What to do with Cooper Kupp? Season Long Under Dog Plays
The wait is over! Football season is back, and so are your favorite fantasy football enthusiasts: Trent, Seth, and Jordan. In this exciting season kickoff episode, the trio gathers to dissect the latest buzz surrounding NFL star Cooper Kupp. Is there cause for concern when drafting this talented wide receiver? Our hosts dive into his recent news and weigh the pros and cons.
But that's just the beginning. As the NFL season kicks off, Trent, Seth, and Jordan are armed with their expert insights and underdog plays for your season-long fantasy football adventures. They break down their top picks, from Patrick Mahomes' projected passing yards to Mark Andrews' potential touchdown catches and much more. Whether you're a seasoned fantasy football pro or a rookie looking to gain an edge, this episode is packed with valuable strategies, insider tips, and lively discussions.
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Speaker 3:What is up, my dudes? This is Trent with the Fantasy Football Dudes podcast. It is officially week one. Is that what we could say? Is that correct?
Speaker 4:Week one, baby, let's go. It's week one and Phil is not here.
Speaker 3:Phil is not here. No dedication. We're not gonna say what he's doing or why he's not here.
Speaker 4:He's on vacation.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I guess, I guess that's the right word. That's the right word.
Speaker 4:At least he's on vacation from everything.
Speaker 3:Yeah from life. Yeah, hasn't answered the group text. Maybe he's done. Maybe he's taking a permanent vacation from the podcast.
Speaker 4:Maybe quit permanent vacation.
Speaker 3:So it's Trent Jordan and Sam.
Speaker 4:We actually made him take a break. He's kidding. Views go up when he's not here.
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Speaker 3:TFF dudes, give us a like, give us a sub Football's back. Week one here. We will be coming to you twice a week. We will have drafts. I think we're gonna do drafts every other week During the season. I figure out the right day to have those come out. We are gonna do a live stream on Thursday During the football game. We'll be starting at kickoff, so that will be. You know Phil. Hopefully he'll be back for that I'm not sure. So we'll see you guys Thursday morning, then we'll see you on the live stream Thursday night. But you guys have a good weekend. Seth, you've been a Jordan. You had a nice little weekend. You know college football's back. You had some nice plays right.
Speaker 2:Jordan won us some money and everyone else who tailed it.
Speaker 4:Yeah, we did put one of those on the old Graham right Trent. Yeah yeah, good little three pick on sleeper yesterday. Yeah, it was a good weekend, first weekend of college football, like actual week one, so it was fun. Watched a lot of football yesterday, watched a lot of football, watched some UFC and it was we're good to go Week one of college football is kind of a downer almost. I don't know. For me like, yes, the games aren't great, but there was some decent games, like there were some good games.
Speaker 3:I really liked the Fresno State Purdue game. The game was awesome.
Speaker 4:The TCU Colorado game was awesome. Tcu Colorado game I've been a game of the week.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I feel like after that, though there wasn't a, there's a good one tonight. You know we're recording. Sunday night there's a Florida State LSU.
Speaker 4:Florida State LSU, that'll be a good one. Oh, I feel like there was one game in the afternoon window that wasn't horrible. What was I watching? I was watching the Texas game was kind of a blowout. There was one game that I watched in the afternoon window that I can't.
Speaker 3:It's just, it's a little bit of a tease, you know, like it gives you what you want, but it's not completely everything you want with college football, like there's a lot of those slates for all the games and stuff.
Speaker 4:Oh, the Washington game was good for a little bit and Washington put them on them at the end, it's a little different for me, though. I have so much like action, usually on Saturdays, so like if the action I have is going good, then it's usually entertaining, like it's more entertaining because I'm just watching what I have, you know yeah and we did that on sleeper.
Speaker 3:So if you're not on sleeper yet, they have college football in-game plays. You can do all kinds of fun stuff. If you have interdudes 100, they will match up to $100, guys, it really helps us out and help you out. You know, follow us on Instagram and Twitter at TFFDudes. We'll just be sharing some plays on there for football, so go ahead and check that out. Today's episode actually, Jordan, we're going to be doing our season-long underdog plays. Is that correct?
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:So underdog, another sponsor for us. But yeah, so I don't. Our Vikings won Friday Night Football game, gave a little beat down, you know, to their rivals Dinuba. That was fun. We all sat together there and Fresno State won. And now we got NFL kicking off in Phil's Lions versus Jordan's Chiefs Thursday night. So that'll be a lot of fun.
Speaker 4:Don't say they're my.
Speaker 2:Chiefs. One of them will be crying.
Speaker 4:Well, the Jaguars are good. Now we can't call them my Chiefs anymore.
Speaker 3:Jordan's going to totally flip on his fandom with the Jags. I feel like this year, like now, it's like hey.
Speaker 2:Jags are good. He's a Jag, he's like man. I love the Jags. He's going to say something to Hayden. He's got Patrick Mahomes. Here's the problem, guys.
Speaker 4:When the Jaguars are bad. Mahomes' support got me through, you know. It made the NFL season fun.
Speaker 3:Now the Jaguars are good, we're rivals.
Speaker 4:Now we got to beat the Chiefs yeah.
Speaker 2:No, I understand. I wonder what Trent's been doing with the Cowboys forever.
Speaker 3:That's how I was when I was like 12, and then it just kind of stuck with me. I was like you know what I have? These guys I like and all this stuff and that's why I have like 19 favorite college football teams.
Speaker 4:It turns out with you know fancy Mahomes and you know it's just I don't know.
Speaker 2:When guys win you money or when you like fantasy football leagues, you end up just being like a fan of them.
Speaker 3:And here's the thing I love the Dallas Cowboys, but what have they ever done for me? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Like.
Speaker 3:Mahomes has done stuff for you, Jordan.
Speaker 4:So I understand why you're such a big fan of the Chiefs, so I don't know, but I don't know what the Jets and Lions did for Phil.
Speaker 3:I don't know what they did, but we have a lot of Lions listeners so I'm hoping the Lions are good. I actually care about my listeners. You know Like I want them to be happy.
Speaker 2:I want them to have success If they're happy.
Speaker 3:we're happy, exactly, and what makes us happy is when you share this pod with a friend. Remember, don't be rude, share the dudes. So, jordan, we've been going for about four minutes. It feels like there's like four more minutes of like wasted. You know space we normally have right here, but you know we can just move along Our host is not here.
Speaker 4:We won't get five minutes of nonsense.
Speaker 3:It won't get five minutes of nonsense.
Speaker 4:Him talking about how, like the gas station, didn't have this.
Speaker 2:Or him being a rancher.
Speaker 3:There's a lot of stuff, so I guess we can jump right into it. I don't want to make the pod too quick. I'd like to get it at that 45 minutes to an hour mark, but we will be coming back to you guys.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I mean, I think just in general, we can just say the next three and a half months, the first pod of the week it released on Mondays, right, trent? Mm-hmm yeah, that Sunday night recap one that we record on Sunday nights. Monday night release will generally be shorter, mm-hmm yeah. And then we'll have the big preview pod on Wednesday. Come out Thursdays. We record on Wednesdays and so that's the big.
Speaker 3:I'd like to do an underdog draft for each week between us four or two. I think that might be a cool way to close the pods out, so I think that's a good idea we're going to try to get through and we'll try to keep those Thursday pods Like.
Speaker 4:I think we just need to do a good job of getting through the games quickly and and.
Speaker 3:But yeah, Phil should be doing too much during the week that he has to recap.
Speaker 4:Yes, that will be good, so that'll be good.
Speaker 3:We got the Northwestern game on right now. And who are they playing? Wreckers.
Speaker 4:Wreckers. We're going to switch this thing over to Oregon State here quickly.
Speaker 3:Jordan, and so YouTube TV. It has the multi-view cam, so you actually could put them both on for people who only have one TV In their house.
Speaker 4:Yeah, Can we talk about that real quick? That's kind of a diva the week you called me a diva. I don't I don't get it.
Speaker 3:Jordan, you know there's a lot of guys out there that, like, their friends moved to different states, stuff like that. You know what I'm saying? What is that? But but so like. So what I'm saying is like if your friend moves to a different state and you're like, hey, you want to come watch, you know the Seahawks game, but they live in a different state, they can't watch. Jordan has his friends, you know, within five minutes of his house, oh, and he doesn't come watch because there's only one TV in the living room.
Speaker 4:Okay, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:Like it's Saturdays are for the dude Seth True, so he's watching at his house with four TVs on, rather than coming and watching one here. Here, Jordan, let me show you a little trick here, you know, but uh, In fairness Trent, you text us at.
Speaker 4:The game started at nine. You texted at eight, 55. Yeah, do you want to come over? I'm sitting on the couch having him showered yet and you want me to come over to your house and I can watch two games and the fights all at once in my own living room. Okay, fine, true, I mean but the multi view is nice that and your TV is big enough to where it does.
Speaker 3:It does get it. It might only be available on Saturdays because I'm not seeing it right now, but I did have it yesterday, that YouTube multi view. Oh yeah, I just had it. Oh, you just had it. Oh, because it's back here, huh.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:So, yeah, well, I'm learning how to use my television right now. We're talking about that.
Speaker 4:But the game hasn't started yet and that game is over, so that's why it's not working. That's why it's on.
Speaker 3:There, it is right. There Boom goes the dynamite. So we got two TVs on here.
Speaker 4:But oh yeah, no, no, but no that there was less.
Speaker 3:You need to give more context to that, phil if Phil would have been in a different state, I know 100% he would have been here.
Speaker 4:He probably would have brought donuts. He probably would have brought wings, like he's such a good walk over in his pajamas from his house to here.
Speaker 3:It's usually what he does for the pod, so I'm sure he does on a Saturday morning. But yeah, so that that's my diva the week. You guys can do your divas later. My diva the week is guys that you know just can't leave their own house to hang out with. You know some buddies I figured you were on a road trip, seth, you were. You were a road dog in yesterday.
Speaker 2:No, I hadn't. I hadn't left yet, but I was watching. My child Could have brought your child. My wife and my oldest daughter went to a birthday party and so I just kept my daughter and she was sleeping, so I was not going to leave.
Speaker 3:Well, a cool text back would have been nice. Also Seth Like, hey, not gonna make me.
Speaker 2:I'm pretty sure I said I'm not coming.
Speaker 4:I think he emphasized my text.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I had my computer open and I was watching it on my TV. So the Fresno State game and Colorado game man, those were fun yeah.
Speaker 3:For everybody listening. You know this is coming out on Labor Day, so happy Labor Day. You know, maybe a lot of you don't have work when this comes out. You can still listen, though. What's your guys's take on Cooper Cup right now? Like, can you drag, like where, if there's a lot of drafts that don't happen till Labor Day or Sunday night, I'm drafting tomorrow. Yeah, so where? Like where should Cooper Cup go? Like how many weeks is he going to miss?
Speaker 4:So I just hard, because it's just so much unknown. There's zero clarity, which makes it difficult right now. I had a buddy text me.
Speaker 3:They aren't going to rush him back.
Speaker 4:Yeah, like do I trade Cooper Cup? Like do, and I was like it was like for like Devonta Smith and Isaiah Pacheco, and I'm just like here's the issue with trading Cooper Cup right now the season started, you're going to get nothing compared to where you the value from where you drafted him. So it just makes it difficult because, like what do you? I just, I don't know Like I draft the Cooper cup and the first round on one of my main leagues I'm holding onto them Like there's no point in and then just, even if he's out, I doesn't the the feeling I get. It's not a long-term injury, maybe he's out the first month, but if you draft it okay, maybe you can get through that first month and be okay when Cooper cup comes back.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the IR spot spot helps, but what is it? Matthew Berry always says you don't win your league in the first round. You can lose it though.
Speaker 4:Like that could potentially be a pit, but is one month going to lose? Like it just depends how you draft.
Speaker 2:How the rest of your team is like. I drafted Cooper cup eighth overall, but I also picked up Van Jefferson as soon as I heard about it. So I'm going to play Van Jefferson and see how it goes. Um, but I mean, if you're looking at the news, he was in Minnesota today, on or on Saturday, met with a specialist Um, sean McVeigh's, describing it as day to day but we all know they kind of cherry pick with those comments but he's saying he's likely going to miss week one, which could mean more Um. But I mean it's like Jordan sing. I think it's hard to tell right now. I don't think you get rid of him and I think you just kind of ride you just ride it out, they're not even ruling him out for week one. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:He's likely to miss week one, but we don't know, you might not even get an IR spot for the guy. No, he might, he will eventually.
Speaker 2:But Sunday If he's out, yeah, but with questionable no, you're not going to get it.
Speaker 4:It's a 125 game, so but I think that if he's not going to play, they're going to rule him out Thursday or Fridays, without imagining. But it's like in this league that have cup, I have Devonta Smith, christian Watson, terry McClour and George Pickens as my receivers. Like I think I'm okay, like I don't need to trade.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you can trade cup there Like you might need to wait, Like if you take cup early you might need to wait and wait on those running backs longer than you normally would.
Speaker 4:So now though, like now going forward, if you're drafting, like tomorrow, I think, honestly, I think you can actually get value on Cooper cut Maybe, like because you can get them late my guess is he's going to get. He's going to fall out of the second round.
Speaker 3:You think he'll go all the way to the second round.
Speaker 4:So I saw someone in a I think it was on Twitter someone puts the screenshot of a best ball they had done and actually it was on underdog, but it was. They had CMC and Cooper cup. Cooper cup fell all the way back on the second round that far, and that's really good. No matter honestly, no matter what happens, I think that's really good value. Oh, absolutely Like second round first round.
Speaker 3:It's a harder pill.
Speaker 2:It's a harder pill to swallow in the first round.
Speaker 1:Anywhere in the second round.
Speaker 3:I'm totally. I'd be shocked to see him fall more than that.
Speaker 4:He's not going to miss knock on some wood here, but he's not going to have a.
Speaker 3:I wish Phil was here to tell you it was drywall, but I think there's wood somewhere in there there's wood.
Speaker 4:I don't think he's going to miss the whole, the whole season, Right Like I. That doesn't. That's not the vibe I'm getting. The vibe I'm getting is he pulls his hamstring. He pulled again. They're trying to figure out what the issue is.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Hamstring issues, though, are just stuff that, like, you hate it when you get those in the beginning, in middle of the season, cause it's just like. When do you heal? Cause it's just rest, that's all it takes, like it's pretty simple rest. I don't know.
Speaker 4:I think what's the likely scenarios? He's going to miss the first month.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and that's what I would be afraid of where maybe your team's really good, you can get Cooper cup for cheap or something, I don't know.
Speaker 4:I just think that like, I think there's ways to make it like if you did a good job drafting. I think there's ways where you can make it work.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like I'm not scared to keep Cooper cup yeah. I think if my draft wasn't as good, I'd get rid of him and maybe try to get some players out of him, like two players that I need but I don't need, like a, like what you said, the trade earlier, pacheco and or Trent said earlier, demonte, smith and Pacheco for him. Like I don't need another running back and I also don't necessarily need a receiver. Like I can survive without him and when he comes back, like he's going to be obviously the same old Cooper cup Yep, as we know.
Speaker 4:So because they have no depth behind them.
Speaker 2:So I think, ride it out and if you can get him in the second round, I think it's. I think that's a steal like because we know for the 13 other weeks of the season like he's going to put up numbers. I agree. So I think I, at most we're probably talking. I mean, of course, unless he gets injured again or re aggravates it again, which would just be a disaster. But you don't. You don't draft on players, you know, always getting hurt. Maybe there's a history, but you don't always draft on them. Trent might disagree on that, but I think you always draft on the potential rather than like I don't know.
Speaker 3:I used to for sure like if guys had injury stuff I wouldn't draft them. I took CMC in a draft this year because he fell to me at three. Dorn was there and CMC just always makes me nervous.
Speaker 2:I think the value is so good.
Speaker 4:I think we I've kind of like I've always preached, like you just got to take the best player available, Like you have to Especially in the first round. Yeah, you can't worry about it because you can't predict injuries and Because any player, regardless of their history, can get hurt Any.
Speaker 2:any game. Yes.
Speaker 4:Now I think you can. I sometimes think the values built in and and guys just that are hurt, like, but with these elite players, like it's just hard because the potential now with the guy who the potential is not like the upsides not there, then like, if he's a floor guy, then maybe you can account for like him being hurt, right. But like we've talked a lot about John Jay Sooch on this pod, where we know what the upside is with John Jay Sooch, he's healthy but then you say he's always hurt. Well, I think that upside outweighs the risk of him being hurt, you know. So I don't know.
Speaker 3:And so in speaking that, like, what do you think, like Cooper cup, we're doing, you know just long football season season, long plays. Today, underdog, underdog is our favorite. So I'm wondering if Cooper cups you know, total receiving yards or touchdowns has dropped at all. That'd be interesting, or it might be interesting you like? Hey, you don't think he's a play a month. Jordan, maybe you should do a Cooper cup play for under the touch Down limit. But in speaking of that, underdogs the dude's favorite place to play best ball Go to underdog inter dudes and they will match you up to $100. You can draft all season long at underdog, every day's draft day. They got plays for the day. They got you know just head to head. Like we're going to do a couple of snake drafts on here during this season and we'll see who wins each week. So it's a lot of fun for us. It was three bucks. You can do a nice little draft. Good place to mock draft. So go to underdog.
Speaker 4:Tell them the dude sent you so still, I think there's still lots of content, lots of contest open. I think that best ball mania still has still open a little bit week. I need to get some more teams in these weekly winners. Um, like, I think it looks like 25% on the weekly winners, so still some stuff open. Um, yeah, I got to hit the deposit button on underdog Trent dudes and they'll match $100. Uh, here's an inch cup. Cup props are off the board for what it's worth.
Speaker 3:Okay, they're off, they're off that makes it. So if he did one, you know, a week ago, you might be upset at yourself.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but you can just say how you're going to know.
Speaker 3:You can't so we're going to be having some sleeper play, season long plays in here and some underdog plays in here, just kind of what your favorite ones are Does sleeper have a?
Speaker 4:uh and I?
Speaker 1:felt season long?
Speaker 3:I don't know, I didn't they might not Well, okay, but let me look, we'll double check. Sleeper's been really nice to me lately, not saying underdog hasn't been nice either.
Speaker 4:Sleeper gives man a lot of problems on underdog. We got a Mahomes free square for week one. Yes.
Speaker 2:That's a good advantage. I made a play with that one already. We should probably release some stuff this week.
Speaker 4:We'll have some uh content out, mm hmm.
Speaker 3:So guys like here, like this one looks decent.
Speaker 4:Jordan, no season long on it, unsleeper Okay.
Speaker 3:This looks decent for me Jordan Derek Carr, 23 and a half, passing, passing TVs. You think that's too low. You think that's the right number. What are you? What are you thinking on this? And you have to pair this with another play. You can't just do one.
Speaker 2:And it has to be. It can't be his teammate either.
Speaker 4:No, you can do his teammate If you have a third guy yes, you can't just be two guys on the same team. Um, so you said 23 and a half passing. So he had 24 and 23 the past two years.
Speaker 3:Okay, so that's a really good line. So he threw how many did Devonte last year? 12, 11, something like that. Yeah, and he only threw 24 touch. You're on 24. Okay.
Speaker 4:But he had Josh Jacobs there the last two years and let me see if I can pull up his more than that.
Speaker 2:Okay, but if you look, if you look at the, even the yards, trent, while Jordan's looking that up, he threw for 3400 yards last year and he also didn't play the last few games, that's true, I forgot about that In 2021,. He threw for 4800 yards and his yard totals at 37 right now. Um, so that's. That's an interesting one to think about too.
Speaker 4:I the yes, uh, he had. So he has 19, 21, 27, 23, 24, last of four, last last five years. I actually agree with that, I think.
Speaker 2:I think I liked the yards, I think the yards is better because look at his higher seasons and the Raiders. He's thrown for over 4,000 yards in those three seasons and that was less of a Josh Jacobs year. The last two years, um, josh Jacobs has taken over more, but I mean even car through for 4800.
Speaker 4:The only, the only counter argument I had to that is, the saints may be better this year than the Raiders were the last few years, so maybe not down as much.
Speaker 2:You don't have to throw as much, but I would think I would like maybe the passing yards line more.
Speaker 4:I think I kind of lean the passing. Yeah, I would agree If I had to take one. I uh, I think I take the 3700 and a half Now what about this?
Speaker 3:They have 300 plus passing yard games for Derek Carr.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Half that's kind of a fun one too. So you could say he's only going to throw for 300 yard games or three. That you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:So I that's kind of a fun play right there, the just looking at those, well, I would think if he throws more than 3700,.
Speaker 4:I would not. He only threw for 300 yards one time last year. Okay.
Speaker 2:What about that 2021 season? You know?
Speaker 3:you're making me excited for Chris.
Speaker 4:I'll have a let me see here. I don't know, it's just car doesn't strike me as a guy who goes over 300 yards a lot.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 4:He might um look at 21. Oh yeah, six, six times.
Speaker 2:So I mean, but that's 48. So the difference between 48 and 37 is 1,100 yards. If we think he's going to throw anywhere close to 48, he's going to. He's probably going to have at least four, 300 pass our game. So I think it's kind of where you determine, where you think how many passing yards cars going to do Jordan's right though. Twenty twenty one. They weren't very good. They're down at a bunch of games. Just think the same sling in the ball, Like I think it's three and a half probably is a really good line. If you think he's going to get 4,000, maybe you say three and a half, take the over. I still would lean away from the 300 pass yard games and go towards just the passing yards.
Speaker 4:For what it's worth. Just in general, I think the quarterbacks are the most projectable plays.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 4:With these season long ones. I have a few quarterback plays I like you. Have any more quarterback plays you like I? Just honestly you're scrolling.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 4:I did a little bit of homework here.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I like the Justin Fields rushing touchdown prop Six and a half.
Speaker 4:I looked at Fields this morning. I don't know I feel me look again at what I why I looked at. I wanted to hit some of his passing ones because I think he does grow as a passer. But when I looked this morning they were just too high. They're too high and I can't like they're almost projecting too much of an increase in my opinion.
Speaker 3:Okay, tell me tell me some of you like that. You've done, you know, some homework on. What did you say about the rushing, though? You said what do you like his rushing TDs were six and a half I had.
Speaker 4:So here's my issue is they had to the year before, eight last year I just I don't know and he only had like how many throwing touchdowns. He only threw for 17. Like I just I don't know, I worry that he gets like five rushing touchdowns. That's what I feel is going to happen.
Speaker 2:What about this? The two and a half 100 rush yard games? I can't.
Speaker 4:Oh, that's the one I was looking at.
Speaker 2:So the two and a half three last year. Yeah, so and he, like I said, we all thought he did really good, but also I think those three he had a lot more than just a hundred, Right.
Speaker 3:So for you to like it, would they have to like shave that down a number If they did two.
Speaker 4:I'd like it.
Speaker 3:So if they shaved it down, two numbers you'd like it. What do you mean? Two, like if it was, you know, four and a half rushing touchdowns, yeah.
Speaker 4:No, it's that two. What is that? Six and a half right now.
Speaker 3:So if they shaved it down one touch oh yeah, six.
Speaker 4:Sorry, I thought you went to the hundred yard game.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 4:Sorry If they were like a four and a half. Yeah, I'd like that a lot of four.
Speaker 3:and a half.
Speaker 4:Yeah, okay, I mean, the reality is, these lines are good, right, yeah.
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Speaker 4:So I got the one couple ones. I got Justin Herbert.
Speaker 3:That was a smooth transition. It was good, it's manscaped smooth, oh gosh.
Speaker 4:I have Herbert over 30 and a half passing touchdowns. So if we look at what he did, what he has done, one I think we get a bounce back from a bounce back Herbert game or Herbert year, but last year he had what do you have? He had 25 last year and the year before and that was healing at 25 last year.
Speaker 2:Well, he also is missing his two best receivers, like the whole year and he played hurt most of the year, yeah, the injury.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that was like week two. Versus the cheese rookie year he had 31, his sophomore year at 38 and then last year at 25. I think the line's too low, just because I think we get a little bit of a healthier Herbert. We have a little bit more weapons, I think the adequate and Johnston and I think I read somewhere Ken Allen's like the healthiest has been in a long time, so obviously that could change.
Speaker 3:I'm locking that in.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I like that one, I think the over 30 and a half, and then I have another one.
Speaker 3:I just want to see if I can guess what you have. Okay, what do you think? I have Trevor Lawrence passing TVs at 27 and a half.
Speaker 4:Right player, wrong prop. Okay, I'm going to be on the over the 41 and a half 41 and a half rushing passing yards, and let me tell you why. I think because what's the? What is the? The touchdown number?
Speaker 3:It is 27 and a half, which I feel like is just really low.
Speaker 4:It is really low. So his rookie year he had 12 touchdowns, he had 3600 yards. This year he or last year he had 4100 yards, 25 touchdowns. I feel like like they're giving me the same number he just did in his in his second year in which, if we're being honest, it was really his rookie year, because it's rookie year was a waste. Yeah, second year in the system and added weapon the touchdowns I just worry about because there is that rushing touchdown threat there, like the rushing touchdowns for him in general, but also with bigs B and ETN, and I just like the yards, like I think it's too low for how good that offense is going to be, and a quarterback. And now the only way he doesn't get it, in my opinion, is it something like Herbert happens, where people are hurt, he's hurt, he's playing knock on wood again.
Speaker 3:We just need to knock on wood sound bite Just yeah, that's where we need a big slab of wood. Yeah and just yeah. Not your worst idea, seth.
Speaker 4:But yeah, so I like the 4100, just cause I think the touchdown thing, there's a little more variance when it comes to that right. There is variance and I think that there's a little bit more of the the rushing threat there. But I don't know, he just hasn't done it yet and he's already hit the 4100 yard marker.
Speaker 2:I mean. So if we're on this, this passing yards marker, it seems like I want to go back to Herbert because I saw Herbert's line. If I'm looking at, herbert's line is 4490. So 4,490 in his sophomore and freshman year, not freshman year, his rookie year he had 47 his rookie year and 5,000. And last year he barely didn't meet that mark of what they're saying by a hundred yards. I think that's an easy over on the 44, basically 4500 passing yards. On the sleep on the underdog pick for season long yeah.
Speaker 1:I think, both.
Speaker 4:Herbert, props are good.
Speaker 2:I think, like I, yeah, it's. I think that's a lock there. I think the lock may be more on the yards than the touchdowns.
Speaker 3:Okay, what? What do you have, though?
Speaker 4:Jordan Was that the, so I kind of guessed it, but not completely right, yeah, okay, you got my next one.
Speaker 3:I don't think I do. What do you say? Maybe Patrick Mahomes? They don't have a TD prop line for Mahomes. It's kind of interesting.
Speaker 2:They just took it out.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I just went off the board.
Speaker 2:Is it 36 and a half?
Speaker 4:It's great out right now. Okay, so you want to guess, patrick?
Speaker 3:Mahomes, 48, 4800 yards.
Speaker 4:No, I'm going to go with the seven and a half 300 plus pass yard games. Okay, I think Seth and I hit this last year.
Speaker 2:And I seven and a half, though. I think it might have been six and a half he goes six and he had seven, I think last year, right? No, he had nine.
Speaker 4:He had a bunch One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10. And here's the reality. Like he has to get eight and he has no, there's no running game there. Yeah, this is how many times you do I mean he threw his running backs. catch the ball 42, 41, 42, 42, 35, 35, 68, 34, 40. He only threw the ball less than 35 times twice and that was two of the last three weeks. Like they're throwing the ball there, they're going to throw the ball and they're spreading it around and I just like I just think it's an easy over for me and obviously like the variance could come back and it could bite us in the butt, but I just don't see how he doesn't throw for eight 300. Like that means he's throwing. He doesn't have to make it half the games, like it's less than half the games. He has to throw 300 yards and they just throw so much.
Speaker 3:And like playing the chargers. Maybe that's an opportunity where he has to do it. You know what I'm saying. And that's twice, and just in that division. I don't. Maybe the Raiders aren't that good Like I'm. I'm trying to see holes in his schedule, but Super Bowl champs get the toughest schedule, so he should have to be, you know like week one.
Speaker 4:I think he's going to throw 300. I think we're going to get 300 yards off the bat on Thursday and one down.
Speaker 2:Like well, do I mean, do we want to put together, like, because underdog does six man right? Do we want to put?
Speaker 4:things five.
Speaker 2:is five the most or six? I thought it was six. You might be right, I do. We want to throw together a season long six man.
Speaker 3:I'll do it. I'll do it with you.
Speaker 2:Let's do that Like we can do all quarterbacks. I mean we can start looking at the other lines. I know we we, me and Jordan hit the Justin Jefferson line last year. That was a fun one, um. I mean if we all think Justin Jefferson is going to.
Speaker 4:I actually have a Justin Jefferson, like if.
Speaker 2:Justin Jefferson is going to get 2000 yards, like I think. I mean, what's his line?
Speaker 3:I think we're going to get 1400.
Speaker 4:Like I don't have much. Uh right, are you going to keep going by position?
Speaker 1:I.
Speaker 4:I let's, let's do it at the end. Let's hit Okay, pull it together at the end, okay, um, we'll keep going. I only have one. Running back is what I came up with, so okay. Um, I don't know if you have scrolled the running backs at all.
Speaker 3:I'm just looking at James Cook right here. He has three and a half touchdowns on the season, or 675 rushing.
Speaker 4:What was his stats last year?
Speaker 3:I'm going to look it up right now. I don't think they were that good, but it's sounding like he might lose. He might lose some work to Harris in the red zone, but I think I'm seeing that he's going to get 200 plus carries this year.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I'm excited, I wish there was a I wish there was a rushing and receiving yards. Prop on cook.
Speaker 2:I think there's. I think there's a reason why there's not a total touchdowns Um last year he was pretty quiet.
Speaker 3:He had a good game in week 13 versus New England.
Speaker 2:He had two rushing touchdowns and one receiving last year.
Speaker 3:So maybe that, maybe he's just too new, and that's just it's just tough cause.
Speaker 4:There's just no, there's no. Um, I just it's hard to project his role and that's the issue. The only running back one I like is and running backs this year are tough because there's so many there's so many running backs by committees and you go and say one. No, nick Chubb.
Speaker 3:Nick Chubb, okay, I should.
Speaker 4:I should have known that Nick Chubb um over nine touchdowns and that's rushing touchdowns, I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 3:The line is right at nine. Right now it is at nine.
Speaker 4:So it does give you some push equity, which in some ways is nice, right Like there's some push equity there, Um and that doesn't hurt your.
Speaker 2:It hurts your multiplier a little bit, but it doesn't make you lose, it just takes it away.
Speaker 4:So it goes from like a six to a five or a five to a four.
Speaker 2:He had eight last year Um or sorry no, I'm sorry 12.
Speaker 4:He had 12 last year, nine the year before, so he's went his rookie area at five, second year at 13.
Speaker 2:Are you talking, nick? Chubb? Yeah, nick.
Speaker 1:Chubb.
Speaker 2:His rookie year he had. Are you looking at total touchdowns, because I'm seeing 8, 8, 12, 8, 12.
Speaker 4:Or am I out here? Oh, yeah, yeah, sorry, yeah, yeah, sorry. Oh, I was looking at I don't know what I was looking at there. That was weird. Yeah, eight, his rookie year eight. The following year 12, the third year eight, 12. Like, he's right there and here's the thing. I think the last three years, Cream Huntsman there yeah, there's, we talked about this. There's nobody behind Nick Chubb and I'm not I'm not a Dishon Watson believer. I think maybe you can move them in between, move the ball down the field. I think I think he gets 10 touch chance. Like, if he stays healthy he played 17 games. It was only a second year playing every game last year Like, if he can stay healthy, play every game, I don't see how he doesn't get 10 touch chance.
Speaker 2:What about the rushing yards? Like what? Like the 12, it's 12, 25. And last year he had 15, 25, the year before 12, 60.
Speaker 4:I. So I guess my yeah, I like it, I like it, I think I like.
Speaker 2:I think the touch chance is better.
Speaker 4:I think the touch chance is better. I just like the touch chance is better because and he has that equity where you can just like break off 50 yard runs I don't know I like his touch chance. What do you think of that one?
Speaker 3:Trent, I know I I don't dislike it. Like I Nick Chubbs kind of a guy that I don't ever want to be going on the under just when you watch. My only complaint is there was a game two years ago on when they played green Bay on Christmas and it was just like the Packers could not stop Nick Chubb and I don't know why they quit giving them the ball.
Speaker 4:Like because they had other guys there, they had cream hunt.
Speaker 3:I know, I just was throwing, are you?
Speaker 4:talking about when they had Jacobi Berset there too.
Speaker 3:No, it was Baker, but I just couldn't figure out why they like sometimes it's and maybe he's tired or whatever.
Speaker 4:I'm sure like I just think he's going to get all the work he can handle, yeah.
Speaker 3:No, I don't hate that. Like there's some fun kicker props in here, jordan, I know. Look at them, they're tempting.
Speaker 4:I, I the Tucker, I'll tell you which one I was tempted to. But I can't bring myself to be like, yes, let's put money on a kicker prop.
Speaker 3:You know the.
Speaker 4:Tucker 50 yard. One is pretty good.
Speaker 3:I think it has to have over five and a half 50 yard field goals made or 40 and a half extra points made.
Speaker 4:The. The extra point one is you're really big on Lamar Jackson. What about?
Speaker 3:here you like.
Speaker 4:Lamar Jackson this year, so you might want to hit that.
Speaker 3:Well, what about Harrison? But for 49 and a half extra points with the chiefs? You wouldn't want to pay that.
Speaker 4:I need to look into that and see like what they got last year and like see what they, how many touchdowns they have, yeah.
Speaker 2:Like it's got to be close to that, because touchdowns is my home's throw Like.
Speaker 3:Let's just say, my home's throws 35 this year, that's 35, right there.
Speaker 4:So Tucker only had 32 extra points last year. Okay, that's yeah 32 extra point attempts. Tucker's 50 yard one I thought was just interesting because he had- what was the line Trent for for Justin Tucker Bucker?
Speaker 3:Oh, but Kerr was a how many extra points.
Speaker 2:Oh man, 49 and a half, okay. Well, patrick Mahomes had 41 and then he ran in four. Okay, so that's 40, 45 just from Patrick Mahomes. That's 45 attempts from Patrick Mahomes, but also I mean that Patrick Mahomes is going to count for 40 touchdowns on that team this year, probably.
Speaker 4:They got a score, but they got a score.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and field goals don't count, it has to be an extra point. So like special teams touchdowns, rushing touchdowns, defensive touchdowns.
Speaker 2:I mean it'd be interesting to see how many rushing touchdowns. I'll just go.
Speaker 4:If I'm going to bet on a kicker, I kind of want to be Justin Tucker. Yeah, I agree with it. And so the Tucker one. What's the 50 yard?
Speaker 3:five and a half for a 50 yard made field goal. So he had 14 last year.
Speaker 4:Six, five. That's the last three years. Here's the problem, though. You know why it was so high last year Because Lamar was hurt. They couldn't move the ball past the and that's the issue with the chiefs 50 yard. That's the hard part is if, like if you told me that Tucker was on a team with a back quarterback, I kind of would like that problem more, but if you think they're going to be better this year, I mean shoot. They were playing with so many different quarterbacks last year that I think he was just hitting bombs because they get the ball of the 40 and have him kick.
Speaker 3:Here's a 40 yard, or a 50 yard, or 140. What about Young Ho Koo? He's at 50 plus field goals made at five and a half.
Speaker 4:He's probably same prop as Tucker.
Speaker 3:It's the same prop, but you know it's worst quarterback.
Speaker 4:He's got this guy's name.
Speaker 3:And the last name is KOO.
Speaker 2:Young Way, is that how you say it? Yeah, it's Young Way, not Young Ho, young Way.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I will struggle with that forever.
Speaker 4:He had 11, 11 last year, five and eight. I don't hate that one, no, no, he only made seven, though, sorry.
Speaker 2:He only made.
Speaker 4:Yeah, he made seven last year.
Speaker 3:Okay, yeah, I just I see those ones and they always kind of interest me.
Speaker 4:So Tucker only made nine.
Speaker 3:Last year, sorry. What about receiver plays Jordan? What do you? What else?
Speaker 4:Yeah, I got three of them. So the Jefferson one I got is six and a half a hundred plus for the EvenYard game. I just I think this is another one of those ones where it's like I just don't see how he doesn't get it. I'll pull up his game log from last year, but it just, yeah, this seems like a lock to me. I think he had like 10 or something like that last year. Let me I'm trying to pull it up right here If anyone can get it faster.
Speaker 3:Jefferson, you're looking for his touchstones.
Speaker 4:No, his six and a. I want to hit the six and a half a hundred plus yard games.
Speaker 3:Okay, so week one, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10. He had 10 hundred plus yard games last year.
Speaker 4:And I don't see how he and and he barely did anything the last couple of weeks last year. What was? Why did he only have 38 receiving one catch and four catches?
Speaker 3:He had. He finished the season really weak last year and I think that's a big reason why guys don't really want him with those top two picks. Because if you had Jefferson last year you there's a good chance you made it to the finals but you probably didn't win. Because because?
Speaker 2:he didn't week 17,.
Speaker 3:He had one catch for 15 yards. Well, didn't the Vikings kind of implode, but he got you to the championship because week 14, he had 223.
Speaker 2:I know, but when I'm saying those, didn't the Vikings implode those last few weeks? Yeah?
Speaker 3:they did not play good. So, yeah, his last two weeks were absolutely terrible.
Speaker 2:Like I don't even know if you could say it was Justin Jefferson, Like I mean, obviously, yeah, it's, you're drafting the player, but look at him and look at his playoff schedule.
Speaker 3:last year he had 27 points in week 14, 24 and week 15, 25 and week 16, and then two in week 17. You're championing.
Speaker 4:No, I really like his. I think this is the seven. I think his Nezzy lock, like I just I don't see how he doesn't have seven, 100 yard games. They're gonna throw the ball again, just like they did last year, more arguably because they have Addison too More and they don't have Dalvin Cook. So I think, and I think Madison is a better pass game, little bit better than the pass game. Maybe, I don't know it's maybe they're a watch, but I don't. I feel like sometimes they had felt like they had to use Dalvin. I don't think they'll feel like they have to use Madison this year. And Jefferson's just so good, like he's an elite. Like he's an elite, he's gonna go down as one of the best receivers that ever played a game of football. I'm willing to bet the seven. Like, if it was Jerry Rice, would we take the seven?
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 4:Maybe not back then, but now. If it was Jerry Rice now, we'd be like the Vikings are gonna throw the crap out of the ball.
Speaker 3:Yeah, literally.
Speaker 1:No, I don't know what that means. I don't know what that means really?
Speaker 3:I don't know. No, I think that's a really good. Honestly, jordan, you said you really liked the quarterback plays. I almost might like the wide receiver plays more the more I look at this.
Speaker 4:You have any more. You looked at, I have two more, two more. Okay, yeah, yeah, I'll tell you.
Speaker 3:I'll tell you the one other one I have. I don't know if Seth has one.
Speaker 2:I mean I might have one, but I don't. Maybe it's just because I'm a true ther.
Speaker 4:Here I'll give you a little more time. Seth here, I got one more, two more. Actually I got George Pickens his over four and a half receiving touchdowns. Now this is one where we don't really have. There's no real data to back this up, right, this is just a gut feel. It's a gut feel it's I almost wanted to like. It's almost like a Kenny Pickett backing two with this one. Yeah, I kind of wanted to hit a Kenny Pickett one, but I didn't like the numbers, so I'm going to go. He had four touchdowns last year. He had four receiving touchdowns last year, 801 yards. I think we have an improved, an improved Kenny Pickett and I think we have an improved and with that comes a bigger role for George Pickens. I think he surpasses the Anze Johnson as the number one right receiver there. He had four last year. I think we see a jump. We normally do for receivers in their second year. This guy's really good. He's a go up and get it player. I think it gets five touchdowns. I just I'm willing to gamble and bet that he improves. This is probably one of my more least confident ones. Actually it's probably my. If I had to rank them one through six confidence wise, this would be my least confident, but I still like it.
Speaker 3:Are you going to insure these? Or you know standard and just go straight up. I'm not insuring anything.
Speaker 2:No, we don't insure crud here, trent. This is not an insurance pod, just a question, just a question.
Speaker 3:I was trying to get a state farm promo there, but you guys didn't want to do that, so State farm.
Speaker 2:No, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I'm saying shoot, I'll insure it. I will. I'll insure every play from here on out. You know we have a state bar, state bar sponsor.
Speaker 3:Fiesta insurance. No, so no, I don't dislike that. Jordan. They say he looks really good. I'm getting really confident about Kenny Pickett, Like I've been tempted to like draft Kenny Pickett and drafts. I just can't do that to myself, you know, with only taking one quarterback.
Speaker 4:There's no point. Yeah, he's more of a best ball guy. If you really want to have like some action with that, I feel like, if you really want them, you could probably waver Wyrum after week one, or something like if he's looking at, he's a great great guy, like if you drafted like Mahomes or like you're in a big, like in a 12th teamer, and you're just kind of like, okay, I don't have to worry about to the bi-week, I might just draft like Pickett, you know, or I might take Pickett that week.
Speaker 3:I have one that I really like here and it might not surprise any of you, but Mark Andrews for a hundred yard receiving games, the line's at three. He did not hit that last year, I don't believe, but two years ago he had one, two, three, four, five, 100 plus yard receiving games. I think with Lamar Jackson there I know they have more weapons, it seems like, but with Lamar Jackson I think Mark Andrews easily goes over three 100 yard receiving games.
Speaker 2:I think that's fair. I mean he's the number one receiver on that team.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Unless you want to look at something like there's other things that you can play Lamar or you can play Mark Andrews on.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I don't, I don't hate it, trent it's just you Six and a half touchdowns.
Speaker 3:I don't know if he'd rather do that, or he has a 825 receiving yards.
Speaker 4:Kind of like the receiving one. What did he do last year receiving?
Speaker 3:He had an off season last year cause he kind of got hurt at the end of the year and was banged up, but uh.
Speaker 4:You're just a big you're, you're. I always like Mark Andrews, but you're betting big on the Ravens, you have Lamar as, like, your top three quarterback this year. You won and, honestly, trent, he had 847 last year.
Speaker 3:Yeah, without Lamar, without Lamar. In 15 games. So maybe the pack the receiving yards is better than the hundred yards. But honestly, if you think he's going to get that receiving yards, he's probably going to get the hundred yards.
Speaker 4:Not necessarily, cause, honestly, trent, you could have, you can hit that mark and never have a hundred yards in the game, it's true, cause you only have to average.
Speaker 2:Cause he could get 80 yards in 10 games.
Speaker 1:Yeah, pretty much 80 something yards in 10 games 17.
Speaker 4:825 divided by he has to average 50 yards a game right.
Speaker 3:That's not that bad.
Speaker 4:He could literally get 50, 60 yards. He could never get more than 70 yards receiving and hit that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and like two years ago was he wide receiver, tight at number one. I think it was two years ago he was tight at number one.
Speaker 4:Yeah, in 2021, he had 1300 yards, over 1300 yards and nine touchdowns.
Speaker 2:And he man the three touchdown.
Speaker 4:one is good, though, trink Cause the last time he had that much was his rookie year. Yeah, so I 10, 7, 9, 5, I think I actually had with you on that.
Speaker 3:He could get hurt and maybe get that in one game.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I do kind of like it, Trent.
Speaker 3:So that's probably my favorite one is the Mark Andrews oh no, his receiving TV is his receiving TV is six and a half.
Speaker 2:Oh, sorry, sorry, the hundred yard, the hundred yard, three and a half would be a smash.
Speaker 4:Sorry sorry, three and a half would be a smash. I take a mortgage for that. I would deposit a lot of money in it, but no. I think my favorite's the 825. Okay, Um.
Speaker 2:Seth, you have one, yeah, so I'm going to go. This is just me being a Seahawks fan. Here I'm going Geno Smith and I'm going to go his over on the hundred yard pass game or 300 yard pass games. So last year he had four, Okay and get for what it's worth he threw 4800 yards. This year I mean underdogs saying the line is at 3900 passing yards and they still have the line at three and a half I think he's going to throw more than three, three, 3900 yards and I think he's probably going to have around minus five or six 300 yard pass game. So I'm going to go there. Um, maybe the safer line is 3900 yards, but I think there are going to be some games where the Seahawks are going to be forced to throw the ball a ton and I think those are going to be the 300 yard games, Whereas the games where the Seahawks are leading, they're going to lean more on the run and Geno probably will finish, you know, 200, 250 yards. So I think I like the 300 or three and a half 300 yard games, Cause I think there are going to be games where they're going to have to throw the ball a ton.
Speaker 3:So yeah, yeah, I don't like, I don't know like the counter against that, like I think I don't dislike it. I just I still am having trouble trusting Geno Smith in the back of my mind just because of his past. But you're right, I think Pete Carroll trusts him. I'm not touching any. Uh, I'm tempted to do unders on Seahawks running back props if they have any of those. But yeah, geno Smith, I I really feel indifferent on that set, but I know that your Sundays will be a lot more fun cheering for that If you do that?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I won't. I won't want him to run the ball at all.
Speaker 3:Are you? What are you on Geno Jordan?
Speaker 4:You're just like you're in the boat with me where you just don't know. I just it's not something that like I would really like I don't know, like I just I don't think I'd want to put money on Geno. Yeah, I don't feel good about it, like I just don't know, Like I don't Geno's the one like in general, I kind of liked you know, this year, but I like, like that's fine, you guys can count him out again. No, I'm not kind of mountain. He won't write back. He won't write back.
Speaker 2:I don't know Like I don't know he won't write back, he'll just throw the 300 yard, yeah.
Speaker 3:Phil finally just texts our group texts. He said make sure we cover Russell Wilson props. I don't know why he said that, but he said that. And uh, whatever, phil, we are not going to be worrying about Russell Wilson props. Uh, what about like Dak press got interception prop? I believe it's at 12 and a half. I think he goes over that. Is that just too too wild to do? Something like that.
Speaker 4:I don't know, I just don't know, I'll be mad if he throws over it's hard to project interceptions. Exactly how do I? I have one more receiver play Trent. Okay, what do you got? You can probably guess. Ridley Ridley over 900, 900 receiving yards.
Speaker 2:Guys, if we're a Ridley pod, we have to.
Speaker 4:We have to do a long. I just don't see. I just don't see he had it. So his last full year playing he had 13, almost 1400 yards receiving. His first two years he was at 821, 866. Um, honestly, I think he's going to play with the best quarterback he's I mean, we're Matt Ryan. You just tail end of Matt Ryan right 18, 19, 20, 20 tail end of Matt Ryan. He's the best quarterback he's ever played with, probably one of the better coat offensive coaches he's played with for four Um and he's the number one there. I just it's another one where I just think he gets a thousand yards receiving this year, barring some type of crazy thing happening. So, yeah, it's, it's the one. I just like that one.
Speaker 3:What about a Jared Goff? Over 300, 300 plus passing games at four and a half. He had five last year. You think he can get on the phone.
Speaker 4:I hate that. You hate it. If he only got five last year and we all think the lion's going to be a little bit better this year, yeah, that scares me.
Speaker 3:Okay, let me count again, just to make double check. But yeah, his first one was in week four versus Seattle, so you had one passing yards you have two, three, four, five yeah, you only have five last year Passing yards I. Is there a way to sleep or tell you at the bottom the yards?
Speaker 4:total. You just need to go to. You just need to go to. Okay, Go down. Yeah, Were you looking up? Were you looking up?
Speaker 1:Oh, uh God.
Speaker 3:I don't want to really touch a Stafford on any plays.
Speaker 2:What are you? What are you looking for?
Speaker 4:He had four, 44, 38 last year 44, 38 and his uh, his. I don't mind that trend. Honestly, like that would probably be my favorite golf thing 4,000 and a half is his line on the season. That's probably my favorite golf prop that 300 plus no the 4,000.
Speaker 3:Yeah, okay, deandre Swift, four and a half rushing touchdowns spring up. We've had some.
Speaker 4:I'm just not touching what about Najae Harris?
Speaker 3:seven rushing touchdowns. Would you take the under? At the moment there's a lot of a Jalen Warren smoke coming out of the same too that they're like.
Speaker 2:I've seen people are shooting down the Warren thing too.
Speaker 3:Are they shooting it down?
Speaker 2:I've been seeing that more lately.
Speaker 4:I mean the preseason snaps and carries and all that doesn't really. I mean, I'm not really Back up shooting it down, but I like to see some of those people shooting it down. What, yeah, what they're saying exactly.
Speaker 3:What about Tony Pollard? Two and a half receiving touchdowns.
Speaker 4:It's like right, I mean, that sounds like it's just hard to project that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2:Like I can't, the CMC one might be safe, let's see the. Christian McCaffrey's at four and a half.
Speaker 4:Is there a total touchdown problem?
Speaker 2:with my calf. I don't think I think they're staying away for total touchdowns for running, because it's like you said, it's hard to predict.
Speaker 3:Yeah B John Robinson, over four and a half hundred yard rushing games Like I kind of like that.
Speaker 4:I'll leave that one to you. Try it. It's hard Like I don't what about the?
Speaker 2:this one's interesting is we all know McCaffrey is like he gets total yards. He doesn't do like just one or the other. You know he goes for the total yards. Two and a half a hundred plus for McCaffrey rushing yard games. Yeah, like two and a half, that's not a lot he should have 100.
Speaker 4:It's rush yard.
Speaker 2:You know something? It's rush and we also have Mitchell. They're not going to play him as much as what the I mean, that's what they're saying.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I mean, if someone said that I'm not going to like be, it's like the, it's like the Jefferson receive, it's hard for me to like be like, nope, you shouldn't. Christian McCaffrey is not getting 300 yard games this year Like.
Speaker 2:Oh, what about this one, this one's interesting Watson, christian Watson.
Speaker 4:I looked at the watch.
Speaker 3:He had 300 plus rushing yard games. Last year Christian McCaffrey did three yeah.
Speaker 4:So in a good year and a really good year for him, right, yeah.
Speaker 1:Mm, hmm.
Speaker 4:Um the Christian Watson 825. Yeah, I honestly was kind of looking at his touchdown prop, but at five yeah.
Speaker 3:I don't know if he's even a touch show machine, though. Without Roger, I just don't know enough about Jordan Love right now.
Speaker 4:I kind of think Jordan Love is going to be good.
Speaker 3:I, that's what I'm leaning at the end. Serviceable like competent.
Speaker 4:Like.
Speaker 2:I kind of like Watson.
Speaker 4:Like actually, what is the dubs? They don't have a touchdown prop on dubs.
Speaker 3:So Maaj P Rine has a pretty high line. Jordan for a backup 575 rushing yards, it's a really high line, so that makes me think that they think he's going to play a lot.
Speaker 4:Well, there's no Juventus. Uh, Juventus Williams props up on him yeah.
Speaker 3:That could be a sneaky sneaky one right there, Cause if he plays the whole season, he should get that.
Speaker 4:You made me bet that, I bet the under. If you told me I had to bet one side of that, I bet the under.
Speaker 3:And I know you're not a Dishon Watson guy, but Mari Cooper is trying to be the first Browns receiver ever. They've been a franchise for a long time to have back to back a thousand yard receiving seasons. They've never had that. So they said that's a big goal of his. He's at 950 and a half receiving yards on the season. Um, what else? I'm not seeing a ton Like. There's a lot of stuff you could do here. Stefon digs eight and a half receiving touchdowns. I'm wondering how much all that off season drama was drama. How much is real. Like maybe greasy wheel gets the grease or it's weakie wheel gets the grease. You know, I don't know. George Kittle, a hundred plus receiving yard games, it's at two. I couldn't pay me to do that one.
Speaker 4:I'm pretty, trent, you're betting on Brock.
Speaker 3:I know, but it's Kittle like. Look at his like. I'm sure he had that last year and he missed all those games too. Right, what Kittle Kittle can get a hundred yard game by catching, you know, a screen pass.
Speaker 4:I think he did not have as many as you think, he did, a hundred plus last year, maybe it was just touchdowns.
Speaker 3:He finished. He did not start strong Like I was in a league. He got dropped. It was unbelievable, like Kittle last year had. He only had one, wow, and he finished his tight end three. You don't want to do anything, darren Waller, it's his touchdown. It's hard for tight ends to like get a hundred yards in a game.
Speaker 4:Is there touchdowns he had in the last four?
Speaker 2:years. In the last four weeks he had two, two, one, two.
Speaker 4:He only had two and 21. What's his best fantasy year? I mean, it might have been last year. What's his most? Can you tell me any, uh?
Speaker 2:his best fantasy year. He finished tight end two 2019. He had a thousand yards and five touchdowns. He only had two and that was a hundred or sorry. 2018, 214 points, 88 yards or 88 receptions, 13,. Basically, 1400 yards and five touchdowns.
Speaker 4:He had three in 2019. What do you need him to get Trent Two or three.
Speaker 3:Oh I, he needed to get two, it was right at two In 2018, he had that was his best, most yards.
Speaker 2:He had four, I think we, I think he stayed away from four. I think it's a bad, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:Chris Alave, five and a half receiving touchdowns on the season.
Speaker 4:I don't hate that. How many have last year?
Speaker 3:Uh, let me pull it up right here. Last season he had One, two, three, he had four last year.
Speaker 4:So you, I still learned the pickings thing. You just bet on a little bit of a jump Hold on.
Speaker 2:This one is actually really intriguing, both of these ones. Daniel Jones, one and a half 300 pass yard games, or a half half game over 100 plus rush yards.
Speaker 4:Like the.
Speaker 2:Just a lot for a quarterback in the NFL the 100, 100 plus rush yards, Like you don't at a 17 game, do you? Don't think he'll get a hundred plus rush yards?
Speaker 3:He had one last year and then he had a 91 rushing yard game. That's what I'm saying, like in his career.
Speaker 4:I want to see in his career how many he has last year.
Speaker 3:Versus Jacksonville. He had a 200 yard passing game and a 107 yard rushing game, with a throwing TD and a rushing TD.
Speaker 4:Okay, let's see, I mean the 300, what?
Speaker 2:what? 300 pass yards? What's? What's that one? I mean, that's one and a half and if we're talking about his receiving core is going to be.
Speaker 3:He only threw over 300 yards twice last year.
Speaker 4:That's his only hundred yards rushing game in his whole career.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm thinking I'm like I, it just seems so low, though you know what I'm saying, yeah, yeah, um, yeah, and then you said what was the other one. You said the 300 past yard. I think Trent said he did it.
Speaker 4:One sauce twice last year. He did it once the year before, man, I think he's only done it like yeah, I mean it's only done like five times in his career.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So I think they're playing on the fact that people think that they're receiving course they're honestly said, if you made me, I bet the under on the hundred yard rush games.
Speaker 3:Okay, that'd be terrible to watch him, though I just really everywhere.
Speaker 4:that'd be so, but like if he's done one time in his career yeah, and I think that one last year was. He broke off that like 70 yard run, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, I think that I think that kind of instinct to see though.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think that kind of does it. So we, let's put it, let's put it, let's put one in a six one or a five one.
Speaker 4:I think the most is five.
Speaker 2:What's the? I think, what's the one? I think it's five one.
Speaker 4:What's the most Confident one we talked about?
Speaker 3:I like Andrews receiving and I like Justin Jefferson. Those are my two.
Speaker 4:I like the Jefferson, for sure. I like the jet the.
Speaker 3:I like pickings too. Right now, what I have? I have George Pickens over four and a half receiving touchdowns, I've Justin Herbert 30 and a half passing touchdowns, patrick Mahomes over 300 yard games, mark Andrews 825 receiving yards and then Justin Jefferson six and a half over hundred plus yards receiving what. What would you have in there and say Mark Andrews?
Speaker 2:I think the Mahomes.
Speaker 4:He has that one right? Yeah, I have that one. Well, we did talk about really we might just have to the Ridley one the Ridley's 900.
Speaker 2:Yeah, over, I might kick. I'm interested about taking out George Pickens and maybe doing Herbert, but I mean I might take out pick you have that.
Speaker 4:He has the Herbert one in there. I know I don't have the same one as.
Speaker 3:Trent, though I might take out pickings and put all the train has chubb in.
Speaker 4:I'm gonna. I'm gonna take out pickings and do the chubb Trent. So what I'm gonna do, I think we're gonna all have similar ones. I have Justin Jefferson six and a half 100 plus receiving yard games. Herbert, 30 and a half passing touchdowns. Mahomes, seven and a half 300 yard games. Ridley, nine hundred and a half receiving yards and chubb, nine Russian touchdowns. Is that what you have set there? You have something a little different.
Speaker 2:I, I had, I had chubb and I had pickings. I'm gonna put in, herbert, I'm gonna go at the same as you 30 and a half.
Speaker 4:I know you're an Andrews boy, trent, so if you want to be Andrews over chubb, I think that's fine.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's what I'm doing right now.
Speaker 4:I actually need to hit the deposit button if I'm gonna put this in.
Speaker 2:But All right, trent's gonna use insurance here.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I know, I'm standard baby.
Speaker 2:Let's go. Grandma need to new pair of shoes. All right, I submitted it. Baby, let's go.
Speaker 3:Alrighty, probably gonna regret. I didn't bet a lot more money on this. Guys. Any, any divas. You guys got for the week anything you want to share here. We got wrap this up. My wife has to leave. I got baby sit the kid. She said when she has to leave she's just gonna throw the girls in here than leave. So I really don't think that's a good idea to be recording with them in here.
Speaker 2:I mean, that's up to you. Trent, probably not my worst idea I, I, you know I go into an.
Speaker 4:I'm in, by the way, just got the deposit button hit. There we go. I got my.
Speaker 3:His account has been overdrawn. You gotta, he got a train.
Speaker 4:That's what credit cards are for. You got a ding on his phone from this bank. I.
Speaker 2:I will say my diva is I haven't been to a live sporting event like a professional live sporting event in a while, yeah, and I just forget about how obnoxious some fans are.
Speaker 3:I had the same thing when I went.
Speaker 2:They like no more than the coach, like you know, like baseball might be the worst, baseball might be the worst because really, like a lot like baseball is a little more complex. I think they under sports to understand, like maybe everyone would say that about every sport that they're really into. But like this guy, a couple like rose behind me, like first of all he might be intoxicated but second of all he's just being super obnoxious. I'm like like when Ronald Acuna hits the home run, like and he's like you know Acuna, like he's a flashy Player, like he likes to do the bat flip and oh, Guys hate that he's not even old school trend like this guy's probably like close to our age and this guy is just like. He's like you're a disgrace to the sport and I'm like, I'm like dude, 90% of the players who hit a home run do some sort of celebration. I'm like, I don't think, like you're sure a mookie does not.
Speaker 4:The most respectful. Yeah, it's a home run.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, I don't think that mookie is definitely not as flashy as them. Freddie Freeman Definitely doesn't do that much either when he hits a home run, but like.
Speaker 4:I don't think the Dodgers used to have the most Fascist player in the week we I love.
Speaker 2:I don't think this, I'm like it. Some people I'm just like or I hate when people say like we're, I'm like, I'm in the third deck here, you know, like really good seats, third deck. You're nose and this guy's and this guy's complaining like come on up, pay attention. I'm like dude, yeah, like, what are you talking about? Like we can't see balls.
Speaker 3:You can't know.
Speaker 2:I'm like right in my ear man.
Speaker 3:I'm the funniest. Well, that's what you get for going with your brother Seth.
Speaker 4:The funniest thing about baseball games to me is the Fly balls when every oh. They think that every single one is a home run.
Speaker 2:Yeah it's, it's the best because, or what the best was, the Dodgers had the bases loaded and Like people really aren't paying attention. He, he, this guy hits a weak ground ball. It's actually moogie based on. It hits a weak ground ball and everyone thinks the ground ball went fair. But the umpire clearly made the foul sign and and in the guy at third runs home and tags the plate. Everyone's going nuts like he scored and I'm like guys he didn't score, like it out and like no one noticed for like a good solid 30 seconds and it almost it was painful. Like and the people in front Like wait, he didn't score.
Speaker 3:And I'm like no, what do you, what do you have here, jordan? Like we're watching a Mountain West game. Right now we got San Jose and Oregon State. You know that's the new Mountain West, I guess like shoot.
Speaker 4:They might be part of the mountain.
Speaker 1:I know I'm saying you got a really heavy on top of my head, I think that's.
Speaker 4:That's a good one, man. I I've you know, you started going to more football games.
Speaker 2:High school football games like a little more acceptable, but it's just, it's just people, just people's fans, who just don't know what they're doing.
Speaker 4:Like, yeah, the amount of people who go to sporting events and don't understand or people at a high level is honestly Mind-blowing or what about the people who cheer when their kid made a tackle?
Speaker 3:you know, 100 yards down the field. That's a funny one too, yeah.
Speaker 4:You say that, you say the. They ran the ball 30 yards and you made tackle. Yeah, are we?
Speaker 2:or the my favorite one is this happened last game. I'm not I'm not gonna say the name because I don't want, like, if he people here to get offended, but it's like you know they're, they're their son made the tackle and he's a defensive lineman. It was 15 yards down the field and that's because he got drove back like a bulldozer, you know, and he made the tackle but he got drove back 15 yards before he made the tackle, you know. So I mean I mean that's just people, you know, yeah, happy for their kid, but it's yeah. I'm like, did you watch the play?
Speaker 3:Yeah, so alright, I think that kind of does it guys. We'll see you again on Thursday and be ready, you know, set your alarm reminder.
Speaker 4:Yeah, live stream, live stream so.
Speaker 2:Thursday that Wednesday episode will come out, and then also Thursday evening we're gonna have a live.
Speaker 4:Thursday evening we're having the live stream watching the, the chiefs and the.
Speaker 3:Probably painted like a smurf.
Speaker 4:You know, and I already know I'm gonna be on chiefs minus six and a half, so it will be a.
Speaker 3:That'll be a good one, all right guys? Well, thanks for tuning in. It's football season. It's finally here. We will see you guys next time and, as always, take care.
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