Week 5 Recap, Done with Dak, Jonathon Taylor, and more NFL Talk
Welcome back to another exciting episode of "The Fantasy Football Dudes" podcast! In this week's installment, your favorite football Dudes, Seth, Phill, Jordan, and Trent, convene to dissect all things NFL and fantasy football as we dive deep into the crucial Week 5 matchups.
🏈 First up, Trent gets the ball rolling with a passionate analysis of the Dallas Cowboys' cringe-worthy performance against the 49ers. Where was Micah Parsons? Why didn't CeeDee Lamb get more targets? Is it finally time for Cowboys fans to contemplate a future without Dak Prescott?
🤔 Next, Seth and Jordan engage in a lively debate about the Indianapolis Colts' decision to pay Jonathan Taylor the big bucks, only to see Zach Moss take a substantial share of the carries.
🔥 Things really heat up when Phill calls out Jordan, challenging him to accept his "L" on the James Conner start. It's a showdown you won't want to miss!
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Speaker 2:What is up, my dudes? This is Trent with the Fantasy Football Dudes podcast. I am joined by Jordan, Seth and Phil. We are going to recap week five. Go over a little bit of divas who hurt you. Just some NFL talk here this week. So, from a fantasy football perspective, rough week for me. Guys. You want to just jump right into it. You want to start off with the Cowboys? Is that where we want?
Speaker 3:to go here. Yeah, I think the question we need to ask is are you OK? Like I think most people tuning in on a Monday morning are thinking like is this guy OK? What is his mental state? Did he have dinner tonight? Did he eat at all? Is he eating this morning Like, are you going on a fast? Like, what is like, what's your mental?
Speaker 4:state. So what kind of question is Trent fasting? I think maybe the question you're looking for is Trent's fridge empty.
Speaker 3:I think that's the question you're looking for, seth. I didn't want to go there, but I do stand corrected, so I'm going to.
Speaker 1:Maybe he didn't.
Speaker 4:Maybe that's how bad it was, I don't know.
Speaker 2:I'm a nervous eater, what can I say? But yeah, I ran out of food by the second drive of the game, so it was pretty bad After Dak.
Speaker 4:after Dak threw his third pick, trent started eating his pinky finger. Yeah basically.
Speaker 1:I like it yeah.
Speaker 3:He said, like candy to bacon.
Speaker 2:Honestly, if Dak's middle finger doesn't get hurt there, I think the Cowboys win by 14. Probably Jordan's bets hit Seth's happy we're having a little parade. I can show my face at work tomorrow. Now I'm debating whether I want to quit or go back to work. You know what I'm saying. But no, the pinky, the middle finger had nothing to do with it. Dak looks really bad. I think I'm ready to move on. I don't think he can beat the 49ers. I think I'm ready to move on, yeah.
Speaker 4:The third pick was 98.
Speaker 3:938 PST on a Sunday evening and you heard that here first, folks 938 PST on a Sunday evening. Trent is ready to move on. Yeah, maybe.
Speaker 2:I'm overreacting right now, but what I'm seeing? I don't think he can get us to beat the 49ers. If we can't beat the 49ers, we're not going to get to the next level. I got to play. They play the Chargers this week. My wife's a Chargers fan. I'm not looking forward to that either. You know like I don't think there's enough food in the house for me to debate, to have another beating like this again. Mental state not great. Yeah, I'm not doing good.
Speaker 3:As usual, what's changed?
Speaker 2:It is extra low right now, you know so.
Speaker 3:Jordan how are you doing? Selfish team is in the dirt.
Speaker 2:Yeah, jordan, how are you doing, pal? You hanging in there, buddy.
Speaker 5:Yeah, today's kind of been like a weird, like just frustrating. Like didn't really like lose money on the things that I care about, you know, and like had some good fantasy teams like season long stuff, but like really feel like it could have been a way bigger day for me and DFS today. Like, just like little things, like I had a lot of the right pieces, just never hit like this showdown slayed tonight. Like I had George Kittle captain, but freaking Dak Prescott doesn't like can't get more than eight fancy points like Jake Ferguson. So it's just it was like a very like weird, frustrating like day where, like I like lost on sleeper and underdog or maybe one underdog lost on sleeper like won a little bit of money on DraftKings and DFS, like it was like two and two on my season log teams. Like I just feel like it should have been a way, way like better day on DraftKings for me and like. But then like also like the Jaguars won this morning, the Diamondbacks put a beat on the Dodgers last night, so like there's that. It's just kind of been like a like there's a lot of good positives, but also like just like the what could have been.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's like if I was to describe it.
Speaker 5:I nailed George Cuddle character.
Speaker 3:Yeah, go ahead. If I could describe it for you, maybe like the feeling, potentially like you match with a cute girl and then she told you she was a Cowboys fan.
Speaker 5:Yeah, but you know what? I might be happy she's a Cowboys fan, because at least she's like football. So you know, but again, like, like, but, but again I'd be like, yeah, you like football, but like man, you couldn't like any other team, you know.
Speaker 3:Like that's what I'm saying, that's like that's the feeling right?
Speaker 2:No, this is what I'm saying.
Speaker 5:Guys, I had, I had a 3% on George Cuddle captain and I barely like 2X the slate. Like how do I not like because of Dak? Dak is horrible, he's so bad.
Speaker 2:Here's the thing, jordan you will come on this pod, you stand on your pedestal, you have this platform. You talk about how bad Dak is Week in, week out last two years and you go ahead and play him in a DFS showdown. I have no pity for you on this, like you are on record saying how bad he is.
Speaker 5:Like I need like 15 points from him Trent, it's a quarterback, I know Like he. He didn't even outscore CD-Lam and CD-Lam had like four catches for like 40 yards.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was disappointed where it's like, hey, just throw CD, some jump balls Like, do something like I don't know second half yeah, started the fourth quarter maybe halfway through the third. Dak didn't even look like he really wanted to be there. You know I Paul.
Speaker 4:The third pick was just telling that third pick was terrible. I don't even know if I would have threw a pick or anything.
Speaker 5:Like you probably got sacked.
Speaker 1:You're saying you threw it right to him.
Speaker 4:Yeah, you probably, yeah, you probably, to drop the snap and shotgun.
Speaker 2:Let's be honest.
Speaker 4:No, I could have punted that ball better.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it was bad we forget that Seth is a low-key kicker yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I could have punted that ball out of shotgun. It would have been right to the guy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no bad over it.
Speaker 5:The other guy who killed me today, or we'll get there later. I'll get there later you're the guy who killed me today.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but just Cal boys in general. And where was Micah Parsons, Jordan? Like he was nowhere to be found. I don't know if they just game planned around him or what. Just a bad show the Cowboys had plays.
Speaker 5:I'll be honest, they could have made it a game. The 49ers the 49ers are really good. They're really good and I'm starting to you know you'll worry about that. Yeah, the hot challenge I might have to do, but I still have faith in the Eagles and I still have faith in one of these teams from the AFC to get it done. So we'll see. But the Niners do look good. I still don't know if they've played anybody good Like who they played. That's actually good.
Speaker 2:Probably Dallas is the best team they've played. But if you look at the schedule of who Dallas is beat, not good Anybody with a winning record.
Speaker 5:So that's what I'm saying. So like I still don't like know how good like the Niners are good I'm not, but I think the Eagles have probably beaten a little bit better teams. Maybe I don't know.
Speaker 3:Yeah, uh, it's, it's a, I mean their biggest test is like three weeks when they play the Seahawks.
Speaker 2:So yeah, but I don't know, is it kind of a changing of the guard?
Speaker 4:Jordan.
Speaker 2:Changing of the guard. A CMC had less fantasy points in the backup, running back Like I don't know man like oh yeah, you need to use them now. Like the Cowboys defense, like they forced a strip C CMC right there on the goal line, stuff like that, like they made plays. Eventually, the offense has to do something, though.
Speaker 5:But CMC could have like three touchdowns in that game today. Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 4:And they threw the ball a cow juice check, that's when you know your team's down bad. When Kyle juice juice check scores a touchdown on you, yeah.
Speaker 5:And Jordan Mason scores a 20 yard touchdown run.
Speaker 2:No, the 49ers just absolutely put the Cowboys in a dummy bag tonight, absolutely abused them, did whatever they wanted to him. Uh, I was. It was bad, it was really bad, and it's only Monday, so I get to deal with this for the next, you know, six days, maybe 365 days. Like it's not fun. 49er fans are terrible. I hate that. I'm the only person that defends the 49ers on this pod and I probably hate them more than anyone else.
Speaker 3:So yeah, trent, you also got a video. Someone I'm in a I'm in a group chat with Trent and he got a video of a guy who's actually at the Niner game right now and it's basically all the Niners fans dancing like I don't. I don't know how I describe their dancing. It's not great. And then you can see that there's a Cowboys fan just sulking. Did you see that video?
Speaker 2:Trent, my heart went out to that guy. Yeah, that's how you felt. Yeah, that's how I'm gonna feel. You know, tomorrow at work with all the 49er fans and all the random people that only text me when the Cowboys lose. You know, here's the move.
Speaker 3:Here's the move. Here's the move I like to say new phone. Who's this?
Speaker 2:That's what I did to Jordan's buddy Kyler. I said new phone, who's this? This is what you need to do.
Speaker 3:That's your buddy, Kyler.
Speaker 5:Trent.
Speaker 3:Yeah, text messages. It's hard to text messages a little bit hard. If you were in a fantasy matchup that you just get absolutely obliterated in and you know you're gonna get made fun of at work. Or if your team just got obliterated on a Sunday evening and you're gonna go into work on a Monday, what you do is you either wear headphones, the Apple earbuds, headphones are the Apple earbuds and then, like, when people like come up to talk to you the first time, you're just like I'm on the phone, like you tell them on the phone, and then by midday you continue to do that and then just like it's all out, right, and then everyone's thinking about Monday night football. So I think that's what you need to do, trent, and then report back to us during your wave arrival pod how it goes.
Speaker 4:Yeah, so basically I'm that always works for Phil at home. Yeah, basically I'm gonna do that, yes, at my home office.
Speaker 3:I'm gonna hide, Sorry yeah, I can't help with breakfast right now. I'm on the phone.
Speaker 2:I'm thinking I'm gonna like have my mouth full from like eating a breakfast burrito, then I'm gonna like be on the phone, then I'm gonna just hide in the bathroom till from eight o'clock tonight to 1145 and then by then hopefully everyone's what's the difference? All right, this has been. This is not a cowboy's pod.
Speaker 1:I don't want to make it a cowboy's pod. This is not a normal day, all right, yeah, it is a normal day, phil, exactly normal day.
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Speaker 3:So this is a good gift for an acquaintance, because you don't really know, like you know, if you have to like this could be a wide elephant gift, potentially. Yes, yes, you would be. You would be a favorite. You would be a favorite if you brought this to a wide elephant gift.
Speaker 2:Everyone needs a weed wacker. You know what I'm saying. Like, hey, maybe you don't have nose hairs, but maybe your, your neighbor across the street or your father-in-law or your father-in-law's friend, you know, give it to them. You know it works. So Manscape Promo Code dudes 20 really helps us out. Phil, you want to recap some of our starts and sits from these this week's games. Unless there's anything else, you guys kind of want to touch on from week five, like Desmond Ritter, first 300 yard passing game. Can we clap it up for that? You know, maybe he has a good quarterback. You know Jordan got Kyle Pitts involved. Falcons dirty birds I. You know our boy Steve and Michigan said he was benching Kyle Pitts this week. I said, okay, I'm gonna play him because you know that's how it works.
Speaker 5:What a call kids get. I believe Kyle Pitts had 12. Yeah, like 12 fancy points. And Johnny had like eight probably.
Speaker 2:Let me look at Johnny. Actually, I didn't even think of looking at that.
Speaker 5:I had him in a PPR in my DraftKings lineup, but he was like 12, 11, 12, 10, 11, 12. Let me look here he was like 6 for 67 in a fumble or something like that.
Speaker 2:He had 12 points. He had seven receptions for 87 yards. He was targeted 11 times and John, who had eight fancy points, six receptions and 60. Yeah, they went 20 points, 20 points.
Speaker 5:half point out of there. Titan is pretty good, yeah, and I was actually. They had to throw. They had to throw today.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I was actually reading something about maybe I can't find it. I think that the Falcons are. I think they're leading the NFL and Titan targets maybe or something crazy or their top five or something like, and they're just it's just not getting done. I need to. I can't find the tweet at the moment, but anything else kind of notable Can I, can I?
Speaker 1:you got what Phil.
Speaker 3:Yeah, like can we just stay on the La Porta, La Porta hype train, like not La Porta, but La Porta hype train? Dude had two touchdowns today and 19 points 19.7 actually was that?
Speaker 5:Did he have a catch outside of his tough?
Speaker 3:That was full, that was full point. Ppr, that was full point. Ppr yes, he had four targets, three receptions, so he was like on his George Kittle mode, george Kittle just went up to him with a third touchdown catch, yeah.
Speaker 5:It's kind of like Iowa, Iowa Titans, Iowa Titans just came to play today.
Speaker 3:Iowa Titans came to play today, said.
Speaker 5:Parkinson, apparently so.
Speaker 2:Yeah, kittle had 26 fantasy points today and La Porta had 18. So poor a fantasy dad. You want to give him a follow on Twitter at TFF dad, he'll answer. Start sit questions. He's actually said everyone in his house now calls him La Porta, like Seth with an accent, so I don't think he did himself Well, I'm just and TJ Hawkinson didn't look great.
Speaker 3:I mean, this is full point PPR for the scoring here that I'm going to give out, but he had eight targets and five receptions for 15 one yards. So he actually came to play today too. Like he didn't have a terrible game. He might have had the most targets of all those tight ends today. I excuse me.
Speaker 1:All right, let's get it Just going on a limb.
Speaker 2:I salute everyone who played Zack Moss today in their starting line lineup after Jonathan Taylor played. So here it is. Go to YouTube at TFF dudes. Here is the dude salute. I am saluting you if you played Zack Moss. If not, just carry on. But yeah, Zack.
Speaker 5:Moss went off today. Hold on, trent, on that note like why in the world did the Colts paid John and Taylor? I don't know, it's almost like you're familiar with the playbook. It's no, no, not. Why didn't they play him? Why did they pay him yeah? it doesn't make sense, it's almost like they just like we're so tired of it. It's like that. It's like you guys have kids, like your kid just keeps saying can I please get it, can I please get it, can I please get it, can I please get it? And you're just being so tired of it, like you're just tired of them asking so you'd be like, fine, you go, I'll go buy it for you Because I don't want to hear you ask anymore. It's almost like that, like they just didn't want to deal with the situation so they paid the guy.
Speaker 4:Well, I don't think they could trade him. They didn't want to do the hassle of trying to trade him or sit him. I don't think anyone wanted him, like I know, but like they just threw money at the problem Like I don't like it just doesn't make sense. It makes me curious how good of a week Zach Moss had. It's like okay, like they can't not play Zach Moss because he's had like like three good weeks out of five.
Speaker 5:Seth, you don't pay running backs. They don't matter. Like they literally, like they're not like. Yes, is there generational talents? Yes, but the margins, like the margin between a Zach Moss and Jonathan Taylor, is not that big.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 5:Obviously there's the Adrian Peterson's. You know the world where it's like okay. Christian McCaffrey at some point yeah, the Christian McCaffrey's. But like a good old line, like any running back can do well, and we've seen it time and time and time again.
Speaker 2:What was the years on that to Jordan? Because, like they, got.
Speaker 1:I just I don't know.
Speaker 4:Three for four years.
Speaker 3:Excuse me three, two, three. It goes through 2027 though. Seth, excuse me 2026, my apologies.
Speaker 4:So it's three for like four, three for 40 something and like 20 something guaranteed 26 guaranteed.
Speaker 5:That's a lot of money guaranteed, yeah.
Speaker 3:Kind of and technically it's all of 2023, all of 2024, all of 2025, all of 2026. So it's like it's it's four seasons. Does that make sense?
Speaker 2:Yeah, and it reset the running back market. Maybe a little bit. Maybe that helps. The next guy gets franchise tagged right, I don't know Like, but yeah, it seemed wild timing for me. But then they pay him, then they give him six attempts for 18 rushing yards. You know, I know he has to kind of get his seat lights back. It doesn't make sense.
Speaker 3:But here's here's here's my thought and correct me if I'm wrong. The the Colts are. The Colts are three and two. I preseason I don't think Jonathan Taylor was interested in putting together a deal with the Colts. But now that he thinks that he sees a little bit of steam out of Anthony Richardson and like some of the other parts coming together, they're still playing, like they're not playing terrible. I think he got a little bit of an incentive to be like okay, we're not going to be awful, we're not going to be last year, like I kind of want to stick around and see what happens, like I think he was a little bit more incentivized as well. Just be like all right, we might be decent, let's get something done. Does that make sense?
Speaker 2:It makes sense. It just doesn't make sense. The money like. I guess he probably wanted more and he settled, but they still paid a lot for running back, right, jordan?
Speaker 5:Oh, I don't. I'm not talking about Jonathan Taylor at all. I'm not sure what are the Colts doing, paying the guy that much money.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, I have no idea.
Speaker 5:It just doesn't make any sense. But yeah, whatever.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 5:Glad it's not my team.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So what else we got here? Anything else from these news? Cooper Cup returns to form. What was it? We kind of we talked about Joe Burrow, jordan. He came back, you know. So thank you for talking me out of that, even though I was kind of saying like I kind of wanted to see if he could play. He looked good, he was running around, made some mobile plays Scrambles.
Speaker 4:yeah, scrambles looked good.
Speaker 2:He finally looked like himself.
Speaker 4:Still only taking shotgun stuff though.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm. Yeah, I think it's the backwards that's hardened the forwards. Phil, recap, you want to get into our starts and sits we had? You can kind of recap those.
Speaker 3:I actually do. Yeah, I'd love to get into those. So, let's go to all right, let's move. So, jordan, let's just get the bat over with. I'm just going to get the bat over with for two folks on our roster is what we'll call it. I'm going to go with Jordan and then we'll move over to Seth. Seth kind of got a shout out for this, incorrectly, but also correctly. Seth got out of shout out. But let's go Jordan first. I'm going to go Jordan first and then we'll go over to Seth. So sit, jordan, give us your sit. What happened here with Pickens?
Speaker 5:Oh, with Pickens he did exactly what I thought he would do he busted off the long 40 yard bomb. I just didn't think what happened against that defense, and it wasn't like the guy was doing nothing for three quarters and then he had a huge fourth quarter.
Speaker 3:So yeah, I was wrong. That was kind of a bummer.
Speaker 5:It is. I mean, it is what it is Like he. He busted off that 40 yard, so he had how many half point he had.
Speaker 2:Was it 22 and a half? Is that what he had?
Speaker 3:Yeah, he had 10. He had a total of 10 targets and six receptions.
Speaker 5:He had 27. So if you take away that 40 yard bomb, that's less than 100 yards. So he's like at 90, 590. So what is that? 5 and 90? That's two and a half. It's like 11 points. Right, I'm going to do the math correctly there. It's like 11, 11, 12, 13 points. So yeah, you take that, but it's not like you're like, it's not like it's like a. Oh, that was a horrible start, you know, but because of that bomb, you know, put some over the 100 yards six points for a touchdown, so it was like a 12 point play.
Speaker 2:That was a weird game. The Ravens and Steelers, like I guess that's just kind of how those teams always play. I think it's like the last couple, like last six meetings have been decided by five points or less and they always play trash against each other, yeah. It was just a weird, I don't know.
Speaker 1:The original game.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but.
Speaker 3:Seth, you go ahead and try it.
Speaker 2:No, no, I was just going to say that all these this recap is brought to you by Sleeper, the dude's favorite place to play fantasy football. Switch your league over there, it's you know. They update it all the time. They make it really good. It's really nice. They also got some plays. Okay and interdudes 100. They'll match up to $100. I think we're getting back in the saddle soon. Jordan, you know that you might want to start sharing some plays again. How are you doing on that? Are you ready to get back on it, or how are we doing? You ready to get back in the saddle? Do you need time? Yeah, we'll see.
Speaker 5:We'll see how the week goes yeah.
Speaker 2:We have some plays, usually on Thursdays, so you know, and if we're feeling real good, jordan will post something on Twitter at JayMeta, underscore 17. Also, follow your favorite dudes at TFF dudes on Instagram and Twitter and give us that thumbs up and like. On YouTube, guys, go ahead check that out, subscribe and if you have a question, leave us a comment or concern here on YouTube. We really appreciate it, phil. Back to you, buddy.
Speaker 3:Back to me. I am I. The last time Jordan was really hot. He was doing a lot of country roads type bedside like roadside bedding, like he was giving us some instruction from the road. Like maybe we just need to go back to those videos. Like just get on like a street corner and start start breaking down the bed, sure, and I feel like, for some reason or another I don't know if it's the fresh air or what the ones in the car little better when you were in the car, when you were on like just a random cross section of you know love, care and affection, along with bedding, like you were getting pretty hot there. Like I think we need to get back to those those types of videos. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Yeah, don't forget where you came from. Jordan, like, just stay humble and stay hungry.
Speaker 3:It's true, stay humble, that's right, all right. Speaking of staying humble and I'm sorry, seth, that I have to transition this way to you, but Travis Etienne, man, he did you dirty.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I think he had 30 something points or something like that 30, 34. So literally the exact points the bills running back. Scott last week against the dolphins running back got against the bills last week and I said the Jags aren't the, aren't the dolphins. But Travis Etienne played just like he was Devon A chain. The game went exactly opposite of how I thought it would go. Jacksonville played ahead the whole game. The bills played terrible not terrible, but they didn't play good. Some injuries, I think, made a difference. There were some significant injuries on that bill's defense. But yeah, I was just wrong. I mean the Jaguars look good. All the all the players on the Jaguars look good. Trevor Lawrence had a good game. So yeah, I was just wrong. I guess maybe probably more about the Jaguars, I think, because that played against the game script and then that helped Etienne do well and he was efficient too, like he had a lot of big runs. But yeah, it's just a bad one for me.
Speaker 2:I'm ready, Jordan, for Lawrence, Trevor Lawrence, to just like bust off and have like a huge game. It hasn't happened yet. Jordan, like his highest scoring game so far, this season's 18 fantasy points. He's kind of just sitting there. 15 fantasy points per game, or yeah, is kind of what he's gotten the last couple. He's QB 19. I know he's really good on PFF, but I'm ready for this guy to just get into a shootout and really put up some big fantasy numbers. Like it was encouraging to see Calvin Ridley come back right Like. Ridley looked good today, had some nice plays. Jaguars are undefeated on foreign soil this year. That's a big deal. You know they're home away from home. They would call it their real home. But yeah, I'm glad to see Ridley get involved.
Speaker 3:Seth you're a defensive guy. What did you think about that? Hit on Ridley. I thought it was total garbage, that call.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I think there's a lot of videos called today where I thought were pretty bad. I think I saw like a roughing the passer one too, which was pretty bad. There's just some ones that I was like I think the reps are kind of like I said, it's hard when the rules aren't very specific and then when it happens in real time and these guys are all moving very fast, everything that looks like a guy's head snapping back sometimes looks like it's a helmet to helmet or a targeting. When really you look back at it in slow motion, it's like, wow, he hit him in the chest. Or it's like, oh, he actually wasn't targeting, you know, like he wasn't trying to do that. So I mean, I don't know. It's just hard for these reps to make these decisions in real time, especially with how the rules are. The rules about these penalties are laid out.
Speaker 2:Well, and they kind of have to, they have to tone it down for a foreign audience that's used to like soccer, right, like, so they're probably a little bit more tiki-taki with all that stuff.
Speaker 3:So, maybe real familiar with the soccer pitch.
Speaker 5:from what I've heard, it's a primarily expert, you know, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:And then there's a little more thing about Cristiano Ronaldo from Trent. In a group chat it's like the guy yeah, anyhow, we can move on.
Speaker 4:He just talks about how he looks and all this other weird stuff.
Speaker 2:I love that statue. They have them. I don't know where to go with that, but a screensaver, I guess.
Speaker 3:Yes, screensaver, he still hasn't got that photo of Dak off his phone. Hopefully after this game All right, yeah, changing the wallpaper on the phone, guys, it's going back to you, let's go to really like and Seth, I'm hoping Christian Watson goes, goes hard in the paint here tomorrow. But we had a rough. It was a like. Was it just a like? It was? It was a rough weekend. Right, I think we just had a rough weekend just in terms of our starts and sits. But, trent, you are, you are a shining light of hope If we, if we, if we want to consider one of your starts.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I've had a bad weekend. We haven't been called that much. Yeah, no, I haven't. I've had a shining ray of hope.
Speaker 3:Can.
Speaker 2:I share can.
Speaker 3:I share one thing where you have been a shining ray of hope. Sure, so yesterday, yesterday about I don't know, it was about six, 30 in the in the evening I was having a birthday party for my daughter and there were about nine little girls over here who are going to watch a movie and they're having like a fun little party and me, being the dad in a house full of girls, had absolutely nothing to do. So it's Trent, being the shining light of hope that he is, sent me a text and said hey, why don't you come over and watch the Fresno State game? Lo and behold, I came, shining ray of hope. He had some, some hot dogs there. So I just wanted to say I appreciated that. Trent, just live on air.
Speaker 2:Thanks, phil.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it was a great game to watch.
Speaker 2:I told you Phil don't tell anybody you came to my house. That was the only deal and he broke that. So there you go with that. Yeah, that was a rough game too. I was blew it to Wyoming and, yeah, nice on side kick. They made it fun at the end, but not as fun as it could have been. But, phil, what other ray of hope did I bring you that, since you're getting all philosophical on us, phil?
Speaker 3:getting Phil's philosophical, getting soft on people. Yeah, I'm talking about Devon. A chain is what I'm talking about. Trent, you want to talk about your boy?
Speaker 2:here a little bit. I'll talk about my boy. Yeah, devon, a chain. He's averaging. What is it? I got my notes right here. He's averaging 11.4 yards per carry on the season so far this year. It's wild. I know those numbers are going to come down. He got a little banged up and I don't think he came. I think he could have came back into the game but he didn't need to. But yeah, a chain looks really good. Did he had a? What was his stat line, is it?
Speaker 5:117 yards in a touchdown.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he had a 21 fantasy points. I think he had more than that actually.
Speaker 3:No, he had 21. He had 13.7.3 yards per carry, but it was only 21 points. Fantasy wise.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, no A chain. He is an absolute terror. He got to stay with the hot hand, keep playing him. Most shirt had a touchdown too, also Jordan, but I think that was because of the injury and it was nice to see the dolphins finally got waddle back involved today. He had a touchdown. Who got hurt? Trent? I think A chain got a little banged up and left the game. I don't think it was fair.
Speaker 5:I think the game was just out of hand.
Speaker 2:They didn't put him back in.
Speaker 5:On that drive, though the most scored H on ran on that drive.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I think.
Speaker 5:I wasn't watching the game. I thought they said I was watching the play by play.
Speaker 2:I thought they said something about an ankle or something.
Speaker 5:Okay.
Speaker 2:I came. I don't think it's serious.
Speaker 3:With much better pieces on the receiving core. Is this going to be like a cream hunt, Nick Chubb type situation there in Miami, Like they've always had? Like a decent stable, but now I would say, more than ever They've had. They have two runners.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and they're playing the Panthers this week, so you might be able to play both of them again. I don't know. You know so, who knows? It's definitely sort of a. I think it's more of a hot hand and a committee, I would say. Most most hurt. Still most hurt. Had 10 carries for 65 yards. A chain had a chin, I guess what they call them had 11 carries for 151 yards.
Speaker 3:But I don't even know if it's a hot hand. They set split that carries. Basically the it was right down the middle, like I think they're. I think a chain may be the guy, but like they're still splitting carries for the most part. But you said you got hurt. Yeah, one of the guys got hurt, so maybe that was one of the reasons why. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5:But it's also not in close games Like, so it's hard to know exactly what it would look like in a close game.
Speaker 2:True.
Speaker 5:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I think H, and we have hit a long one though Jordan, like a 71 yarder when the game was in play. Though, right, yeah, yeah, okay, what do you got here?
Speaker 3:Phil Alrighty. Another shining light of hope here is the Geordie AK MediLight. You got a Ramon Dre set that I thought would be kind of nice to highlight here.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I mean I nailed it. Two point, I think like two fancy points, like you did nothing, yeah. But also it helps when your team is down 31 to 0, 34 to 0 and there's, you can't run the ball. So yeah, he wasn't involved in the pass game either. I'm kind of pretty concerned about Ramon Dre honestly going forward. So I know he was banged up a lot of the week too, so I don't know if that played a part into his lack of role in the passing game. Like maybe it's just like an uplaw out or not playing him. But also the reality is that the Patriots are horrible. Matt Jones might be the worst quarterback in the league, is that? Am I forgetting somebody? Like it's him.
Speaker 4:And Russell Wilson.
Speaker 5:No, he, russell Wilson is better than Matt Jones.
Speaker 4:Desmond Ritter.
Speaker 5:Shoot. Desmond Ritter might be better than Matt Jones. Matt Jones is bad.
Speaker 4:You might be the worst one probably.
Speaker 5:So like it's.
Speaker 1:Zach Wilson.
Speaker 5:He's. Zach Wilson is better than Matt Jones.
Speaker 3:That is shocker coming from you.
Speaker 5:He's horrible. Mac Jones is awful, like Zach was on the Chiefs last week and won on the road today. Mac Jones scored zero points.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like I was reading the athletic before we got on the pod. Here they're saying that I didn't read the article cause I just struggle reading. You know articles that big in a short time period but the title.
Speaker 4:What about his helmet on?
Speaker 2:Yeah, the title read. The title read without screen readers. Are the Patriots the worst team in the NFL?
Speaker 4:blinders.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Seth, Seth Zippett, you're wearing a Seahawks beanie and you don't even know who Sean Alexander is. Like, I don't even want to hear it from you. Okay, I was like, oh, that's Matt Hasselback on TV and Seth's like who's that? You know? It's just like come on, man. This is the problem with. Seahawks fans. But yeah, are they the worst team in the NFL? I thought so. The article came up before the Cowboys played the 49ers, but it's looking like the Patriots are. I don't know. It doesn't look good there.
Speaker 5:It's a Broncos might be the worst. Would Zeke have made a difference?
Speaker 2:No Zeke tonight versus the Niners. No but Zeke and Ramon Dre. Both had eight attempts total. Ramon Dre had eight attempts for 24 yards. Zeke had eight for 21.
Speaker 3:So yeah, that is a rough one. I'm going to go ahead. We'll go to Seth. This one is kind of like. I feel like this will count this one for you, Damian Pierce, at, you want to talk about that one a little bit.
Speaker 4:Yeah, what did he have?
Speaker 3:He had 8.7 fancy points. He needed that 8.7.
Speaker 4:Yeah. So I mean I guess I'll take that one right. I mean I think you sent only through the ball. I don't want to bring up some hard things for Jordan, but I did say that the Houston would have a hard time running the ball, which I mean I guess they sort of did, sort of didn't. I think Pierce, he didn't get the touchdown right. I think if he had the touchdown then I'd be completely talking on the other side saying, hey, he had a good game, but the Texans had to throw the ball because the Falcons were throwing it and ended up being closer game, which maybe could have helped Pierce more. But I mean I guess the game script didn't really work for him. 8 points, I guess isn't really what you want from him, but I guess you weren't too mad if you got that from him either. But I mean I think you would have been fine sitting him.
Speaker 2:I had a nice sleeper play today. All I needed was one more touchdown pass out of CJ Stroud and it would have hit Now. It'd have been really nice, but it didn't happen. If life were candy and nuts, we'd all have a Merry Christmas. I think it's something like that, but horseshoes and hand grenades.
Speaker 3:Is that what you're going?
Speaker 2:to say Basically yeah, just need one more TD pass. I thought he'd get it in that matchup, obviously because I played it. But yeah, what do we got next here, phil?
Speaker 3:Yeah, so we're about ready to close it out. We have we can talk a little bit about.
Speaker 2:Go to Jordan's good start. Jordan had a good start Rishi Rice. Yeah, I think that's a good start for what Rishi Rice is.
Speaker 5:It feels like not giving me any credit. I basically nailed three of the four. I'm not taking the L on James Conner and this guy says oh, a rough day. It's like, dude, I got one wrong. James Conner was going. I'm actually irritated with this host, with our host over here.
Speaker 3:Sorry, no. So James Conner had 4.6. George Pickett had 23. The guy played a quarter of the game.
Speaker 5:Yeah, but Jordan carries her 48 yards.
Speaker 2:I agree with you, jordan, but it's James Conner, though this happens to him.
Speaker 3:Yeah so it's like here's the thing you had a rough day. Don't wait. Don't wait. 48 yards.
Speaker 5:They're a quarter and a half. A quarter and a half. He had 48 yards. He was going to smash in that game. He was going to have 100 yards Probably a good start.
Speaker 1:Scoreboard what the guy got hurt.
Speaker 3:Look what the numbers are. The numbers don't lie. That's all I'm saying. I wasn't going at you, I'm just saying hey, overall we had a rough day. I was actually trying to give you a little of care.
Speaker 1:I didn't have a rough day.
Speaker 5:Phil, our good old friend Sleeper voided all the James Conner picks because he got hurt.
Speaker 3:So how Did they also avoid him in your fantasy lineup?
Speaker 5:No, but it wasn't a bad play.
Speaker 3:In the matchup that you had when you were playing James Conner against another team, did your opponent or the manager of the league say you know what, jordan, he got hurt in the first league. We're going to give you plus five just to make up for Did that happen.
Speaker 5:So so you're saying to me that it was a guy. It is a very simple answer. Did that happen? Hold on, no, it's not a simple answer, so fine. No, they didn't answer your question, but I'm supposed to. So if, if, literally, if, you take a guy, you say, man, my boy, uh, who's your boy? I know who your boy, my boy, tyler Lockett. I think he's going to have a great game and he catches a ball with no one around him at the 30. And he's going in for the touchdown and he slips and falls and he pulls his hamstring, comes up lame. You're going to take the L on that. The guy was going to walk in for a 70 yard touchdown but he pulls his hamstring and had to go down.
Speaker 3:Well, because I'm a man and I put my word on the line. I would say you know what I'm taking the L on this one. But also Tyler Lockett has got hurt like once in his like nine year career. James Conner is basically a walking bandage Like what are you thinking?
Speaker 2:I knocked on wood right there.
Speaker 3:Whatever For everyone who is Tyler Lockett on their team.
Speaker 2:I agree with Jordan he doesn't have to take the L, but the bottom line is people did take the. It's more of an asterisk than taking the L.
Speaker 5:You know what, trent, you're better off playing James. Conner over Mondrey Stevenson. How about that Fair point? Fair point and what was the start and what was the stint. And they were ranked like right next to each other in most rankings.
Speaker 3:Yeah, let's clap it up for that. He bounced back. He bounced back. Clap it up for that.
Speaker 2:And just looking at, you know, running back scores for the week. You know if you want to just get more technical, Jordan, who are we talking about right here? We're talking about James Conner, James Conner Guys. He finished higher than oh, he's pretty far down there.
Speaker 4:Tony Pollard had a better game than him.
Speaker 2:Brian Robinson had a better game within him Tyler Algiers, Zeke, Gus Edwards.
Speaker 5:Yes, but what I'm saying is he plays the whole game. They're not anyways, whatever.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, no, he had more. He had more fancy points in Jonathan Taylor, though Jordan so.
Speaker 5:Thank you. The one I did get that I can actually count according to Phil, is Rashi Rice. I said it'd be a top 30 wide receiver on the week. He, as of right now he is wide receiver 22 and half point PPR.
Speaker 2:So that's a good play. Jordan, that was a good play.
Speaker 3:Yeah, with a TD, with a TD nonetheless.
Speaker 5:With the touchdown yeah, so.
Speaker 2:I was watching that game, Jordan, and I was like, oh, wow, Rice is finally playing good. And I was like, oh, this is Jordan's start of the week. I totally forgot.
Speaker 5:So nice play there, he's getting more involved in that offense. He's getting pretty involved. I think Mahomes starting to trust him more and more, so yeah.
Speaker 2:Kelsey got a little shook up there. Jordan, you know, were you OK? Were you just singing shake it off to yourself Like that's stupid? I thought he tore his Achilles, so that's what.
Speaker 5:I thought he did.
Speaker 2:Like what happened? I didn't get the update. What happened? It's just an ankle injury.
Speaker 4:That you like Brain ankle. He daped it, came in and scored a touchdown.
Speaker 5:Did he crawl off? He didn't look like he wasn't moving great, though, but he was in there. He wasn't yeah.
Speaker 2:Seemed like there was less Taylor Swift updates this week. Is that true?
Speaker 5:She wasn't there At the beginning of the game. They did say that the cameraman scanned all over the arena for her and she wasn't there. They literally talked to. Said that on the broadcast.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and they said they have the red tape and it's an X and it says Taylor or TES, and they tape it right next to the window of her suite so the cameraman can find it at all times. I said but yeah, TES.
Speaker 3:what's her middle name?
Speaker 2:It's just TS Taylor.
Speaker 3:Swift, Taylor Swift. Oh, I thought you said TES. I was like yes.
Speaker 2:Can we just clap it up? You know Bronco's didn't do good, but these snow cap helmets were really nice. I thought I liked them, but threw those up on the YouTube screen.
Speaker 4:And they're cool.
Speaker 2:I like them. I like them, probably the best thing that happened at Denver today. What else do we got here, phil.
Speaker 3:Her middle name is Allison, by the way, just as a quick head.
Speaker 2:I could care less about that stat. Don't ever do that again.
Speaker 3:We'll go with a. We will, let's go with a. I'm going to go over with Seth on a start with Brian Robinson. I think in his heart Seth wanted to flip those two around. He wanted ETN to be his start, he wanted Robinson to be a sit, but I think last minute he just kind of switched them around. But go ahead, Seth, Talk a little bit about Brian Robinson.
Speaker 4:No, you'd have to be a complete joker to say sit a starting running back against the Bears, because the Bears are freaking terrible against running backs. But I completely just disregarded that. The commanders are also terrible at football and gave up a ton of points to DJ Moore, justin Fields and the whole offense. So that means Brian Robinson only rushed six times. He only rushed the ball six times because the commander's defense is so bad that they had to throw the ball almost every single play in a row. After the first quarter they almost they threw the ball every single play. Like I don't even know what it was like. From like the second quarter on, they threw the ball every play. It was nuts.
Speaker 5:So, and the one time they got here, yeah, go ahead. I just say, the one time they got to the one yard line, they didn't run the ball.
Speaker 4:They threw it and they didn't run the ball. So it's like I don't even think he was even in, Like he played 30% of snaps because they just used what's his face. Anyways, they used Antonio Gibson.
Speaker 3:that's like in running back and they threw the ball to get some more. He had a couple grabs. Yeah, Robinson had like four catches.
Speaker 5:Yeah. So I'll be honest, I think we were lucky. We ran good to get six, like I think you ran good to get six out of him. Yeah. Like you should be happy because he could have had two like one, like luckily he got like the catch at the end. Like he had like a 25 yard catch and run coming out of halftime. Like it could have been a real bad score. Like it could have been a Remandry bad score out of luckily. And like you got like your six to eight, depending on what format you're in.
Speaker 2:Phil while we're talking about your Phil while we're talking about the commanders, you want to go to my start? I had here. That wasn't very pretty.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I love how we're. Seth and Jordan are just having like some conversation about the game and then Trent just interrupts both of them. That's just.
Speaker 5:Try to make sure you do a correct job of hosting. Get to help you out. I was just trying to facilitate some conversation.
Speaker 3:I was in the care and past phase. Yeah, guys, don't stop, don't stop talking. I wanted to mention my start really quickly. I'm just like letting this conversation putter out before I give you. So go ahead, trent.
Speaker 2:Let's see your tournament. No, no, this conversation can putter out, but I have a bad play in this game also. That should get some credit also. You know what I'm saying, like I. Why couldn't?
Speaker 3:you have said that like two seconds after they were done, talking rather than like.
Speaker 2:I'm trying not to take your job away from you.
Speaker 3:It's going to be taken over by AI at some point. You have enough sound bites for me like you're just going to give the AI the game script and probably use a better voice than mine. Go ahead, Trent.
Speaker 2:I had Terry McLaurin and this game was just bad. Washington drops back 55 straight times without a designed run, from 849 the second quarter until the end of the game and Terry McLaurin gets four targets. That makes zero sense to me. Sam Howe has thrown 191 passes after five games. Johan Dotson has 30 targets. Terry McLaurin has 31, only combining to see 31.4% of the targets. These two should be dominating. Looks Like I don't know why they throw that much. You have Jameson Crowder catching passes. Like what in the world is that guy doing out there? Jameson Crowder, jordan's buddy Pringle, who he's loved the last two years, who's not good at football. Like, throw the ball to Terry McLaurin. You threw it to him twice and he drew PI calls. Like, just throw the ball to him. Just like that. Like, throw the ball to your best guy. Give Terry McLaurin some. Looks Like he had six fancy points. He very easy. You throw 55 times. You don't throw it to your alpha. That's silly.
Speaker 4:Yeah, or to Samuel is the way he was even in the game.
Speaker 5:They were trying to come back and win that game. He wasn't even in the game.
Speaker 2:Crowder and Pringle were in the game over time, I know like what was going on, like it doesn't make sense to me, but like the game script was there, like if you would have told me, jordan, like hey, commander, you know you come back from the future. You're like hey, commanders are throwing the ball 55 times straight today. Are you going to play Terry McLaurin? Yeah, you are.
Speaker 5:I agree.
Speaker 2:So yeah, I'll take my L because that's the way it should be, but yeah, it should have been on paper. It looked like a good play. You know with the amount of times how dropped back, but I will say Sam Howe did have a really good. I said he was our stream of the week just for a little bonus play for me right there and Sam Howe had 26 points.
Speaker 4:Yeah, finishes one to 100 yards.
Speaker 5:Right yeah, 288 yards.
Speaker 2:QB five on the week so far, so you could have played Sam Howe over guys like Joe Burrow Sorry. Jared Goff, Brock, Purdy, Kurt Cousins, Patrick Mahomes, Tua Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 1:Those are guys, he finished out of.
Speaker 3:Yep, he actually had some really clean drives, like he looks good at times, like really good at times.
Speaker 4:Well, I just think I don't know if it's like Terry McLaurin's, not open or what it is, but I think we can look for like Curtis Samuel's, like drawing a lot of targets. I think that's something to look into, maybe on your Wave or Wire episode Trent. Yeah, he's a revenue guy and they give Curtis like they want to give Curtis Samuel the ball Like he has like more than five carries on the year, I think.
Speaker 3:He's just a sets point. He's only rostered at 21. Eleven guys caught.
Speaker 5:Eleven different guys caught a football in that game.
Speaker 1:Yeah, looking at.
Speaker 3:And has Logan Thomas been sneaky good this season? Yes, yes, he, we have not talked to you. I mean, last week wasn't great. He had 16 points in week two and nine Like he's getting I don't know. I mean, what do we say that La Porta had? He had like five targets. He had this guy's averaging a decent amount. He had 11 targets this week. I mean, again, they threw the ball a lot, but he had eight targets in week one, like they, like, I think he's yeah, and then my other set.
Speaker 2:I had also only 20% rostered.
Speaker 3:Sorry, Trent.
Speaker 2:No, you're good. Jameer Gibbs was my set and I think I nailed this one. If we can, you know, not take L's on certain things, but no, gibbs did not play, but David Montgomery he already had a 44 yard TD run today. Like, maybe Gibbs would have done good in this spot. I don't really know Lions or Lions look good though, but yeah, gibbs did not play. So this is a Morgan, I guess, or whatever. I guess it. Just hopefully you didn't start Jameer Gibbs, so and then you had Waller two, trent yeah.
Speaker 3:I was going to. I was going to move on. You want to talk about Waller? Real quick, trent.
Speaker 2:He played good. No, barkley Daniel, did he get a lot of his points when Daniel Jones left the game? Jordan, that's something I didn't see. Yeah, no, this was a miss here.
Speaker 1:I'm not sure.
Speaker 2:This was a miss, but yeah, darren Waller.
Speaker 5:Yeah.
Speaker 2:What did you say?
Speaker 5:Because you take 12 and we're tied in all the every day. Oh, absolutely.
Speaker 2:This is a mess. We had 11 targets, eight receptions, best game of the season so far. So, hey, maybe that's what you needed. Maybe you need that little extra motivation from me. But yeah, I missed this one.
Speaker 3:Yeah, did. Was it the head coach of the Giants was? He's like, what did you want him to do right there, and he's like not throwing interceptions.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was Monday Night Football, right.
Speaker 3:Thursday yes, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was good Anyhow.
Speaker 3:All right, well, that actually closes. I think that closes us out here just in terms of our starts and sits. Seth has a start that's going that'll play tomorrow, but that, in terms of our starts and sits, that's like really, I mean we could probably jump into he who hurt you, who hurt you, he is the. That's what I was thinking, is the segment that I'm thinking about right now. So do we want?
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Speaker 5:Uh, dak three. I got three guys Dak's one of them. Just I kind of got that one out. Garrett Wilson, man, I had his over four and a half receptions to close out some pretty good plays on sleeper. And, yeah, zach Wilson, just a combination of Zach Wilson, garrett Wilson, kind of let me down. Uh had a lot of Zach Wilson and DFS too, and then the Garrett Wilson did not gain the over four and a half. I I don't know. It's just frustrating. That team is frustrating. Zach Wilson's frustrating. I probably deserve it.
Speaker 2:Um, jordan, and then yeah, you kind of owe everyone a public apology too. I think you uh you played tank Dell after you told us you weren't going to play anymore. Texans receivers.
Speaker 5:No, I didn't. I I didn't do tank Dell, I did Nico Collins. I had Nico Collins over four and a half catches, or something like that. And yeah, I just kind of threw him in there and I don't know why. I just I'm a little irritated with myself, but that's the least of my problems. Garrett Wilson was a big one and then, uh, the other one who really like the guy who really hurt me today and like I had some good like uh, I had like a lot of Josh Dobbs teams on DraftKings, like Josh Jobs, markies Brown, zach Hurtson, a ton of Jomar Chase on the bringback of that game. Obviously Dobbs came out hot and not finishing great, but the guy who really hurt me was Justin Jefferson today.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 5:Justin Jefferson was absolutely brutal, like. And then I was talking about like, like on those those single entry teams. Like I'm cashing those single entries with Justin Jefferson and he gets 25 points and my main cash team, like have Justin Jefferson like I sweep, like it's just like if he gets his normal 20, like it's such a better day for me, but it's like because of that I break even, because he gets, he gets five, you know, and it's just where it's like the tire, we kill it. Justin Jefferson is like a 25 point swing as opposed to like Just Jefferson has a floor of like 20 in most games. Right, he has the highest floor of anybody in the NFL. So Just that was brutal. Like honestly, it was brutal. I'm glad it didn't cost me more money than honestly than it did. So somehow I broke even with 70% of my volume, having Justin Jefferson on it with a combined five points at the most expensive play on the slate. So I don't know, justin Jefferson was just just. Justin Jefferson was a killer today.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 4:Guy string injury.
Speaker 5:Yeah, is he wasn't doing anything before the hamstring injury either.
Speaker 4:Yeah, but the thing is I think when he could have came back in their last two drives like potentially like winning drives right or tying game tying drives, like if he's playing like there's a chance the Vikings come there's always a chance, right, but he also has a chance for him to get a hundred yards in those last. Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 5:But he had three catches for 30 yards and three quarters.
Speaker 2:Yeah, guys that killed me. Today I have here Anthony Richardson. That just totally. I had a team that had Anthony Richardson on. This is a team that had DJ more on it that I thought was gonna win. I had Anthony Richardson at quarterback and then I had Devonta Smith at wide receiver, my other wide receiver and it's looking like Devonta absolutely just destroyed my team today. He had One fantasy point. He had one reception on five targets, six yards receiving. Devonta is wide receiver 14 at the moment. But yeah, devonta, absolutely that had to have just destroyed teams this week. So, devonta, probably more than Anthony Richardson, anthony Richardson got hurt right. And then who else do I have in my lineup here in a league? James Cook. James Cook was a bad play five carries negative, four yards, three catches for 25 yards, had 3.6 Points and probably Tony Pollard. Anyone on the Dallas Cowboys hurts you also.
Speaker 4:Well, it was funny. Trent is all those guys you said, except for Tony Pollard I all had on one team in my dynasty league, all four of them. Sorry, that was fun, but it's dynasty, so it's fine, I pour one out for you, but my water bottle is gone.
Speaker 2:Seth, do you got anything else that you know any other teams that kind of hurt you?
Speaker 4:um, I mean, I just think like maybe the one thing I'm really getting used to is life Like, most of the time my games kind of like kind of go how you expect them to go. But like, when games don't go how you expect and they like Like I was hoping the Cowboys at least would put up a little bit of a fight, because then like, maybe more of my like over underpicks could have hit, or like Like what's another one like, or even like the Jags builds like I was hoping that game would even be like I don't know, maybe a little bit more how I thought, but anyways yeah jonathan taylor's probably a guy you could throw into this list.
Speaker 2:You probably. You know you've held on to him for four weeks and you not really knowing what's happened. He finally gets paid, he gets put in the starting lineup and then he doesn't do anything, you know. So I bet there was a lot of jonathan taylor plays today.
Speaker 5:Do you think you know it's, that's just. Go ahead, go ahead jordan set just basically told us he had a pretty good day. Then he's not very upset about anything. That's all set told us right now. Yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I had a decent day.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's like I went to a birthday party. No, yeah, yeah, set tells you set you had a big win today. You haven't even talked about it. A big win, yeah, did you have an underdog play that one hit.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah, and I guess justin jefferson was the biggest one. Like I had a pretty good day on underdog. I pretty much like kind of got back to what I, what I got to like two weeks ago in week three where I had like a really, really big week. I'm kind of back to that point because I lost some over the last like week and a half and I'm kind of back to that point. But I guess I was one like I was like two yards from Ferguson, um, one more catch from kiddo. So like I guess the game script kind of just Like took that out where, like kiddled even play the whole fourth quarter. You know, yeah, uh, anyways, justin jefferson, that was like he, I had him over Hundred and something yards or something like that anyway, because I thought they would have to, you know, catch up to the chiefs and the chiefs just took him out of the game and it really looked like Kirk Cousins was trying to throw it on. But also like I feel like the Vikings didn't have the ball for that long in the game.
Speaker 2:So All right, phil, we want bounce over to divas, maybe here and also maybe go to divas.
Speaker 3:Yeah, oh, go ahead. No divas, just underdog set it right there.
Speaker 2:I don't know why he's not bragging about you know some of the wins he had. But promo code dudes, they'll match up to $100. Favorite place to play basketball. We do drafts after wins, our Thursday shows, all that stuff. So go over to underdog. Promo code dudes, I'm actually up to $100. Yeah, any divas we got here I'm having? I'm having trouble with divas because I've been saving them for my waiver wire show so it's kind of messing me up to do two a week. But also I have a waiver on my week seven waiver wire show will be out First thing Tuesday morning, so you will not want to miss that. I will have all the the good stuff there. What does anyone have any divas here they want to talk about?
Speaker 3:I'll go with one and also, like, just just for what it's worth, your diva priority should be tonight's show, just as as a host. I'm just like saying it kindly. But you know, I can send you a more personal message in the in the group chat if that would be preferred. Uh, oh, he's not listening, I don't even know what to say about that Uh.
Speaker 2:The uh, the uh, can I?
Speaker 3:just give my diva. It's really not that great. I'll be. Uh, I'll be uh, I'll be honest with you. It is uh. So there's not, you know, the world's going to be taken over by ai. Right, there was a guy on Joe Rogan talking about ai Open. Ai actually was, I think, is chat gpt, Self park cars, self driving cars, self flying cars. At some point, Maybe you want to call them. There won't be called cars and they'll just be called like Plains or individual used planes or whatever it may be Like. There is nothing more. Uh, I think sad in today's society, no matter how small the parking spot is, if you're not willing to man up in In parallel park on your own and you have to use self assist like I think you are a massive diva like I. I get leaning in on artificial intelligence, machine learning technology, self help, on everything else, but if you can't parallel park park a car like our society is going to to the dumpster. Like that is one of the. That's how you pass a test to get your driver's license. That's how they determine if you are smart or not smart by being able to like, being able to parallel park right, that is a big deal in this country Driver's license. You have to do it if people are just going to be using self assist. Any old yahu's going to be able to get on the road. I think a big part of being an adult above the age of 16 not adult, but above the age of 16 getting licensed, you should be able to parallel park. I don't care if the, if the parking spot is too small, go find another one, like it's your own fault for not being able to do it. I just think it's out of the park. It's a big fault for not being able to do it. I just think it's absolutely ridiculous that every single car, basically from here to the end of the earth, is going to be self park, self assist parking, and I think it's. It's a lost skill that I think we need to get back to like there's, there's a ton of things that we need to get back to. People need to get back to being able to parallel park and I'm not great at it. I'm not saying I'm great at. I'm not here saying that I'm like you know, I'm like in a back and 18 wheeler into the the eye of a needle. Is that I am, I'm, I will parallel park. I'll still do it just for the sake of being like. I'm an adult, I am a father. I'm going to back this car up into this parallel parking spot because that's my responsibility and, as a true american, that's what I, that's what I'm called to do. To be quite honest, you, at the end of the day, Just don't look at his bumpers and believe him, okay.
Speaker 2:Hey, no, that's why you should believe me.
Speaker 3:That's why you should believe me, because I'm committed to the craft he's a love of the game.
Speaker 5:He's committed to the cracks on the bumpers.
Speaker 2:Hey, it's fall. Put the same bumper sticker that Jordan has on his car.
Speaker 3:What do you say? It's fall, it's pumpkin spice latte season, psl is in the air leaves are falling.
Speaker 2:I'm going with guys who wear Uggs. You know you can't be consider yourself a guy and wear Uggs. Hold up, hold up, no, no. If you wear a guy, you're a diva bottom line. Oh, depends on what kind no Uggs you're wearing slippers, yeah.
Speaker 4:To in public a guy who wears slippers.
Speaker 2:Come on, you wear crocs, crocs. No one looks at crocs and is like man. That guy thinks he's too good for us. You know I'm saying crocs is like a working person. You know I'm saying crocs is like a working man.
Speaker 5:I look at him yeah, they look at him and be like man. That guy doesn't even self-respect himself.
Speaker 2:Uggs are a complete total terrible shoe for guys. They're both equally equally terrible. So you think it's cool that Seth wears Uggs and tucks his jeans into them. No, that's not cool.
Speaker 4:No, I don't think it's cool that you wear crocs either. I don't have Ugg boots, I have Ugg slippers. Is a big difference.
Speaker 2:Well, that's like around the house. You don't wear those in public.
Speaker 4:There are some that you can wear.
Speaker 3:I have no problem. I'm not going to say like Trent, you're not going to go on like Corral Cat, I mean like you're not going to. They're not like horse riding boots, but like, hey, I'm going to be honest with you. When it gets close to 30 degrees here in the Central Valley, there's a time or two when I may slide my nine and a half foot into some Ugg boots and walk around town Like I have absolutely no problem saying that I wear. I'm not going to wear them with shorts or with sweats. I may throw my jeans over the top of them. I'm not going to, I'm certainly not tucking them in. I think there's a. There is a right way to wear Uggs, that you can enjoy them. Seth, I think you would agree with that. I hope you would agree with that. Is it a fellow Ugg wear?
Speaker 4:Yeah, I don't own Ugg boots, but I own like Ugg slippers and like Ugg like clog things and they're really nice and I love them.
Speaker 2:In fact, when it gets cold at a football game.
Speaker 4:Trent, I'm going to wear them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'll wear a cowboy boots because I'm a man and my feet will be warm you guys, act like you live in Antarctica. You guys act like you live in Antarctica. You know it's like dude 30 degrees. When's that happen Once a year here, like come on.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'll go ahead and let you.
Speaker 4:I'll let you go ahead and you wear that when it's 95 outside, and you also wear it when it's like 20. So it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3:I'll let you go ahead and keep on wearing your crocs and yoga pants to the football games Trent and Sico.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you wish I already bought it for guys who wear yoga pants. Jordan, do you got anything? What do you got?
Speaker 5:No, I don't got much today. You know all my divas are the same people as. No, as football days or Sundays are hard.
Speaker 2:I get it.
Speaker 5:Like everyone's divas. You know, anyone who cost me money is a diva, you know on Sundays. So there's nothing I'm the time for picking, making bad picks. I'm the diva half the time, you know that's fair.
Speaker 3:What's on your daily travels is like ticked you right off.
Speaker 5:There's some things that, but yeah, nothing worth, nothing worth like sharing, Like I don't know.
Speaker 4:Seth what do you got? I got my diva, all right. People who aren't confident to wear like just any kind of shoe, like I'll go out in public and wear crocs. I'll go out in public and wear and wear Uggs, I don't care, I'm very confident in myself. Everyone who looks at me knows who I am in my identity.
Speaker 2:Well, okay, hold on, you also have like? One of those leashes, so you don't wander off from your wife in the grocery store.
Speaker 4:So round, bark bark. Yeah you better watch out.
Speaker 5:Seth, but aren't you against people wearing flip flops with jeans?
Speaker 4:Yeah, it's ugly, but maybe you're confident. That's fine, looks stupid, but you're confident.
Speaker 5:Well, I think you're. I think your Uggs and your crocs look stupid, but yeah.
Speaker 4:That's fine, but I'm confident enough to wear them.
Speaker 3:See same thing. Okay, yeah, there you go. I can't get behind that. I think that that's like one of the, that's one of these biggest atrocities that they thrown on us, I guess, maybe maybe my reasoning like behind the flip flops and jeans ones makes more sense.
Speaker 4:If it's like okay, usually you wear jeans when it's cooler outside, right, so you wear jeans. True, so you're counteracting the. You're wearing flip flops because it's warm. Usually we're flip flops because it's warmer or like nice weather. But like, I guess maybe like flip flops and jeans is acceptable anywhere from the range of like 65 to 75. But like, like when I see people wearing flip flops and jeans and it's 95, I'm like, yeah, that's gross. But then when I see flip flops and jeans when it's 45, I'm like, yeah, your toes would look freezing.
Speaker 2:Frostbite. I see someone with jeans and flip flops.
Speaker 3:I know they drive a Honda Ridgeline. We could probably leave it at that.
Speaker 5:Get out of here, Trent.
Speaker 2:All right, guys. That does it. Remember, don't be rude, share the dudes. I will see you on Tuesday with my waiver wire episode. You will not want to miss that. But as always, guys, take care.
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