goff, two picks after the Eagles defense and one pick after Christian Watson.
Speaker 3:I'm honestly curious how many people are drafting on CBS right now. There's probably not a lot and they're probably all under the age of like 13. No but no, the thing is like no, that you, it's a bunch of just the boomers on CBS.
Speaker 4:I know, but that has to be like less than like a hundred people playing right.
Speaker 3:I would love to see the numbers of how many like, even if that is the number of a thousand people playing CBS sports.
Speaker 5:That is insane, I just love that you'll see BS sports fancy football Links for serious players.
Speaker 4:There's no way they like someone is like taking care of that Like they gotta have, they gotta have bots or something like that makes.
Speaker 3:That makes no sense.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if someone's like we should totally, you know, prank CBS.
Speaker 4:Oh and they're just a bunch of like weird. They know he like has some like weird, like knee injury that we don't know about.
Speaker 5:No but, what it's worth. I think that tweet was deleted.
Speaker 3:Oh, was it deleted, so maybe it's not real.
Speaker 5:Maybe it's not real. Tweet was deleted.
Speaker 4:It's probably not real. So some guy just it's got.
Speaker 5:Barrett, though I mean Scott Barrett is the one who tweeted it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so he must have got some. Yeah, so someone must have fed him some fake information. Or CBS said like hey, take this down.
Speaker 5:Take that. I think that's what happened is CBS sports.
Speaker 3:They might have said something like hey, we've had this many drafts and they've all been auto draft or something.
Speaker 1:I mean. Even the auto draft, though, is your algorithm that off.
Speaker 3:Well, if someone just moved them back because they didn't, it doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1:It is. Yes, you're trying to fit a. I bet CBS told me.
Speaker 4:Someone did thousands of mock drafts just to make CBS look bad. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:It wouldn't be as hard as you think probably.
Speaker 4:No.
Speaker 3:He just said like, hey, I'm going to make, I'm going to make 10 fantasy leagues every day and I'm going to put Justin Jefferson at number 30 and all of them like, and I'm going to run every team.
Speaker 1:Yeah, jordan can teach a class and do that just at lunchtime.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying, like I would love it if Jordan said that was me.
Speaker 1:If you actually did that with like on your first day of school at class you're like, hey, we're going to do a couple of mock drafts. Everybody put Justin Jefferson at number 30. Do you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2:We actually should have done that.
Speaker 3:Come on, Jordan Use your head, you guys trying to help my draft out tonight. What?
Speaker 5:are we at?
Speaker 3:So we're at.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I need to count the really thing, though. We're pretty high on him. I think Gary Wilson of ordinary St St Maybe.
Speaker 3:I'm too high on CD lamb Jordan, maybe that's my problem. Maybe I have seven, like I don't like who do you think so maybe I should put Tyree kill in front of?
Speaker 5:I'm lower on digs than you guys. That's where the differences, what's?
Speaker 1:wild Jordan is I don't think you had a monra. Oh, you did. You had a monrat 17, but you were not in a monra believer last year. I don't think can I get your backing on that trend?
Speaker 3:I felt like he was. I know he wasn't a Hawkinson believer. I don't remember that. I feel like a monra wasn't a huge. I'm not a gov.
Speaker 5:I wasn't a gov believer.
Speaker 2:You were a gov believer. You're right, you're right.
Speaker 1:I thought that I wasn't a monra believer. I wasn't a gov.
Speaker 5:So I stick to what I mean and gov has proved me wrong and now I feel very comfortable with putting him in the top 10. Yeah, cause I think gov is like the Derek Harvey now, where not you're probably not winning a super bowl with those guys at quarterback, but for fantasy purposes it doesn't really matter and I don't mind them. I don't mind them as fantasy quarterbacks, you know, or getting the job done, I have some decent amount of golf and a golf and best ball, I think.
Speaker 1:Nice. All right, let's, let's shut down the club here with a five through one. Uh, go ahead.
Speaker 3:Why do you always say shut down the club, that's your new thing? Uh, let's go.
Speaker 1:I think you sent the last couple of pods. It's because what is that? Uh, man Jordan brought up the movie a while ago. Uh, tuck, everlasting no big mama's house. I think it is the guys like I'm about to shut down the club and he like tries to break dance and he does a front flip and like messes up his back and I just always thought that was funny as a kid. I think most people find some humor.
Speaker 3:Give me your rankings please.
Speaker 4:Okay. Shut down the club my five through one AJ Brown at five uh Stefan Diggs at four, cooper cup at three uh Jamar chase at two and Justin Jefferson at one.
Speaker 3:I have a AJ Brown at five, cooper cup at four, stefan Diggs at three, jamar chase at two and Justin Jefferson at one.
Speaker 5:Yeah, aj Brown at five, tyree kill at four, cooper cup at three, jamar chase at two, justin Jefferson at one, and honestly I think Jefferson chase cup or the top three. If I had to rank I know I'd go Jefferson chase CMC Cooper cup. That'd be my entire kill. That'd be my top five right there Overall.
Speaker 3:You have Cooper cup, so you think cups going to come back pretty strong. You're confident in that.
Speaker 5:Yeah, and she's the type of a player he is. It lends itself. You know he doesn't need Good coach. Good coach she's going to be. We know that he's going to get the ball a ton right Like he finished it, Guys.
Speaker 4:he hardly played and he had 75 receptions for 812 yards and six touchdowns.
Speaker 1:Just turned 30. And he was under taught, and he was taught and he was 24 last year.
Speaker 4:Yeah, 24.
Speaker 1:He tears.
Speaker 5:What did he do? He tore his ACL last year. I think so. We have confirmation on that.
Speaker 4:He guys, he played nine games and had 75 catches. That's about 98 targets he got hurt in week he had almost.
Speaker 5:He was on pace for over 200 targets On pace, over 150 catches.
Speaker 1:I'm seeing it was an ankle injury.
Speaker 4:He was on. He was on pace to beat his receptions from the year before and the targets and he had 1900 yards. Last year he was 63 yards from 2000 yards.
Speaker 5:I haven't been some dinosaur. He was on and he was on pace for 15, that makes 1500 yards. So I mean he was on pace for a crazy good year again.
Speaker 3:They just can't stop him. So you aren't. You aren't big on digs. You just think that drama is going to carry over.
Speaker 5:No, it's just, it's just it's more like I think this is fine and I'm taking AJ Brown Tyra Kilkoober cup to March H Cheson Jefferson over him.
Speaker 3:Cause he used to be one of the like. You were like the original, like digs truth or I remember like you were really high on you were like I like digs. But there's also.
Speaker 5:just nothing wrong, it's just sometimes you got to be the sixth out of the six you know, like AJ Brown, great offense. Jaylen Hertz, Tyra Kil again the competition there is. Just there's nothing there. Cooper cup kind of a similar thing, it's the thing on Cooper cup. And then Joe March H, justin Jefferson, top two wide receivers in football. Like both with Joe March H says Joe Burrow Jefferson just on another level and digs is a little bit in my mind. He seems a little bit older than all these guys. I don't know if that's a hundred percent true.
Speaker 3:Guess age is? He's 29, so he's a little bit younger in Cooper cup?
Speaker 5:Yeah, just a little. Aj Brown and Tyree kill so Tyree kills 29 also.
Speaker 4:Okay so.
Speaker 5:And then, just on offense with you know, let me look at the bills. It seems like they're just a little bit more Competition. You got Gabe Davis, you got two tight ends with Dawson Knox and Kinkade with a pass catching running back in James Cook, and I think they they run a little bit of two tight end sets here.
Speaker 3:I'm, just I'm.
Speaker 5:They have Cleo Shakir, who I think ends up taking over for Trent Scherfield. There I'm nitpicking here train I'm trying to find you know you know you're good. It's like I don't know. I just I feel more comfortable with those five guys over digs. But yes, what it shocked me of digs is the top five receiver.
Speaker 3:I don't think any of these guys would shock me if they were like top two.
Speaker 5:Honestly, it would shock me if it wasn't Jefferson. As long as they both Jamar Chase was, he got hurt.
Speaker 3:He was hurt.
Speaker 5:I mean, how many games did he play last year? Let's see if I can find that, because as long as they're healthy, I have a hard time believing it's not Jefferson Chase one, two.
Speaker 3:I had Chase on a couple teams and he was. He missed, I think, like three or four games.
Speaker 5:Let's see Chase. He played 12 games, so like I Just have a hard time believing if those guys don't stay healthy, it's not Jefferson, chase, one, two, but then yeah, cooper Cup, tyra, kill a J Brown digs. They could be in any order and it wouldn't surprise me.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I know, I agree.
Speaker 5:I mean like I just the Vikings are gonna throw the ball 50 to 60 times a game.
Speaker 3:Like I feel like digs, like we'll finish. Like three is kind of like where I just really expect him. Like three or four is kind of where I just expect I would eat. You're right, I would be shocked if he finished higher than three.
Speaker 5:It's just gonna be hard for two guys, as long as they stay healthy and bad weather.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there's the weather there too.
Speaker 3:Jefferson Vikings are a dome right, which helps Jefferson a lot and just looking like some of the underdog drafts, which we'll do one of those again soon. We got our tight ends episode coming in next. Maybe we'll do it underdog episode with that too. That should be shorter.
Speaker 4:Yeah, the tight ends, not long and Cooper cups in a dome that helps Cooper cup a little bit.
Speaker 1:He's also in Southern California, so I don't same with him.
Speaker 5:Yeah, but the dome makes a little bit difference with the what. Just because there's no wind, right, there's no wind factor. So Miami's not a dome, is it?
Speaker 3:that's not outside open hard rock. Is it open? It's kind of weird. I think it's open weather.
Speaker 5:Miami's like pretty decent, like all the time Well didn't you have it during the division where they go Up north quite a bit, though that's true. So yeah, uh, cowboys is a dome, right track. Cowboys is a dome. The lines, the dome which helps the same brown the New York stadiums a dome or no?
Speaker 3:No, I knew it's not. I don't think, because remember when they played the Super Bowl there the Seahawks Broncos and it was like they were thinking it was gonna snow. Oh yeah, oh yeah. I Think that now that we've turned into a weather Channel, pod weather channel.
Speaker 1:Hey.
Speaker 5:I was. The weather matters in football, it doesn't know and the dome.
Speaker 4:The domes make a big difference matters for players like Stefan digs. Yeah, for sure, it's the biggest one, I guess the biggest one that stands out.
Speaker 1:Cincinnati is not, though, right. Do we already say that it's not a dome?
Speaker 5:Yeah, it's not. Their weather is not as bad as Buffalo, though.
Speaker 3:Buffalo gets gross. Remember that Monday night football game with the Patriots when Mac Jones threw like one pass the whole game.
Speaker 1:I was wearing like a wetsuit. Yeah, yeah, I think that wraps it up, though, unless there's anything, do you? Want to, anyone will say anything else here on the wide receiver rankings.
Speaker 3:I'm sorry I don't have JS in in here. I'll fix that, or I like offer some sort of I have a la vie, so I'm yeah, the alavi one might be the worst yeah that was my bad so
Speaker 1:he's going on a trip. You gotta give him a little break.
Speaker 4:I also did this a while ago. It's the first one to complete all the rankings, so yeah.
Speaker 1:You do it before the draft, all right, we would want to do move some divas here.
Speaker 3:We got a dynasty draft coming up soon, guys. That'll be fun, that'll be good, good fun getting together.
Speaker 1:here we got to talk about some apps for that you got to talk about.
Speaker 3:Yeah, absolutely. I Need to get my diva list here Jordan, do you have a diva? And Phil, you know.
Speaker 5:I don't really. I'm trying to think of one. Nothing's really like come to mind. I don't want to.
Speaker 3:I thought you had something come up again. You can at least touch on that again. You sent the picture the guy who's back at the gym.
Speaker 5:Oh yeah, Back at the gym with the guys back fan guys back. You know I luckily he was a, he was a finished or he was finished using the fan on the treadmill. By the time I was ready to use the treadmill but he had. He had the fan literally on the treadmill again.
Speaker 1:I feel like Seth's divas usually have to do with driving and your divas usually have to do with gym issues.
Speaker 5:Well, tell you goes to Jim, and who doesn't go to Jim?
Speaker 1:my Jim is the open-air baby. I'm a runner.
Speaker 3:You got a bad back, phil.
Speaker 1:I was gonna say that's part of my diva. Do you want me to go in my diva? It's really not great, but my thing is like kind of like the healthcare system and I'm not saying the healthcare system as a whole, I'm saying like I call the place, I called a chiropractic office. Right, I'm not gonna say the name, I don't want to go bad on them. All right, I called a chiropractic office. You just said the whole health system.
Speaker 3:We're talking about a chiropractor yeah, not the.
Speaker 4:Chiropractor is even part of the healthcare system.
Speaker 1:It is it's, if it's covered by insurance. I think it's part of the healthcare system. So I called. Basically, what I'm saying is I'm in pain. I'm in terrible pain. I called this office and I said, hey, I'd really like to get in for appointment. They only take I've never been there before, they only take new patients on like X number of days a week and it's like a small window of time where new patients have to. Basically, I don't know if they're like trying to whip new patients into shape and just being like no, you, you play by our rules.
Speaker 3:You have to come in when we have to do different stuff because they want to x-ray you and all that stuff.
Speaker 1:I get it, I totally get that. But just like, if I'm in pain, just get me in. You know what I'm saying. Like if I'm a new patient at a dentist's office and my tooth is like breaking off, are you gonna make me wait to the hours that they're?
Speaker 4:taking.
Speaker 3:Oh, I think, how much pain are you in that you can't make it fit? You're obviously not in that much pain.
Speaker 1:It's not great, that's all I'm saying. Oh.
Speaker 4:I. I think that's why a hospital is a thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, it's the urgent care.
Speaker 4:I'm not gonna go to urgent care, she's gonna urgent care and just be like, just Shove your elbow in my back and just massage it around?
Speaker 1:Yeah, so do you. Are you a chiropractor guy or not?
Speaker 4:really, I mean, I just, I don't know, I'd kind of just tough it out he's too young.
Speaker 3:He's the youngest guy in the pod by a lot like how old are you?
Speaker 4:I've been going to a chiropractor I also don't hurt my back by sitting in a chair.
Speaker 1:You also said you couldn't breathe after you ran a six-minute mile the other day.
Speaker 3:You can do a six-minute mile, as you can hardly walk.
Speaker 1:As soon as my back is better, I will run a six-minute mile like what did you run in this 15 or in the six?
Speaker 2:minute mark, so I'll do 614.
Speaker 1:As soon as my back is better, I will run a 614.
Speaker 3:Better money, better money.
Speaker 1:I'll do 20 bucks. I'm not doing money. I Don't know what my back's gonna be. I don't have to use as my copay.
Speaker 4:Here's. Here's Phil Phil's word of advice don't bet on yourself. My word of advice, bet on yourself, exactly.
Speaker 1:I'm not gonna buy boo drop.
Speaker 4:I should be better too. You know I should be better, is it mean? Phil ran it at the same time and I just torched him.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that would happen in your wildest journey.
Speaker 3:Okay, seth is like six feet tall. You're like what five? His stride is better. You are, you're absolutely wrong.
Speaker 1:If you look at the height and build of like fast, like like mile runners or even marathon runners or a half marathon, whatever you want to call it, they're basically my shape.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you look like.
Speaker 3:I think you mixed up with you saying bull all the time, not as fat you.
Speaker 1:You saying both sprints you, dummy he. They're around like five, eight ish and they're usually around 35.
Speaker 5:They're also usually about 50 pounds lighter than you are. Yeah.
Speaker 1:I said the weight thing already. I already said the weight thing.
Speaker 5:Well, the weight thing matters. You can't just overlook that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's what I said. I'm a fast, I'm a fast twitch athlete. You're over your complaint. I was saying you're running indoors on a, on a treadmill and this guy's right a peloton.
Speaker 4:Phil is right. The average height of a long distance runner is about five, eight, but they also.
Speaker 3:Okay, phil Farland, one time. I'm sorry they probably.
Speaker 4:I mean they probably weigh like 30 pounds less than me. They probably weigh like they're probably five, eight, 150 or less.
Speaker 1:Maybe even like 125 130. They're very there's. They're like jockeys. They might as well be horse jockeys, like they're about the same size. Anyhow, all that to say is I really will race you.
Speaker 4:My race, you don't you don't want yo, yo, yeah, my race.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we're gonna do the mile race. As soon as my back is better and I'm gonna.
Speaker 5:I must say you six, four, I think I can get in. The six is I think I break seven minutes, that's for sure and I'd call that delusion, but no way you are faster than stiff on a mile. Crazier things, true, but that's true, I'm running with you guys.
Speaker 3:All right, well, I'll be the concession stand selling tickets for the whole town to come watch this.
Speaker 2:My.
Speaker 5:Diva, the way you hold on to the pinnacle.
Speaker 1:Oh, I'm saying is like if you have someone who is in like legitimate pain.
Speaker 3:The lady was like yeah, which is not you. Yes, you would have went no, if you're in legitimate pain, I had work.
Speaker 1:I had work I had. I had responsibilities that I need to take care of. I had work that I need to take care. So all I'm saying is I'm you want to talk about grit? That's your boy right here, like I am you are the opposite. Wait, you're complaining about a fan on a treadmill, jordan.
Speaker 5:We know I can't use the treadmill because someone else is a fan on the treadmill.
Speaker 1:Say that again real quick and listen to yourself talk. You can't use a treadmill because someone else is using a fan on it. The guy put the fan on the treadmill and uses it, but there's multiple treadmills. It's the one that I like, so you can't use any other treadmill because you only like that one.
Speaker 5:Well, okay, in fairness, there was like four and they're all being used and the guy has the one that's on it.
Speaker 3:There's an open treadmill being used to hold the fan filled. And a gym that's packed full of people.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know. So the thing about me. I would kindly say, sir, I need you to take this fan off.
Speaker 4:I'm going to utilize it before, and I think that what I do.
Speaker 5:is you cool about it? No, and the chiropractor really yeah, he gave me a bunch of crap, wow.
Speaker 1:So you just cow that was like a year and a half ago Take pictures of behind his back, all right, anyhow, just give me into the office I've been paying. The lady on the line was nice. She's like, hey, use some ice. And I'm like I really need to get into this.
Speaker 5:Take some Advil.
Speaker 4:She's like use some ice. I'm out of the or go to the freaking hospital.
Speaker 1:I can't take Advil. I'm allergic to ibuprofen.
Speaker 4:Well, maybe you should take some, anyways A little.
Speaker 1:Anyhow, I'm going to a chiropractor tomorrow. We'll see how it goes. Pod update in two weeks. Unfortunately, we're a little bit too far out. I'm hoping that all this goes down and I'll be able to race, or when you get back, seth, I can raise you as soon as I get back.
Speaker 3:No, when, when you will race you after his red eye and flip.
Speaker 1:Guys, I think you're under. Trin doesn't know how running works.
Speaker 3:That's the problem, I've seen you run.
Speaker 1:I've seen you run, yeah lightly. That's my break If I'm running like just enjoying it.
Speaker 3:we have a podcast, we've had Okay, that's, that's fair. I haven't seen your sprint. No, I think.
Speaker 4:Phil. I think Phil for what it's worth. I think Phil will be able to keep up with me on my pace for like the first two laps and then, like I think he's going to get gassed. I think that's probably the.
Speaker 1:I think I think Phil's going to have to know my limitations, but I'm going to talk Like big stuff until we get to the starting line.
Speaker 3:You okay, phil. You have complained about your back hurting because of the chair You've also complained about you know you couldn't do a podcast because you rolled an ankle. If you try to tip at six 30 mile, you might die Guys your doctor might tell you like hey, do not do this.
Speaker 1:Like, like I ran a 5k. I ran a 5k and my average time was 720. That's moving.
Speaker 3:That is. Was that five years ago? Wait, what's a what's a 5k?
Speaker 4:So I ran three three miles, three miles 3.3 and 3.1.
Speaker 1:Five. K is 3.1 miles, so I ran three miles in my average time. It was so. The problem was is my first two miles I was just cooking, and then my third mile. I was like I threw up on the side of the trail because I was like running too fast and so that killed me. So like that, and that was me in the same shape that I'm in. Like when, when, how many?
Speaker 3:years ago was this. How long is it?
Speaker 1:Was this If it's a daughter who's five was a newborn.
Speaker 2:No shot, no shot.
Speaker 4:You were not in the same gym you were now, then you were then no way.
Speaker 3:Your back was totally different back then.
Speaker 1:At my knees and your freaking age.
Speaker 2:Now that you were.
Speaker 1:I'm not going to be fast for my age now If I was able to do it in my age group is what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:Yeah, anyhow, you got a, you got a, you know, aarp card.
Speaker 1:I'm going to talk, I'm going to talk big stuff until we get to the line, and then I will cook and the promise set.
Speaker 3:We have to do it. All the other pretendies hurt.
Speaker 4:No, no, we have to do it. We have to try to step on my shoelace.
Speaker 1:We have to do it at like an undisclosed location, like we have to plot it out. I'm not doing it at this. A local high school, a Trent out there chirping us the entire time.
Speaker 4:Exactly where it's happening.
Speaker 1:This needs to be like this needs to be like a Sylvester Stallone.
Speaker 3:Rocky Don't agree to his terms. He's going to take you to like some disc field or something that he's been training in.
Speaker 1:This is going to be like Apollo Where's Rocky Rocks in?
Speaker 4:and of gravity helps. Yeah, this needs to be like a rocky on the beach racing.
Speaker 3:No, no, phil's, be like. It has to be a straight line, okay.
Speaker 1:Hold on, hold on, so set. So, trent, your only bet is that I'm going to lose this set. That's fine, but where do you put me in time, like, where would you put my?
Speaker 3:time. I'm not shocked me if you ran a seven 10 mile All right, I can respect that. That's shocked, but you understand those seven, 10 and six, 15.
Speaker 4:There's a very big difference in terms of a race. That is a smoke yeah.
Speaker 3:That's like the difference between like first place and last place in a race.
Speaker 1:You guys are going to be. You guys are going to be woefully shocked. Man, I just like, if I can even do this just so I can destroy Phil.
Speaker 4:But I feel like Phil's just doing this, just the talk, and then like we're going to do it and I'm going to run hard and I'm going to feel terrible after and Phil's going to be like eight minutes.
Speaker 1:Like man, I'm proud of myself listening to a podcast. My PR he's just like I got a brand new eight minute mile here I will say that I these, I mean these tree trunks hanging off my legs are, I mean they're they move baby. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 3:Hey, we need to. We need to shut the club down. I don't think I need to do a diva.
Speaker 1:The problem is my diva is okay. When are we doing this? Let's like, let's so. Should we put a date on this?
Speaker 3:No, we're putting a date on this, no, cause we don't know when your back's going to get good. All right, we're doing it. No, no, no, no, you might not be healthy for your back could be bad for ever, Phil.
Speaker 1:No, I think what we do is we aim for. We aim for the end of August.
Speaker 4:Wait, are you trying to train now?
Speaker 3:No, no, no, no, my back.
Speaker 2:He's trying to train. He's trying to train.
Speaker 4:No, how about we? We do. We do weekly updates when your back is good and then, as soon as you say your back's fine, then we do it days after you say your back's fine cause. I'm not letting you train, you're gonna train for six weeks You're gonna train, that I'm gonna train and then I'm gonna run a 530 and you will never do it.
Speaker 1:I don't think you can touch a 530.
Speaker 4:But if I train till the end of August. I could run a 530 for sure. The end of August, that is like six weeks, so that should be your goal.
Speaker 1:That should be your goal 530. Let's go, end of August, you run a 530 and me run a 630.
Speaker 3:We're not doing a most improved competition.
Speaker 1:Like. This is a participation journey we are we are shutting.
Speaker 3:We are shutting the club down.
Speaker 1:Are you gonna give your diva or no?
Speaker 3:I don't think there's time. I don't have anything like super good that can top anything that's been said here, right? Yeah, like there's been some outlandish things said just now, so I'm gonna I'm gonna shut the club down.
Speaker 1:We're probably gonna have people who offered to join in on this just for what it's for. Yes, I think so. That's why I'm gonna sell tickets.
Speaker 3:So, anyways, all right guys. Hey, thank you for tuning in. We will see you next time and, as always, take care.
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