Week 2 Recap, News Notes + Biggest NFL Surprises
Welcome to another exciting episode of "The Dudes" podcast! Join Trent, Phill, Seth, and Jordan as they come together to break down all the action from Week 2 in the NFL.
In this episode, the guys dive into their starts and sits for the week, featuring discussions on the performances of James Cook, DJ Moore, and Christian Kirk. The Eagles backfield. They'll give you the inside scoop on who to trust and who to bench in your fantasy football lineup.
But that's not all! The crew also delves into the latest NFL news and notes, covering hot topics like Baker Mayfield's performance, the Seahawks' prospects, and the development of Trevor Lawrence. Stay in the know with the most up-to-date insights from "The Dudes."
And of course, they'll wrap up the show with a look at the biggest surprises from Week 2. You won't want to miss their reactions to the unexpected twists and turns in this week's games.
So, grab your favorite beverage, settle in, and join "The Dudes" for a fun and informative recap of Week 2 in the NFL. Don't forget to hit that like button, subscribe to our channel, and leave your thoughts in the comments below. Let's get this football conversation started!
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Speaker 1:What is up my dudes? This is Trent with the Fantasy Football Dudes podcast. I am joined by Phil, seth and Jordan. We are sitting a little different here and it kind of threw me off how to do the names, but it's okay. We're at a little round table, kind of like some old nights or something.
Speaker 3:Trent likes it when his thigh rubs with fills. They like that touch.
Speaker 4:That is. I hope that's not what he was telling you before I got here.
Speaker 5:You just let Trent speech us again for the second time in two weeks.
Speaker 1:I don't know what to say. That is not true, though, is the only thing I will say.
Speaker 4:I wouldn't be shocked if it was.
Speaker 1:Well, the camera can't prove otherwise.
Speaker 3:Wouldn't be surprised. You guys are holding the hands down there, yeah, yeah, so if you were to. Can we get a hand check? Yeah, hand check right there.
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Speaker 4:Oh, it's PSL season, baby.
Speaker 1:PSL pumpkin spice latte. If you go in the evening I think it's Bogo Buy one, get one free fill. Is that true?
Speaker 4:I am a Starbucks guy. I should know this. I don't know if that's true.
Speaker 5:Way too many acronyms being used in two sentences.
Speaker 4:PSL. We've said. I just said PSL pumpkin spice latte. And Trent said Bogo. I'm. You're going to be upset at me for saying this, and that's okay, but I'm not going to say that, never mind. I'm just saying, like you got, if you're looking to take a nice lady on a date, like pumpkin spice is like a winner. I would say for the most part, would you agree with that, unless they really don't like it, but for the most part, I would say most people like it.
Speaker 1:I think it's a good gamble because it's seasonal.
Speaker 3:It's seasonal, not there all the time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it seems like you're adventurous yes. Yes.
Speaker 4:And maybe you buy like a nice fall mug so they can remember you. Like every time they're getting a warm cup of Joe, they're like oh man, this reminds me of Jordan, you know. Like that's, I'm just trying to think of ideas here.
Speaker 5:Maybe you should do that for your wife's.
Speaker 4:What I'm actually doing. They haven't rolled out their fall cups yet, Jordan, so maybe wait a couple of weeks before you try that strategy. I am yeah, I'm not going to say it.
Speaker 3:I'm just like who actually drinks out of mugs anymore, like it's all like travel mugs or like Yeti sort of style mugs Like no one drinks out of like traditional mugs anymore. Well, when?
Speaker 4:you wake up early in the morning.
Speaker 3:And that's maybe you work from home and sometimes you have a nice cup of coffee to sit down and or maybe, if you have, like you work in an office and like they have, like a coffee machine, that's, that's how you say it.
Speaker 5:I think a lot more people than you think still do that.
Speaker 4:But they're all over you to do it.
Speaker 5:They're all over the age of 40 probably, but they still do it yeah.
Speaker 3:And maybe more people are generation or more like in the travel style.
Speaker 5:Well, because a lot of people aren't getting up and enjoying their coffee before, like they don't get up at 6am and sit down and like kind of relax for 30 minutes when they get up for sure Getting their COJ cup of joe. Okay, that's a good one. That's a variation over there for you. Don't wink at me ever again.
Speaker 4:It's this new setup.
Speaker 3:Sweaty hands.
Speaker 4:It's got everyone. It's got everyone excited Anyhow.
Speaker 1:So we are doing our week two recap. We have some news and notes. Just where we were right, where we were wrong, had a little bit of a rough week in the sits category. I feel like I was a little bold on those. Anyways, but before we get into our recap of our, you want to do starts and sits right now. Do we want to jump right into that or do you want to do a little bit more? Week two notes Jordan, like we can, just jump into our.
Speaker 5:What are our starts and sits? We're like, yeah, like Seth is.
Speaker 1:I'd say Seth is 0 and 2. On the night he said that me and Phil were rubbing thighs, which was a lie.
Speaker 5:And he said no one uses coffee. I can't tell Trent if it's a lie or not.
Speaker 1:He said it was coffee mug. So if Seth is 0 and 2 for the night, chargers are 0 and 2.
Speaker 3:Let me say this If your guys' shoulders are almost touching, I guarantee your legs are touching.
Speaker 4:Yeah, but the problem is I have broad shoulders, same and Trent has broad.
Speaker 5:And you have skinny legs.
Speaker 2:I dialed you up on that one Well if you look at the, aerial view, you can tell our shoulders are not touching.
Speaker 3:But chargers are, I said almost.
Speaker 1:Chargers are 0 and 2. 0 and 2. That's true. They had an 11-0 lead at one point in today's game they lose to the Titans. They were 2 for 14 on third down. That's terrible. Justin Herbert deserves a lot better. Well, or he needs to be better. I think they need to fire their coach, and I think that's what's going. I was surprised he didn't get fired last year. He's a stats guy.
Speaker 4:He's not a Dan Campbell guy.
Speaker 5:You know what I'm saying? They need a Dan Campbell guy. He's not a stats guy, though he is, but he isn't he claimed to be a stats guy. Yeah, I know, but then he does really dumb stuff that's not analytically based.
Speaker 3:Name one thing, Huh, name one thing he's saying.
Speaker 5:No, when he'll go forward in times. That doesn't make sense. He does things analytically and then sometimes he wants to be Dan Campbell and then goes against the analytics. So you can't be both.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I'm just saying he claimed to be an analytics guy.
Speaker 5:No, I know he does, but then he does stuff that the analytics say not to do.
Speaker 1:I will say they were missing Echler. That's a big deal, yeah, but lose to OT in the titans. First the titans. I kind of think this is like the most puzzling team in the NFL. It's not really making sense to me.
Speaker 3:The Charter's defense is garbage.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and just how the whole setup of they're made to be ran on.
Speaker 3:Their defense is not good. It should be better though. No, you're right, it should be. Their defense is not good though.
Speaker 5:Yeah, who did that? That's one game I did not pay attention to much today. I just wasn't on my screen much, but I know the passing game was good. Herbert wasn't bad, trent.
Speaker 1:Keenan Allen had a good game. No, he wasn't. Henry and Mike.
Speaker 5:Williams man. What Mike Williams, that guy it was a weird game.
Speaker 3:Henry was a really weird game. Henry was 25. Okay, yeah, 79.
Speaker 5:So one of the titan's scores was off of Traylon Burke, 70 yarder. They had one. They had a couple of big long pass plays and that's it.
Speaker 4:Keenan Allen had two TDs. As you know, I mean Derek.
Speaker 1:Henry wasn't great. I played Tyjay Spears in the dynasty league. He got me like seven points. That's pretty solid for a backup running back. You didn't think it was going to do anything.
Speaker 5:Henry, four targets is interesting.
Speaker 1:Yeah, just a weird, weird game.
Speaker 4:The titans could be 2-0 right now. Who'd they lose to last week? Didn't they lose to the Saints? Wasn't it a close game?
Speaker 1:against the Saints. Yeah, they had a tough game with the Saints, yeah.
Speaker 5:I will say, as titans pass, stevens is not good, we need to be targeting them. That's two games in a row that give them up over 300 yards passing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like nothing changed in the off season. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3:Who did the titans play next?
Speaker 1:Browns.
Speaker 3:The Browns.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the thing is, the Browns like to run the ball, man.
Speaker 5:I'm just going to say I might be under Sean Watson next week. We'll see how that goes, and we'll see how he does on the night football too. His numbers are low.
Speaker 3:His over under passing yards for tomorrow's game is like 195.
Speaker 5:I kind of hoped he's kind of sucks tomorrow and then we might get him in like an under owned bounce back spot, we might get him at like a 175 passing and then he'd be like hit.
Speaker 1:Potentially no Amari Cooper. Monday night football.
Speaker 5:That's a big deal actually.
Speaker 3:I'm saying no lines for him. No, amari. Cooper, I don't think he's going to play? I would assume not. I think the Browns are just going to run the ball 10 tomorrow anyways.
Speaker 5:So to be sure we can go with these starting sits or what, yeah, we can do that.
Speaker 1:I just was kind of going through some.
Speaker 4:You want me to, I have them here.
Speaker 1:I have, at least I think I have them here. Yeah, we can?
Speaker 4:I think probably. Seth, do you want to own the Eagles running backs? Do you want to own that a little bit?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I just I'll just start with that game because I have a I both my sits are in that game. So I my first sit was the Eagles running backs and I mean I guess I wanted to stay away from it. My reasoning behind it I was dead wrong, but I meet. My immediate reason behind it was it's going to be a high scoring game. They're going to be throwing the ball a ton, but the reason the Eagles scored a lot was because the run game was really good. Deandre Swift 28 attempts for 175 and a touchdown. I mean he put up 25 fantasy points. So that's just a bad sit for me. The Eagles run game is good. My other sit was Madison I think I just hit the nail on the head right here. Like he paid 76% of snaps, had 3.4 points of fumble, I mean he was eight for 28 yards, Like.
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Speaker 3:It's a video magic. Yeah, we're hitting media magic. We weren't hitting pics, and as soon as Jordan started posting videos, we're hitting the pics.
Speaker 1:My grandpa told me once anything you publish automatically corrects itself.
Speaker 3:There you go, so we're publishing every pick from now on, as long as they're still good.
Speaker 1:Do you not agree with that, phil? Like you can't just publish stuff about yourself. That's bad. Like if I wrote bad things about you all the time, that's what I was going to say.
Speaker 4:Like I'm sure you probably sent some tweets out that you'd probably would want to take down off the internet.
Speaker 1:But you should get better, right, like you're going to keep making bad pics, you should be getting better, sure.
Speaker 4:Here you are at 32.
Speaker 3:I'm just going to say hear me out.
Speaker 4:Hear me out about the going on 32. Hear me out on the number one. It's hard to root for a guy who's number zero. I still think that's the stupidest thing, I agree, I agree. I think that is the stupidest thing. So he's number zero. It makes me mad. Number two is what were the Vikings thinking Like? Why did they not get more aggressive for a running back in the off season? They got rid of Dalvin Cook. Why did they try and go after?
Speaker 5:someone a little bit more, did they even?
Speaker 4:draft anybody.
Speaker 5:I don't think, ty Chandler. I don't know if I can, it's.
Speaker 3:Ty Chandler.
Speaker 5:They drafted I'm going to see how much he played. He played a decent like probably 30% snap. He says 12% or 12 snaps 12% Interesting.
Speaker 3:I didn't see much of him.
Speaker 4:He played 17 week one and I just like because, they liked Madison.
Speaker 3:They dropped the chain there last year.
Speaker 4:I mean he had a TD last year, last last week, he had a TD last week, 73% of snaps last week. So to Seth's point. But I just like man, I don't know, I don't. It's tough, it's not.
Speaker 5:The defense is good, but also predictably. This is a predictably bad spot for Madison.
Speaker 1:I would agree I was having a tough D.
Speaker 3:That's why I picked Randy, that's why I picked the start. I mean, people have him as their RB two, so so one quick thought on the Eagles running back situation.
Speaker 5:We have week one gain well played, almost had the most usage by far. I think 70% snaps all the carries. Swift did nothing, penny was inactive. Week two it flips around. Where get gain was inactive, john Jay Swift gets all the work. Penny barely plays. The only reason he played is because of Boston Scott. So my question is we've seen two weeks in a row where the Eagles want to basically use one guy, which is a kind of a change in philosophy from them compared to last year, and I don't know if that's a switch in OCs. I don't know exactly what it is, but what happens going forward when? What's week three gonna look? What's week three gonna look like? Is it go back to that same thing and where it's like? But do we know if it's swift or gain? Well, in that role. Yeah and is that what siriani was talking about when he made those comments? Like, does he not? Is it gonna be a week-to-week basis of who's in that feature running back role, or are they gonna do something more when it's more of 50-50 split?
Speaker 4:To cousin film like another, do what like not knowing which running back you're gonna be going up against is kind of a big deal.
Speaker 5:Also, I think it could be about keeping guys fresh. There was a green. I agree there was people who were like kind of like hypothesizing that this was planned all along from the Eagles for on a short week, on a, on two games in four to five days, to our game, I would play one and and swift barely play and then gain away, would sit the next game and swift to play like I don't know how much I believe that but like Just I just don't know like what, and maybe that's a siriani met is like a week-to-week. They may just alternate who the feature back is but if swift continues to play that, that good.
Speaker 3:I don't think they can. Even weeks is a start.
Speaker 5:Who says that gain well, wouldn't done something similar? Swift in that exact same spot?
Speaker 3:possible game will has a smash week to yeah.
Speaker 5:I mean, I mean, I mean I believe those?
Speaker 3:swift looked amazing, you look great.
Speaker 5:Yeah, and I've argued that game Well has looked really good, yeah, in past times too so, and he played a lot. His feature role game was against a lot tougher defense. Well, yeah, maybe not cuz.
Speaker 1:I got burned. I know you're not gonna like this, but Rashad penny didn't look terrible.
Speaker 5:Yes he did.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he carries for what?
Speaker 1:nine yards, that's just okay.
Speaker 3:He got something else. He looked horrible. I think he had a bad holding trend.
Speaker 5:You were not watching the game, cuz I was watching. You not watch the game. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Jordan's judging me for not watching a game in public. If I want to watch the game, I'll stay home.
Speaker 4:I'll talk about that a little bit more. I think people need to hear about this.
Speaker 1:Jordan calls me out again. I'm at my cousin's volleyball game. Jordan's like Trent's not a man. He's not watching the game on his phone. It's like, yeah, because I have a kid that I'm watching, and I'm watching volleyball, which I wish.
Speaker 5:I could watch the game. I could do both. I can watch the. I can watch the game and watch, but you keep and watch a two-year-old. No, that's not. You made that choice, not me, trent.
Speaker 3:You made the choice. No, it's fine. I was sitting on my couch watching the game is great.
Speaker 4:Same here. Actually, I was watching my phone. I was at my daughter's gymnastics class Watching gymnastics and then also watching on my phone.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but you have someone else watching your kids while you're at gymnastics. You just have to be there. I just have to be present. When there's a two-year-old, you have to like make sure they're not doing skittles off the ground.
Speaker 5:You could have easily had the phone propped up against your right there and just been watching the game. Check the go.
Speaker 1:Oh, just check the game I was following on ESPN. But I'm not like.
Speaker 4:I socialize with people when I go out and you're falling asleep, or just a, just a you're falling.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was falling asleep, yeah but go ahead continue. You socialize, you talk, socialize. Yeah, it's a good time. Do you have any nachos? No nachos. I don't like to have nachos after seven o'clock. Oh, was the game that late.
Speaker 4:It starts at 6 30 Okay, so if you're a nacho guy, you got to get there right at yeah, I think so yeah. I think, so I Kind of agree with you.
Speaker 5:Okay, let's get coming it back, yeah let's go so we so set.
Speaker 4:You talked about both your sits in that game. Like you said, madison was a good one. I think we can probably. Jordan, do you want to talk about puka?
Speaker 5:Well, let me. You want my sit first? No, no, I'm bouncing around, if you want to do that's fine.
Speaker 4:If you want to host the show and you want me out here, that is a okay. I'm just trying to give people what they want. And I'm gonna be honest, you, you got to get them within the first couple minutes, or they are going to go a trance nacho talk like I almost walked out, like just give me, like, if I'm gonna direct this, you asked about the nachos. Yeah, and his answer was super boring, like dude. Have a better answer.
Speaker 5:Okay, um uh.
Speaker 4:Yeah, puka, don't raise your hand at me, seth.
Speaker 5:Oh you you right now this yeah, I think I nailed this start make my day.
Speaker 4:Okay, just talk about puka. Here we go. I'm trying to one yeah she'lls.
Speaker 5:He had 20 targets, 15 catches, 147 yards. He's just a machine like he's a target machine 20 record right 20 targets is insane. It's 35 targets through two games.
Speaker 4:Yeah, he did he did break the record, for what it's worth. Yeah, 147 rookie, rookie, wide receiver, receiving me a record for first two games playing Right.
Speaker 5:Yeah, Uh, yeah yeah, so I'm really happy with the start. I think he's worth. Maybe gonna be worth all the fab you. I do think these numbers come down a little bit when Cup comes back and I think I would imagine teams start to try to game plan for him a little bit yeah but we'll see with Cup there will be tough.
Speaker 4:If both those guys are there, right, cup comes back week six, five, potentially week five and honestly like how much longer can Stafford play like this?
Speaker 5:for eventually, stafford, if he Breaks down or what there you know there's, but like he's great right now, I think you gotta keep riding the wave, yeah tutu at well.
Speaker 1:He had 11 fantasy points, nine targets, seven receptions. He doesn't look bad. 32% roster just.
Speaker 5:The Rams are. The game script was good for them. Yeah, honestly, at Cincinnati next week, yeah, might be kind of similar game script.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, tutu has back-to-back double digit points too and he's a lot lower rostered. Yeah, I had puka on a taxi squad in the dynasty league. I had to. I had to play him this week. It was really nice upset. You know last year's champion it's, but puka I think is gonna be. I think he's the real deal. Yeah, I lost some fab on him this week by three, $3 and that was kind of a bummer that I didn't bid up a little higher.
Speaker 4:This is embarrassing for me not to know, but was acres a healthy scratch?
Speaker 5:Yeah, they use on the trade to get a trade on. Okay, yeah, try to trade them.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I didn't, I, I Did not, I, I just thought it popped like a.
Speaker 5:The report came like 945 this morning, so like 15 minutes for the games locked and he tweeted like I don't know. So Jake laser laser reported it.
Speaker 4:Sorry. He tweeted, though also like I don't know, I'm asking the same questions, you guys. Oh yeah like something like that to some extent, All right. Any any other talk there I was gonna kick over to.
Speaker 1:Throw it over.
Speaker 4:I was gonna throw it over, hand it off. Whatever you'd like to say, trent, you had Garrett Wilson as a as a sit, and I think I understood where your head was at. I think I understood where your head was at once. For once, I kind of understood and I was. You know, you proved us wrong a lot of us, but go ahead, he's so what did he have?
Speaker 1:I was watching I have.
Speaker 4:This is, this is in our dyno league. He ended up being with 16 points. He was projected at 12. So I would say you would kind of have to fall.
Speaker 1:No, I miss this, but he had two receptions and he had one, one TD. One TD that was a. He had eight targets, 83 yards and one TD. I know I think it was two targets. I think he had like a 68 yard touchdown man-to-man coverage. He just made a nice play. I was. I said it was a sit. I said you probably couldn't sit him for where. You drafted him on Twitter even today I was like I was saying like you probably have to play him. This was kind of more of a pump the brakes play. But yeah, I missed it. This was not a good. My sits were not good this week. You know that, uh, to catches 83 yards and that's back-to-back games with touchdowns, big touchdowns for the problem with the air.
Speaker 5:Wilson Trent, he's just too good to sit. Yeah, he's too talented like he just can make. He can make plays.
Speaker 1:Yeah and he uh Was. He has another tough matchup next week too, versus a Patriots.
Speaker 5:I don't know, that's tough I.
Speaker 1:Zach Wilson is getting better. I think too.
Speaker 5:No, he's not thinking so, trent. He threw like four picks today.
Speaker 4:That's an improvement.
Speaker 1:I think he looks better than last time. I thought yeah, but that Cowboys defense is really good, jordan, you not think it's really?
Speaker 5:good, yes, but like I don't know how exactly, zach was better picks today 12 for 27, I think he's horrible Trent he's.
Speaker 1:He had five, five rushing attempts today for 36 yards, like the first half he was doing.
Speaker 5:The guy would throw him for a hundred yards, wasn't for the Garrett Wilson bomb. Yeah, you're right, he's bad. Don't like you not getting better?
Speaker 1:I think he's getting better from last year. You don't think so. He led the Jetson rushing. Like am I get say am I saying stardom? No, I absolutely do not, stardom I.
Speaker 5:Just don't know why he's getting better, but Is for what it's worth.
Speaker 4:His three picks were on their final three drives, so he was kind of he was, was out of there making rest he was taking rest at the very end you want to have a back your comment.
Speaker 1:But no, it's still three picks, though, yeah it's like not fancy relevant, like you're definitely not playing here, or is?
Speaker 5:that game. That was like semi-close, so it's not act like it was garbage time.
Speaker 1:Was it close, though, but like when you're like 30 to 10, but like when you're at that point. I think you got through it was gonna let it ride at some point, though, when you're when the final three drives, when I mean it wasn't that score, but they were down by like three sessions, yeah, probably. The good thing with it, though, is is he's not afraid to throw it to Garrett Wilson.
Speaker 5:He did targets yeah.
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Speaker 3:Johnny, you guys are touching thighs over there.
Speaker 4:All right, moving on here, dj, more I'm gonna go over with you, jordan, do you? You fully prepped and ready to go? Yeah?
Speaker 5:So DJ, more like kind of how it. What happened is kind of what. Like what I thought was gonna happen is kind of what happened. Man, he like three catches on the first drive, like 60 yards, and then I think, like the fourth quarter had the three catches for like 40 more yards. So he ended up with six catches, 104 yards, 15 points.
Speaker 1:I'd say it's a solid he had a really big, almost had a really big play where he just fell out of bounds like, yeah, total long, 17, so 17 and a third yards per catch.
Speaker 4:Like he had some pretty longer catches, huh.
Speaker 5:So I think it was a good match. The bucks pasty is not good and so I think that's a bucks, I think it's a passing defense. We want to target kind of all throughout the year, so it just some fields can case he plays. Sorry, I mean I think the bears bears are also defense is also somewhere where we're gonna want to target. Um, I think we're gonna have them a home smash week next week. What?
Speaker 1:about? Like what about Justin Fields? Like, is this just I? I follow some bears Instagram pages. I don't ask me why. Like there's just a guy I follow bear down, yeah, bear down and bear grills. He's like been a huge Justin Fields guy. I actually not because of him. I'm not like getting my plays from stuff like that. I just follow a couple NFL it's on our Instagram. But he came out today and he's like I think I'm done with Justin Fields, like I'm done watching him. I said that last year and he hasn't have they lost seven games in a row Like he had a really good, not good there, no, and it's like it was all garbage time last year he had. I think you got to write it out with him. But what's his? What's his stats on the season?
Speaker 5:like it is there, he has 13 fancy points, 13 fans fancy points back to back weeks like he.
Speaker 1:Just I Thought he was gonna turn the corner this year and what I mean?
Speaker 4:he has some. He has some decent. He has some decent pieces around him.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he ran for three yards today.
Speaker 5:Their defense is so bad though they're gonna be down in every single game, which is not.
Speaker 4:That could be. That could be good for fantasy, though.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I mean we'll see. I'm curious to be. Really bad yeah do you turn?
Speaker 4:are you just? Yeah, it could be a lot of picks a trainer.
Speaker 5:He's not rushing as much a 57 yards rushing last week.
Speaker 4:Yeah, if you're a baker guy, are you just in hog heaven right now? I am minus the pleasantly surprised.
Speaker 1:I'm pleasantly surprised about Baker.
Speaker 5:I also played too horrible.
Speaker 1:Horrible past defenses. He's winning.
Speaker 3:You know who's look good is my Kevin's Mike Evans.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I gave him looks really I played Tyree kill last week in fancy football.
Speaker 4:I played my. It's gonna be a rough week next week against the Eagles.
Speaker 5:That will be the test right there. I think he fails that test. I mean the Eagles. Past evens is exploitable, though.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. And but Mike Evans, he 171 yards today, one TD like Bakers throwing him the ball Next week's a good test. They might be kind of a surprise team for the NFC South. Maybe they can make that run right there.
Speaker 4:I don't think you would even be a surprise, like I think you might see them being competitors in the NFC South.
Speaker 1:Baker has 21,. Had 21 fantasy points this week. I believe he's quarterback 14 on the season so far.
Speaker 4:It's gonna be them in the in the Saints right.
Speaker 1:I would think it'd be them in the Saints. So he plays the Eagles this week, then the Bucks play at New Orleans, and it's always fun to watch Mike Evans and Latimore's. Latimore's still there, I think.
Speaker 4:So have they fought like three of the last three seasons, yeah, so that'll be, that'll be great.
Speaker 1:Then you throw Baker into that fight scenario. It could be a lot of fun on that Saints and Bucks game.
Speaker 4:Yeah, anyhow, let's move on. Let's keep this show moving along here, just for the sake of the fans. I'm going. You've already given both of your both of your sets. Seth, you had Eagles running backs and Alexander Madison. You want to talk about Juju or Christian Kirk?
Speaker 3:first, I'll start with my good start. I'll start with Kirk. So I know, last pod I said Kirk was gonna have either a similar game as Ridley or a better game. He actually ended up having a lot better game than Ridley. I think Ridley had like 40 yards or something I was something around there and Kirk went 11 receptions on 14 targets, 110 yards. So I mean he was just the feature receiver. I think this game didn't play into what everyone thought it was gonna be, but I think Kirk was a smash. Like I thought I said, the slot receiver in this game has done well against the Chiefs and the slot receiver did good against the Chiefs this week. So just a good play. Calvin Ridley just absolutely destroyed my fancy teams and a lot of my parlays, so that wasn't fun. Underdog, underdog, that's my underdog. You know best ball drafts, that's my favorite place to do all that stuff.
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Speaker 4:That's what I was gonna say. We just need to get like a little temp. You know, I Jordan went dark for a couple hours and so he's wearing Chiefs red because of the Chiefs.
Speaker 1:That is not true.
Speaker 4:Can we just get like a little temp? I mean, what's? How are you feeling? Are the Jaguars?
Speaker 1:Just in general, like not football related.
Speaker 4:Fine, no football related. What'd you think about today's game? Oh, we had some. We had a listening listener, friend of the pod, relative to some of you guys he's. He checked in on your wellbeing and I was part of that group chat, you know and so Jaguar should have won the game.
Speaker 5:They blew multiple opportunities in the red zone. So I don't know, they just kind of they forced turnovers in the first half and then convert. So yeah, I mean is what it is.
Speaker 1:That right tackle. He's the most penalized player or had more penalties today than any player had in NFL history. Five penalties in the game oh, Joe Wontailer.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:They're saying they think just some stuff. I've seen they're saying that maybe a problem. I don't know, but I think he had two off sides and maybe two holdings and something else or something Like he just had a but it's kind of weird.
Speaker 5:He's also. He's playing his team, His old team and then maybe Josh Allen.
Speaker 1:It's Josh Allen, right. Maybe he kind of knew his weaknesses and exploited it, and yeah.
Speaker 4:And they have a the next couple of weeks. Well, the next two weeks will be kind of light right. They got the Texans and then the Falcons. I mean the Falcons game could be a good one, but then they got bills. So you're probably looking at hopefully going two and O in the next couple of weeks here.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I mean Jaguar really could have won this game. They had even at the end of the game they had a real close to two touchdowns. Zay Jones didn't get his feet in. I really didn't get his feet in. Trevor Lawrence missed a wide open, zay Jones in the end zone, so yeah that's what it was, you know. I know all the players and coaches were pretty upset about the game, so yeah, we'll see him bounce back next week.
Speaker 4:Jordan, I'm going to come back to you here. You're already kind of chatting here you want to talk about. You know, I just keep kicking him always down, phil, how about that? I can skip, we can come back to this one.
Speaker 5:Let's talk about it.
Speaker 4:I'm disappointed because I followed your advice just for what it's worth and I just got annihilated because of it. But I'm going to let you, annihilated by my feelings more than anything else.
Speaker 5:Honestly, like it was looking good for a while, Like even the first, the first touchdown wasn't great. It was really annoying because Waddle almost broke a foot to yard touchdown. He tripped over his own feet and then most of it comes in and scores his touchdown. But really even that. Then at half he was like 30 yards in a touchdown or whatever 35 in a touchdown and then he just broke off that 40 out run for a touchdown. It was downhill from there. I was sitting okay and showdown too and I just I had zero most 120, 121 yards, 18 attempts, two TDs. Like it didn't also. It also hurt that Ahmed got hurt in the middle of that game.
Speaker 2:Salvin.
Speaker 5:Yeah. He was getting a lot of work in the first half too.
Speaker 4:He played at UDub.
Speaker 5:So yeah, I don't know, it's just a tough. Oh, I felt really good. I felt really good about that sit too.
Speaker 3:I did not know Moser is 31. He's an older running backs in the league. Yeah, still blazing fast.
Speaker 5:The game went the opposite of how I thought it was going to go. I thought they would kind of stop the run and to it have to throw, and didn't really work out like that.
Speaker 4:Yeah, all right, let's. I'm going to go, trent. I think we're going to go with. Let's go with. Let's go with. I'm going to go with another one of your sits, because then we're going to go with another of your starts. Let's go with. Let's go with Terry McLaren. Before we start, can we, can I say did you guys see that? Hit on Logan Thomas.
Speaker 1:I did not see it. I heard it was the guy got ejected. Right, he got ejected.
Speaker 4:I think they he may be facing disciplinary action because he had another hit. He got fine bad last week, Last week, but to hit this week didn't look terrible, yeah, but I think it was pretty dirty. It just went shoulder to head I think. Anyhow, I just was like man.
Speaker 5:I feel like that's just kind of pretty nasty hit man, but I feel like it was, and they got in a fight after it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the fight, I did see the full.
Speaker 4:It's a nasty hit but it doesn't go, doesn't it look shoulder, then head, oh it's definitely shelled. Let me see, let me see, can you pop that over here? Cream Jackson, that's just football man.
Speaker 1:It's helmet to helmet, but it's kind of football.
Speaker 4:I like watching. Yeah, if you're getting paid millions of dollars to play for a yearly basis, like hey, I mean, I don't know man like.
Speaker 1:I miss the old early Like.
Speaker 5:here's the issue, Phil, is that they know that's a flag. They know that possible.
Speaker 4:Like I get what you're saying, like he's just shouldn't like. This is the rules we have to play by now you don't do it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I agree. I agree with that. He just got fined last week.
Speaker 4:Yeah, no, you got it. You got to be smarter. I agree with that.
Speaker 3:And the hit last week was bad too. On Jacobi Myers.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I didn't see that one.
Speaker 5:But yeah, this is, I mean it probably wasn't as bad as the hit on Hunter this weekend. Did you see that one?
Speaker 4:on Travis Hunter Travis Hunter, yeah, do you see that? That one was worse to me because it was blatant. This one is just like he was trying to knock the ball out, do you get?
Speaker 5:what I'm saying. I actually disagree with that. Take whole hard, you think you think this one's worse?
Speaker 4:Yes, this is actually a football play, whereas that DB from Colorado State, the ball had already gone past him and he still hit him.
Speaker 5:Yeah, but like what's the worst now is going to happen. Travis Hunter he broke his rib like.
Speaker 4:And what's the worst that happened, Logan Thomas. He got up and walked off the field. Yeah, hunter left the game, but he loved the game and may not be playing.
Speaker 5:But it would have been worse. Like the helmet to helmet is way worse.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the Hunter one was bad too, because those both teams were like head hunting that whole game. Oh it was it was terrible.
Speaker 4:It was on one, jordan, it was such a fun game to watch.
Speaker 3:The Colorado Colorado State game was so fun to watch, but there was so much head hunting that game it was making me sick. I'm like these guys are so immature and they can't display a freaking football.
Speaker 5:Oh, look at their coaches.
Speaker 3:No, I know, and it's sad, it really is sad. I'm like how does one player legit have five personal foul penalties in one game? I'm like you are an idiot, you're an idiot.
Speaker 5:Well, the worst is they were lighten up the quarterback. Should do overtime, oh yeah.
Speaker 3:Well, and should do. Sanders poking a guy in the eyes. Did you not see that? I didn't see it. He's talking to him and he pokes him in the eyes. I'm like dude. This game is out of control.
Speaker 1:The best thing that happened in college football was when. I'll just save this for my diva of the week.
Speaker 4:I'll save it. I'll save it. Divas of the week. Are you talking about the kicker?
Speaker 2:No no, can I?
Speaker 4:talk about the kicker. What kicker 31 years old and three kids kicking for Colorado State. Where do you go from there? Is that your dream, phil? Uh, I don't know. I don't think. If I was to walk on, I think I'd have to be getting really like, get really good at pickleball or something like that. Like, I'm not, I'm not kicking. I'm definitely not a kicker.
Speaker 3:It's called intramural.
Speaker 4:All right, we're moving on here, trent talking about Terry McLaren.
Speaker 1:I actually felt pretty good about. I felt pretty good about Terry McLaren. Uh, he had a really nice touchdown catch and he he had targets like Well, like at half, what was it? Three to 20. It was three to 20 at one point I was like. That was when I was kind of like, okay, this he's gonna get the volume. You know, like he's, they're gonna start throwing the ball. Really good game, maybe one of the best games of the day. But yeah, this was a miss by me. Terry McLaren, uh, had a nice touchdown. He had the I mean Trent, he had 54 yards and the TD.
Speaker 4:I really saved him Right.
Speaker 2:I mean, I guess he did have.
Speaker 4:He had five receptions. But like he had five reception and you're screaming.
Speaker 3:You're right, If he doesn't catch a touchdown and that touchdown was a big yard is touched First half he had first half he had five catches for 50 yards.
Speaker 1:He scrambled.
Speaker 3:He finished the touchdown and that's what he did.
Speaker 1:That wasn't the first half, sorry yeah.
Speaker 3:Got saved by.
Speaker 1:He had five catches 54 yards and a really nice touchdown catch.
Speaker 3:So you just got burned by big plays this week.
Speaker 1:Yeah and yeah, like volume wise I did pretty good. Between my two sits there was seven catches.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no, that's totally fine yeah.
Speaker 4:Big plays, but, uh, you probably feel pretty good about one of your starts. Though. Let's talk about James Cook. Can we talk about?
Speaker 1:that we can talk about that, but this game was great. Phil Russ had the big Hail.
Speaker 4:Mary, at the end Let Russ cook. I saw you texted that to the group. That it for for talking. All that trash on Peyton is Owen too. He's Owen too.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 4:They're not good, they suck, yeah, but why would you come into the season just chirping away? You know other coaches like he had some videos Like it's just like he's Owen, I don't know. I don't know. This could be an urban Meyer rewind with Sean Peyton coming back, like it could end up going that far but I don't know, Dude, there was a. Let's just let's continue on James Cook.
Speaker 1:Yeah, James Cook. I was I felt really good about this play. He a hundred yards rushing. It looked like they finally really got him involved. The only problem with James Cook is a a tervious. Murray got the red zone carry Like that's a bummer, but I think that's also kind of what we expected.
Speaker 5:And a Damien Harris had a touchdown.
Speaker 1:Touchdowns. So yeah, Cook had 17 attempts, 123 yards. It would be really nice if he had a touchdown.
Speaker 5:It was the perfect game script for Cook.
Speaker 1:Well, and then Josh Allen, I think, had like two, like two yard touchdown passes a day, like Dawson Knox caught like a five yard TD. And then I think, uh, rick Shahid did you know, Shahid, what's what's?
Speaker 5:what's? Shakir, Shakir. And then Gabe Davis had a short one.
Speaker 1:Shakira, shakira. So they were just running down there. I was the um, but yeah, I felt really good about this one.
Speaker 4:Yeah, no, he is a. It was a good one and you're going to you're going to talk any trash Trader Nation? I know you like chirping everyone, no.
Speaker 1:I. I'm not going to talk trash or your nation, they're. They're people too, phil, and they listen to the pod. So yeah, I.
Speaker 4:I wasn't going to, but I know you from time to time you'll throw a pot chop.
Speaker 1:You used to be a Raider fan, Phil, so yeah, so I can't, but you will, you, sometimes you'll just say Jordan's the Raider hater.
Speaker 4:Like I don't know why they want a big game. Jimmy G was getting all amped up after they beat the Broncos by a point, and then they come in and just get annihilated by the bill they suck Okay.
Speaker 2:And so the.
Speaker 4:Broncos.
Speaker 3:All right All right. So do the chargers.
Speaker 5:Chargers, that whole division sucks.
Speaker 4:That's how the chiefs how do you feel about the Seahawks? We didn't get to talk about them at all today, seth, which is is a little bit of a bummer, because they ended up. They ended up winning it. Baby, let's go. And how good man, tyler Lockett, man, just give me some knuckle across the table there.
Speaker 2:There we go, so old, but so good. Yeah, he looks, he's he's feisty.
Speaker 4:All right, let's close it out with your. Michael Pittman, I think we've covered everyone, right.
Speaker 5:It will my last sit place tomorrow night.
Speaker 4:Yes.
Speaker 1:Dude.
Speaker 2:Jackson, smith and Jake.
Speaker 1:Well, it's so good today, guys, you look so good.
Speaker 5:You're trying to be funny. Oh, it's almost like you actually need reps during preseason to start the season out good.
Speaker 4:I thought oh yeah, I mean sure. Okay, keep going.
Speaker 5:I'm sorry this is so if you're trying to joke, if you're listening to the pod for the first time.
Speaker 4:we had a heated debate about three weeks ago there's two weeks ago actually where Trent said JSN was going to be slow to start.
Speaker 1:So I made him a done and said I'd put it probably pick him up off waivers.
Speaker 4:And then Jordan Seth said he was going to be totally fine, and then Trent, I think he's have fun picking him off waivers Trent when he's owned by every single person in the league.
Speaker 1:yeah, if he keeps going for five, he won't be owned by everyone in the league 11 targets in two games Like that's not bad.
Speaker 3:It's not bad at all. The first game was terrible.
Speaker 1:I actually thought DK got hurt and I was like oh, jsn probably.
Speaker 4:So, you thought you're going to have to eat your words.
Speaker 1:I thought I was.
Speaker 5:It'll probably happen, but it's okay. And the game one they were absolutely as bad. Yeah, they were.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean they were. Geno Smith came back to life today and I think that's good.
Speaker 4:He also got owned by the referee, yeah. My pitman start, did you see?
Speaker 1:that I'm talking to America right now.
Speaker 4:Yeah, he's. Geno's like trying to tell him something because he called the grounding and it wasn't grounding, but geno's like trying to get into his face and the referee is like sir, sir, I'm talking to America right now. You didn't see that?
Speaker 3:I did, but I didn't know. Just geno talking to him.
Speaker 4:Yes, I believe it was. Wasn't it geno who you?
Speaker 5:saying it to who do you think led to Seahawks and targets?
Speaker 1:I'm just looking at fantasy points, but I don't care about fantasy points.
Speaker 5:Well, if you played him on your maybe you're in a league that gets points for targets.
Speaker 4:So you're right, you can't also had six. You can't just be DK had six targets too. You can't be.
Speaker 5:Oh, so he tied for targets. Yes, he had more. Uh, no, he was finished tight for.
Speaker 4:No, sorry, lockett had 10.
Speaker 5:Okay, okay. So who led them in targets? So it's locked it. They all had six, six and 10, but, trent, you can't just be results oriented with every little thing.
Speaker 4:I think they're tied in. Actually had more targets too, Actually no, no, they're tied into not their tight game had a couple had a couple of good targets.
Speaker 5:I just knew you just can't be results oriented and just say oh, he had a bad hit. Five catches for 34 yards.
Speaker 1:You're right, that's a really good game. My bad, uh better than Jamar Chase.
Speaker 3:It was better than Jamar.
Speaker 1:Chase Dude. Jamar Chase is made, he's probably better than Michael Pittman.
Speaker 4:It was Michael, no, michael Pittman added decent when things get too heated we had. What we have to do is shake hands.
Speaker 2:So Jordan, please.
Speaker 3:No, I'm not here. He has a hand. He had better game than Calvin.
Speaker 4:Ridley.
Speaker 2:Yes, shake hands so we can move on.
Speaker 1:Michael Pittman Uh, he had nine fantasy points. I think this is a miss, so I'm going to say I went one for one for four.
Speaker 4:He had 12 targets, though, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, trent. No, here's a thing.
Speaker 5:Hey, he's had double digit targets in both games. Michael Pittman's a lot better playing PPR. Yes, that's, that looks fairly good in PPR.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I think if Richardson doesn't get hurt, maybe he has a better game Richardson actually had gardeners probably their past throw past, throw the football, mint you yeah, but the thing is he missed him. He Pittman was wide open on a fade and he just missed him. I did not watch that game.
Speaker 4:It's a Richard, he can go out completely. Yeah, concussion Mint, you's a guy, huh, he's going to start next week, let's go.
Speaker 3:They're not throwing the ball very deep with Richardson and Pittman is really good at running those like short routes and I think that's what helped him with Richardson is he's getting all those short routes in like the middle of the field for five less than five yards per target.
Speaker 1:Yeah, richardson is QB six on the season.
Speaker 4:That makes sense. I don't think it's going. You're saying it's not going to change with Mint. You, though I don't think he's going to be throwing deep downfield.
Speaker 3:I think he can more. You think he will, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Richardson. We don't know if he's going to play next week or not with I don't think he can right. I just pause a little concussion, so he went like he went, he had six completions and 17 points. So he had 56 yards rushing and he had two rushing touchdowns today. I didn't realize he had two rushing touchdowns.
Speaker 3:Yeah, one person to talk about maybe is getting Zach Moss this week.
Speaker 2:Zach Moss, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:He had a rushing touchdown, I mean, and if he doesn't play next week, we don't know. Gardener Mint, she's not going to run like.
Speaker 1:Richardson, so it didn't kill you. He didn't help when he probably didn't win you your week either, though, but he probably was your receiver. To that you drafted, or three.
Speaker 4:Yeah, so he's got a chance. It's not a short week. You're definitely not playing on Thursday night, so we're probably there's a chance that he plays. It's like a seven day window there, or six, whenever you want to call it. All right, moving on here, I think that we had Seth. You have one more start, right.
Speaker 3:Yes, I had. My start was juju. This one was just a flat out miss. I mean, he had six targets. I mean five receptions for 28 yards. I don't think any receiver on the team if I'm looking at it right Demonte Parker he had six for 57. I mean the Patriots didn't look that good. And then Trent said also after we had talked already someone posted on Twitter that he was. They thought he was like the fifth best receiver on the team or something.
Speaker 5:Well, well. The other problem was that Devon's Parker was supposed to miss the game.
Speaker 3:Don't do. Parker did play. Yeah, you're right. And then he led the team in receiving, did you?
Speaker 1:see that tweet. It was like Ari or whatever. Someone said like my rovers coming out of Patriots. You know camp was juju's the fifth best receiver on the team, but he's the highest paid.
Speaker 5:Well, he also can't move, Like they're saying that he has a really bad knee problems or is a year back, or something.
Speaker 3:They said it was a knee, but what I read before was he's saying he he feels his knees at 100%. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm going to say that most people who listen to the pod and play fantasy football probably saw that stuff and probably, hopefully, didn't play him after they saw that. Yeah, that's what I'm hoping.
Speaker 3:Well, I think it would take the L on it.
Speaker 5:Forget about the whatever tweet that was. I think it's more about Devon's. Parker came back, so more than anything else Parker only had eight fantasy points. Yeah, but targets wise and just the role in the offense and routes.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I guess.
Speaker 5:I think he was in there. He played the whole game, I think.
Speaker 1:Is that all our starts and sits?
Speaker 4:No, we had. We talked about miles and miles and it's place. Yeah.
Speaker 1:So what did we go on the week here?
Speaker 4:So, I did. We touch on a little bit. I went to tomorrow.
Speaker 1:So we're good. I'm going to say I went one for four.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I say two for me to four.
Speaker 1:Jordan, you went two for three.
Speaker 5:Two for three, nice, so that's good, and you may, you may go, I may go, you may run, it may go. Three and one In the double header tomorrow.
Speaker 1:Yeah yeah, raheem had a decent, he had that big run right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we talk about. We talk about most of it.
Speaker 4:Yeah, we definitely did.
Speaker 2:All right.
Speaker 4:Do you want to get a divas? Where are we going? No, I just what, what, what is your week.
Speaker 1:Jordan kind of brought this up last week. What's kind of been your biggest surprise week two weeks into the NFL season?
Speaker 5:This is harder for week two.
Speaker 1:Mine would be two and one. Yeah, I didn't think they'd beat the Packers. The real deal. Bejohn looks like the real power.
Speaker 5:That split actually felt like he was a little bit different.
Speaker 1:They're saying that Bijan's probably going to lead the NFL and Miss tackles like forcing Miss tackles.
Speaker 4:Oh, he had one, a nasty one, yeah, like he's just 19 attempts, 124 rushing yards.
Speaker 1:I don't know what it doesn't.
Speaker 4:How's your at 16?
Speaker 5:So I mean, it wasn't that far behind.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 4:I just think what's his receiving, what's the receiving on that?
Speaker 1:Oh, he only had five out here, had no targets receiving, though, and B John had four catches, oh, algear.
Speaker 5:Algear season 48.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no touch Showns B.
Speaker 4:John had no touch Showns either 6.53 yards per carry, 19 carries 125 yards, get after it.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 4:So B John, no TD, though, a little frustrating.
Speaker 3:Bijan looks good. Ritter red Rennemann.
Speaker 1:Ritter, yeah, and that was a comeback win. Were they down by 10?
Speaker 5:Yeah.
Speaker 1:That was a comeback win and Ritter was just checking up yellow balls to Mack Hollins, the one guy I didn't think you would check yellow balls up to. I thought Mack Hollins had a touchdown catch in that game. I don't know how you overturn that.
Speaker 5:They got called incomplete on the field or got called touchdown on the field.
Speaker 1:I think it got called. I wasn't watching that with the same. Whatever, I think it got called incomplete. And that's what's tough, is asset, conclusive evidence, but it looked like his heels clearly touched after he caught the ball, so I was surprised he didn't get that. But yeah, I think Falcons are one of the biggest surprises. I kind of had been have been beaten the Falcons drum all off season. I didn't think they'd win today, though, and I'd say Jordan loves a decent surprise, right, did he have a?
Speaker 5:Okay, he kind of sucked.
Speaker 1:He's just getting touchdowns, but he's getting touchdowns but he's not getting the yard. So he had 20 fantasy points today, Jordan, so it's not bad.
Speaker 4:John who Smith had more receptions and yards and cow pits.
Speaker 5:Yeah, it sucks.
Speaker 4:Yeah, sorry, I stopped your train there. Go ahead and talk a little bit more about Jordan, love.
Speaker 1:He's QB five on the season so far and what's your? Surprise.
Speaker 5:The Falcons, I'd say.
Speaker 1:Falcons being two and oh, it'd be a surprise and the bangles being going to.
Speaker 5:That's not as surprising to me, Honestly.
Speaker 1:they usually start slow anyways and two divisional games back to back. Yeah, burrow was saying, his calf hurts.
Speaker 5:Yeah, he'll be fine. Um oops. So we don't think he'll be fine. I hope he gets fine, soon, he's not going to miss games. I should.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like I don't think if you drafted Joe Burrow you'd say he's fine right now, like what he's killing me and some stuff, jamar. Chase especially he had 17 points today. Which was that was doable? Burrow didn't kill you today. No, he didn't. Last week he did. Uh, you just need those calf injuries. They just don't go away unless you don't do anything. And the fact that it's re aggravated.
Speaker 4:It concerns me, and it's not even a bi week scenario, like you have to not do something yet. No, bi week till week seven. Yeah, you're not now you're own to.
Speaker 1:They would have been better off, like what Chase said, sitting out the first four games and maybe go one and three than oh and two, and he re aggravates it.
Speaker 4:But what sounds like he did.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So I don't like I think he's going to play, but just it's a long season to have that. Uh, other surprises, kind of I think you could say Puka Jordan.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You don't think that's a big surprise, but what about the?
Speaker 5:uh, I had him as my start, so I would be surprised.
Speaker 1:I'm just saying like for the whole season, I don't know.
Speaker 5:Well, I would say a week, two or the whole season, like it's kind of like hey, this is just your question that I'm. No, I'm clarifying though training clarifies a week, two or um. I'll say the most surprising thing today for me was how much the Cardinals are actually trying to lose, like yeah, do you think they like was it 21? zero, it was 28 to like seven or whatever Like like. I mean, I was really happy because I had the giants and survivor and so I have all my survivor teams through two weeks, but, um, so you think they're just throwing it was 28 to seven at one point I don't think so, but man, like that was a crazy game. The giant scored 24 points in the last 18 minutes of the game.
Speaker 3:Yeah, really salvaged my Daniel Jones quarterback though. Yeah, it was just they did not look good at first.
Speaker 5:The Cardinals do not want to win. I'm pretty confident that also. I think the most other surprise in the most surprising game for me today was the lion's yawks game. I'm shocked that they beat the sea. Ox. Be the lions on the road. What?
Speaker 1:Yes, that was shot. That one was shocking to me. You see the sea hawks, guys wearing masks in the game.
Speaker 5:After the game the locker didn't fire it up Like that was. That was crazy.
Speaker 1:I'm trying to find who Daniel Jones on the week it's. Daniel Jones was QB1 this week time make her cousin. That's what I was looking in.
Speaker 4:What is the? What does it look like? She's just the last two games. What does that look like?
Speaker 1:Do you want to guess who QB3 was this week? Jordan Baker, russell Wilson. Maybe this is just because the league I'm in might have some bonus points or something, but he had 56 rushing yards and he threw for. He got that bonus three, yeah, three here and eight rushing, oh he got the 40 plus bonus, okay.
Speaker 5:So, yeah, maybe that's just two or three.
Speaker 1:I run as just be to the leak we're in that put him there. I Don't know, seth, anything that's surprising you I.
Speaker 3:Was gonna say puka, but I mean, I guess Maybe the amount like this there's a ton of injuries this year, but maybe again it's just I'm just thinking about it. But meet, there's injuries every year, but maybe I'm just Thinking there's more than this year, than there was at the beginning of last year. I think there was a lot of like maybe higher profile guys being injured, like starting the season then Then maybe last year like there more injuries in preseason or stuff like that.
Speaker 4:So Jordan loves. Not surprising, did you guys say that. How well he's taken you listen to anything.
Speaker 3:We did talk about my apologies.
Speaker 4:I was doing some research on something entirely different.
Speaker 5:What's your most surprising thing? I?
Speaker 4:was gonna say Jordan.
Speaker 1:I kind of threw him in as an honorable mention, but yeah, he's got three TDs, no interceptions.
Speaker 4:I think that's a pretty.
Speaker 5:I did not expect him to also tripped over himself trying to snap the ball.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I mean, I've seen you.
Speaker 1:The See me?
Speaker 4:you saw me running, did I trip?
Speaker 1:No what about the Patriots lateral tonight to the line for the first down.
Speaker 4:That was pretty good, I think the most surprising thing for me over the weekend was the Colorado Colorado State game and that's not even NFL related, but that was crazy.
Speaker 5:Um, yeah, I mean, that game was whatever.
Speaker 1:Do you want to get in the Divas?
Speaker 5:No, no, no, we got one more question, trent. Okay, yes, yes, but also I think I was. Honestly, the most surprising thing for me was the dichotomy of the scoring between week one and week two.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I went up.
Speaker 5:Oh it's crazy. Yeah, every game, I think, went over the total, except for the Jaguar chiefs.
Speaker 1:It takes about four weeks, they say, for the unit for the offense to get clicking.
Speaker 5:But I mean we went from like horrible games so like I think I don't know if the Buffalo Vegas went over that total, but I think Philadelphia, minnesota did Baltimore, since he did Charter Tennessee did the Green Bay, atlanta. I Think every game went over there went over the total, even the Jets Dallas game. That total is in the 30s. Oh so the Miami New England game, jaguar chiefs game, only two games and the Jaguar chief game was like the one game I think everyone thought would go over the total and it didn't yeah.
Speaker 4:What about the utilization of the tight end? Is that surprising you Like that? It's more? I think it's more. Really, I Truthfully think it's more like how many tight ends are getting, how much they're spreading it around a different tight ends are catching touchdowns this year, that's what there.
Speaker 3:There's a, there's a lot of tie-in play.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah I.
Speaker 4:Like uh see, I surprised you right now.
Speaker 5:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Hunter Henry was tight in two on the week. At the list I'm looking at, hawkinson was 25.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Hawkinson had a there's a lot of tight-end touch on this week at least, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, ferguson, knox.
Speaker 5:Yeah, Hawkinson had to Henry'd one Andrews one shoemaker. Kelsey one. Logan Thomas one. Kylin Granson one like wall or no TV, but 76 yards Shoemaker, schoonmaker, a man, the Cowboys should you to tie in touch.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I just loves tight ends.
Speaker 5:Okay, trent, who is the most hurtful for you today?
Speaker 1:most hurtful. I forgot about this one. Um Just looking at my team.
Speaker 5:It could be anything. It could be your wallet, could be your wallet, your team. Yeah, who? Who killed like, who hurt you?
Speaker 1:today. Let me check my Go back. Should we go, I would say Trevor Lawrence probably hurt my team, or Ridley.
Speaker 5:Those are the guys that hurt me the most probably not as much as they hurt me, but yeah.
Speaker 1:Javante Williams. Really, you know, he just 12 carries, 44 yards Versus Washington. I thought he'd have a little better game than that, especially with how they got the lead. You Know, see who else I got in here.
Speaker 5:It's supposed to be one guy, trent, not five guys.
Speaker 1:Yeah, then I would say Trevor Lawrence. I'm gonna lose a matchup because of Trevor Lawrence. I would say, guy care about.
Speaker 5:Mine was 100% Calvin Ridley, but like I know it's also probably Seth, so but yeah, I that's fine.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah he killed me.
Speaker 5:I had him in almost every one of my main teams for DFS so it was not fun. Yeah, most of that whole game. Honestly, that that whole game was the most hurtful, just because I had a ton of it and In all my lineups, so it was.
Speaker 1:I gotta remember this question so I can prep myself better too.
Speaker 5:It's always easier for me just because I think I probably like there's always guys that I yeah but I'm gonna say Patrick Mahomes the whole game. Honestly, it was literally the whole entire game, because I had so much of that game in DFS and it just busted and it Sucks. So I say mine honestly, honestly, I probably have done this yeah.
Speaker 4:Dalvin cook. I started and I sat master most hurt.
Speaker 5:Dalvin cook had negative is a negative one point and I I, honestly was like I should have started mustard, if you would have asked me who to start, I would have said no, I know, I it was a wrong decision to make, and I did it in haste and it makes me so mad.
Speaker 4:It's a in haste, it's one of those most frustrating situations like that, so I swapped them too, like it's not something that was set. Do you get what I'm saying? Yeah, it is, yeah.
Speaker 5:Mistake all right, seth most most hurtful, was it also ridley for you?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I would have made quite a bit of money today for the hit the line.
Speaker 5:So I'm gonna say that yeah, ridley was a man, he was. He was hurtful day.
Speaker 4:I wish you could play the Johnny Cash in trowing that segment. Oh, actually, sorry, it's not, it's. I think it's a nine inch nail song that Johnny Cash covered. It's a little bit better. You ever heard that song? I hurt myself today. Oh, it's a great song. Yeah, it's not kids. Yeah, the last song you ever did right? I think it's actually Johnny Cash is covering a nine-inch nail song.
Speaker 1:And I don't think he let his wife listen to it till after he passed away.
Speaker 4:Oh, really, yeah, it's really good Johnny Cash, so I guess a good one, yeah, all right. Moving on divas. Are we doing divas, you see? Yeah, we can do some divas here.
Speaker 1:I'm just trying to see if other people got hurt by similar like. You talk about good tight end games. George Kittle three catches, 30 yards, you know. So we named a bunch of guys that had way better games. And George Kittle Um, yeah, we can move over to divas. I have a diva.
Speaker 4:Hit it, let's hear it.
Speaker 1:Okay, my diva the week is Quarterbacks that when they kneel they run around, then kneel.
Speaker 2:I feel like running out.
Speaker 1:I feel like you should have to kneel right when you get it, not like run backwards or left and right, like like the Florida quarterback this week. He ran around and he didn't go backwards, he like rolled out then kneeled, like I think you're kind of putting yourself out there as a Ball carrier and then you're gonna kneel and it caused a huge fight. Yeah, he got popped right after he kneeled. Did you see it, jordan?
Speaker 5:For a quarter. I didn't see that for the quarter. Is that game in the game? In the game, I was mad. I Tennessee to parlay and he lost.
Speaker 1:I turned that huge huge like fight after because he got hit it wasn't Scrap City, it was a guy squared up.
Speaker 4:Yeah, after that one, they're like about to square it's like a DB and a lineman, like basically putting their feet in the dirt, like which I don't blame them.
Speaker 1:The guy did kind of pop the quarterback, but I'm also like hey, big game, you had the upset like just kneel, like don't roll out right then, then take a.
Speaker 5:Well, you know why some of that thing is right? Because they need to get the timing right. Yeah, so don't have to kneel again.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think that you should just have to kneel, though, or expect.
Speaker 3:Run backwards.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I Don't know, I think the kneel is. I think if you take a step, your live game, I don't think you should be able to run around then kneel. But yeah, maybe if you do.
Speaker 4:don't get all chippy when you get up like and it wasn't like he tackled him, he bumped him, it wasn't like a it wasn't a Jordan.
Speaker 1:No, no, I'm not, so it was a good fight. So I mind just quarterbacks that don't just properly kneel. That's what I'm saying. Is anyone else have a dinner this week?
Speaker 5:I Kind of it's not very good though, so I wouldn't even go to say it, let's hear yeah. I don't know how applicable it is to normal people, but like I, was that a shocker. I was that I. Was that um I? Went to like a fall basketball tournament yesterday and I was just watching, we weren't playing and it's, it's. They go sidecourt in the gym and so there's not, there's not really stands right. So, yeah, everyone's got seen like we're, and so I was sitting along the baseline Like does the basket and against the wall and so there's not a lot of room there, right, and they're inbounding right there and like just people's impatience, like I guess people, people who are impatient, is like my diva. Like People were walking, like they're the guys inbounding. I'm sitting people trying to walk, like right behind them as they're inbounding, and said just like, just wait, like 30 seconds.
Speaker 1:Oh, I think they're interrupting the game.
Speaker 5:They're like trying to walk while the refs trying to give the ball the player to inbound. It's like people just wait 30 seconds until the balls less than probably probably less than that To the balls on the other side of the court. Yeah, instead of making the ref wait for you to walk by, like like we get it, it's packed in here, just wait a little bit. Like people's impatience, I think, is like.
Speaker 4:People's impatience. And also those are the same people that when you're taking a family photo or something, they walk right in front. Yes, it's like that, hey, like that's such an amateur move.
Speaker 1:Go in the back in photo bomb. I honestly that's the biggest thing, that's the biggest thing that the digital cameras ruin the photo bomb game Absolutely killed it.
Speaker 4:No, but it's terrible. Just like, hey, take a second and just pause, like I can almost guarantee if you're in the exact same place I am, you are not as important.
Speaker 1:You know how many pictures I am in at Disneyland. You know like Predigital camera era of just straight-up photo bombing stuff, you mean like the disposables it's. I'm in the background of so many pictures, just probably every like just yeah, just nobody. I'm in so many pictures, like just of people. I don't know, seth, what do you got?
Speaker 3:I don't have anything Seth come on I don't have any playing footsies with me?
Speaker 4:Watch your feet there Seth.
Speaker 5:You have anything Phil.
Speaker 4:I'm trying to think, I think the I it's not a diva, because this is like I'm just. I'm just Ridiculous for going to sleep early, but these late college football games packed 12 after dark is terrible.
Speaker 1:I.
Speaker 5:I don't mind. I'm usually up that way on a Saturday night anyways, doing NFL research. So so what?
Speaker 4:time do you draw the line? Because it was like halftime and it was like 915 for the Colorado, colorado State game.
Speaker 5:I mean I'm not going to bed till 11 30 minute Saturday night, but like it's part of the reason.
Speaker 1:Christian McCaffrey, you didn't get the Heisman. Yeah, voters don't stay up to watch those games. No, toby Gerhardt, I visited last night.
Speaker 5:I bet everyone stayed up to watch. I called out a game last night. I've, I went to see what I was 1727. Your Heisman voter.
Speaker 1:You're probably like I'm just gonna go to bed.
Speaker 5:I think you're underestimating the deon factor.
Speaker 4:I went to bed when it was 1727 and I was embarrassed to wake up to find out that they won, like I had watched the majority of the game. What time we go to sleep? It was 1015 when I was asleep. Did you just stay up for the rest of the game?
Speaker 1:I bet you he's not alone Like that, that game. You do that game at 12 o'clock on Saturday. Its numbers are even bigger, or five? Yeah no, the pack 12 after dark thing was not a good move and I saw a bunch of tweets to like everybody thought it was cool, bring the pack 12 into the big 10, until they realized how late these games go because they just don't do that over there, like well, I know that I mean Trent.
Speaker 5:Most pack 12 games are at seven o'clock at night, pacific time, which is nine o'clock.
Speaker 1:On the east coast it's 10 o'clock, but yeah, but they play games at seven o'clock on the east coast it's like they don't play at the same time. It's a different time zone.
Speaker 4:Not really, though Not as much Like who named one recently.
Speaker 5:Every single like five o'clock game is at eight o'clock over there.
Speaker 4:Yeah, but it's not a set, yet it's. That's drastically different.
Speaker 5:No, the Florida Tennessee game started at four o'clock Pacific time. Seven o'clock.
Speaker 4:Seven o'clock over there, no but the.
Speaker 5:Colorado Colorado State. Game started at seven o'clock Pacific time 10 o'clock over there. Yeah, but it's still. It's still seven, eight o'clock in your region where the game is happening.
Speaker 3:The game ended at close to around 1130 last night or whatever night it was last night 1130. Okay, that means it was 2 30am. If you're living in, we're talking about nation, no no, we're talking about nation I ball 12.
Speaker 4:This is not your city, and no, your.
Speaker 5:Your point was is that they're mad because of how like the games go? The game start the same time, just in different time zones?
Speaker 4:No, no, I agree with you that, but it's a game like that. You don't think everyone in the nation wants to watch that game and so what's the time you have to play at?
Speaker 5:started at five, that's eight, I'm fine. Four PST right, okay, but that's yeah, you're still. The game's not getting done till 10 o'clock.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, but that's different. That's better than the morning.
Speaker 5:Yes, I think you guys underestimate how, like how many people watch.
Speaker 1:There's people that have said they didn't vote for Christian McCaffrey to win the Heisman because these games were too late at night. Do you think those people act?
Speaker 5:like. Those are not voters. Yes, they're not college football fans, they're media who?
Speaker 1:don't watch games. If I have to go to church on Sunday or anything on Sunday, I'm not going to stay up till 2am to watch a football game.
Speaker 5:We're now getting the weeds out.
Speaker 1:I don't know, I'm saying you're the, you're the unusual one probably, who's like if you, that's the up till 10, 30, 11, a Saturday night.
Speaker 4:How are we?
Speaker 5:I'm talking about East Coast. I understand that, but like I think the media okay one Heisman voters don't watch football games because the media is a joke, so I'm not even gonna. But they do vote for the Heisman, okay, well, who cares? Like the commissioners of the conference don't care, they care about TV numbers. Plenty of people are up at 2am on a Saturday, saturday night, not as much as a club Like they're not.
Speaker 1:I'm telling you, like Jordan, you're not going to have people over to your house to watch a football game that ends at 2 in the morning.
Speaker 5:Do you understand how normal it is on the East Coast, fights, ufc fights every single Saturday. Go till that time on a Saturday night. You live on the East Coast, you're a sports fan, you're going to be up If there's bass it's a terrible life NBA games you lose.
Speaker 3:Casual NBA games started 10pm.
Speaker 5:Like, but also the casual on the East Coast are watching East Coast teams.
Speaker 1:I'm just telling you this is really bad for Pat the Pac 12. I don't know what they're going to do. Maybe they don't do that. They might tell the Pat. They might tell USC, like, hey, we'll play there, but you have to start your games at 5pm Pacific time. You're not starting at 7pm.
Speaker 5:No, they won't, because they want those TV and they want that. That's the whole point of having the West Coast teams. Is that get they, get those network spots. They have teams in the late night games.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay, I don't. I think you could blow it up more if you did it earlier, but maybe I'm wrong, but there's already people who are watching in those time segments because of all the teams on the East Coast.
Speaker 4:Yeah, but you you want to have the team you want to watch. Do you get what I'm saying?
Speaker 5:Like, I'm just saying they can start a little bit earlier. I think you guys us to underestimate how many people are up watching.
Speaker 1:I just saw what I saw on Twitter of people on the East Coast going like this is going like this is terrible. How late this game is All.
Speaker 3:I know is the national. Those are casual sports fans.
Speaker 1:I don't think that people on.
Speaker 3:Twitter does not start at 7pm. Uh uh, pc Pacific time. Yeah, it is not sure at 7pm.
Speaker 5:That's a whole. That's a whole. That's a bad comparison.
Speaker 4:What is the national champion set? That's actually the national championship game.
Speaker 3:If it's played on the West Coast, it's not playing at 7pm Pacific time.
Speaker 1:It was at four this year, yeah.
Speaker 3:It's at four, because that's how you get.
Speaker 5:Yeah, but we're talking about a normal Saturday. They have to fill time slots on network TV. No, yes.
Speaker 4:But if you're choosing a time slot on network TV and it's going to be a big game you still again want the most eyeballs on that game. Play it at a time where everyone's going to watch it.
Speaker 5:I mean they also do these schedules way in advance, for anyone knew that Colorado was a fair point.
Speaker 4:I agree with that.
Speaker 1:That's why you should keep the TBD on there.
Speaker 5:I'm sure, like Tennessee Florida. I'd be curious the numbers are on Tennessee Florida compared to Colorado Colorado state.
Speaker 4:That game got done, though I think I think everyone's watching Colorado, colorado state right.
Speaker 5:I mean. I might be watching Colorado. What's the numbers on color? That's what I'm actually curious. It's not worth looking up right now.
Speaker 1:I think that kind of does it, though, guys, I'll be back on Tuesday with a waiver wire pod, so you don't want to miss that A little bit of a college football talk here today, but it was a fun show, feels looking at the numbers.
Speaker 4:No, no, no, no, no. This was 8.7 million viewers watch Colorado. Defeat Nebraska. How many viewers watch Colorado?
Speaker 2:state.
Speaker 4:I'm so excited 16 million combined viewers.
Speaker 5:Yep, that late night really hurt the viewership.
Speaker 1:Yeah, probably it'd been way more though earlier, I think, jordan.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I would have been in the 20s if it started three hours earlier. Yeah, you guys.
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