Week 1 Recap, Waivers and Biggest NFL Surprises
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Speaker 1:What is up, my dudes? This is Trent with the Fantasy Football Dudes podcast. I am joined by Phil Jordan and a special guest, phil, on the podcast today.
Speaker 3:Guys, you said Phil twice. Did I say Phil twice? I don't think you said Seth, you're just so giddy because I'm back.
Speaker 4:You didn't say yourself, Trent.
Speaker 1:I didn't say myself and myself, Trent Are you giddy, because I'm back.
Speaker 3:Did you say bringing?
Speaker 1:what back? No, I'm just kidding, I don't know. I'm just, I'm in a, I'm in a fad. If I always just go left or right like that, I believe I used to try.
Speaker 3:You're in a zesty mood when we first started the pod.
Speaker 1:I tried to like switch it up, like, oh, I'm going to say Jordan first, so I'm going to say, you know, phil first.
Speaker 3:Just so no one gets offended.
Speaker 1:I thought that. Then I said you know what this is too much for me to comprehend.
Speaker 4:Last time you even said like most things wasn't here.
Speaker 1:That was just to tease people. You know people like rage turned it off the finalist there.
Speaker 5:then they're like oh, he was on, ok, I'll listen, you know just to defend Phil's honor, for like missing the last month of pods, people were sad he wasn't on the live.
Speaker 1:I know oh, really that's where he thrives, but yeah, true.
Speaker 3:That's hey, seth. You know what Can? I can have a little bit of love. Thank you for saying that, seth.
Speaker 5:People miss you, Phil, but for not good reason.
Speaker 2:Like been on the live you know.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 4:I know I at least been the chat like come on.
Speaker 1:Who would you leave of the week? People who don't use calendars and double, triple book themselves Can we agree with that.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it's, true, yeah sure.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Google Calendar, great app I've come to find that when you have you have, like you keep having children it becomes more and more difficult to manage your schedule. Do you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1:It's true. No, I agree with that. But that's why I need to become like that's not a sponsor. Google Calendar really helps me out. My wife, can you know, populate my calendar and I know what I'm doing that night. Or I can be like, hey, I have a live she, you have a work calendar.
Speaker 3:I do have a work calendar. I should probably, I should probably put it on there, right? Is that what you're saying? Just put on your work calendar.
Speaker 5:Yeah, it'd be better.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no, you're right, I have I. Sometimes I'll forget that I have a haircut scheduled and so that's what I started doing, just throwing it on my work.
Speaker 1:Oh no, I do. I do the same thing, no like if I don't have. I never was one of those people like in school, like, hey, I'm going to use the planner calendar they used to give you. What did you do in school? I got by, ok, I got by School, hard knocks, anyways, but what I'm saying is is the calendar on my phone? I don't know how I functioned without that.
Speaker 3:How do you like?
Speaker 1:I have a no Google Calendar, I've said it twice no sponsor the pop.
Speaker 3:You said it was on your phone. So yeah, you just like the average one that you get on there, that one's not good, I wouldn't use it.
Speaker 1:I have a reminder on my calendar every week to put my recyclables. It's good to be clear, though, Phil tell us about what you're going to do. You did one cool thing since you've been gone. We'll give you two minutes.
Speaker 2:This is embarrassing.
Speaker 1:It's week one. We're a little frustrated. We have some tilts. You know people have been calling us out about Skymore. You know Canary's Tony Chief stuff. So, phil, just your quick. What are you? What was the one thing you did? That was really crazy.
Speaker 2:That you wanted to talk about two weeks ago.
Speaker 1:Why didn't I come? You're on vacation. Then you had work. Then you had a scrimmage for a soccer game.
Speaker 3:That's true, I had work. Yeah, so I was at work, but one of the probably the coolest thing that's ever happened to me and I probably shouldn't be asking people who have, and it's not even that cool. I probably shouldn't be asking people who have golf memberships at golf courses, but I got dangerously close to a hole in one and I am not a good golfer. Ok, what par was it? It was a par three.
Speaker 4:I was shooting from the par three course or an actual course.
Speaker 3:It was an actual golf course. It was out in Texas, my brother and I, every once in a while when we get together, which is not a lot because he doesn't live in the same state but we'll play a round of golf, just not, actually, not even not around. We'll play nine holes, ok, just to get out there, get on the links. It is blistering hot in Texas, right, and I don't know if it was the Texas heat or what it was that warned me of the jeans that you were wearing. I was wearing shorts this time, but the main problem was is that set that was a good one? Is that I didn't. I didn't think that we were going to be playing golf, so I was wearing a Hawaiian shirt and vans. But hear me out, a guy pitched a no no in vans, like a couple days before, so I felt a little bit more confident walking on the links.
Speaker 5:I don't think that was a couple, that was like a month ago.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I was gone two weeks ago.
Speaker 5:That was like over a month. Phil has had a hard time keeping up with sports, like he asked us on.
Speaker 1:Saturday, if we knew, call it out of his ring so like, yeah, he's any hat. No, no, that's not what I said.
Speaker 3:Anyhow, we're on par three.
Speaker 4:I just feel was actually an Antarctic.
Speaker 3:Anyhow, I just hit, I just blistered this ball like I was, just like it was. It was same blistering.
Speaker 4:blister like it is, it is just. Is that a thing? What were?
Speaker 1:you using? We're using a pitching wedge, we're using a seven. Do you know? I teed up with an eight.
Speaker 3:I teed up with an eight. I teed up with an eight Game. It all you got, no.
Speaker 5:I wanted to actually hit it on his back swing. He's like oh.
Speaker 3:I hate that. You're actually funny, this pond.
Speaker 2:Because, he has hit the windmill that it builds back.
Speaker 4:Oh, this is so stupid. I was going to mention it was mini golf Part three. Mini golf guys.
Speaker 5:It explains why you'd be wearing a Vans in a Hawaiian shirt.
Speaker 3:Anyhow, the guy that we were with. He said that is the closest I've ever seen to seeing someone get a hole in one, and I was like it was probably. I ended up birding it as you, I'm clutch. Clutch over consistency is what they say about me, and I, I, and which leads into my La Porta, take.
Speaker 4:Hold on before you do. The La Porta Define define almost a hole in one.
Speaker 3:So I I like how far. I'll show you, I'll show you, I'll pull it up and you guys can, you guys can say, I will say it was probably seven yards.
Speaker 1:No, stupidity, stupidity.
Speaker 3:Okay, this is how this is pretty close.
Speaker 5:That's pretty close. That's pretty close, it's pretty.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that doesn't help.
Speaker 4:It's probably about it's about it like a foot away less, less, no, it's, it's about a foot.
Speaker 2:That's about it.
Speaker 1:Well yeah, I was, I was, I was probably I couldn't measure, because if he would have walked there it would have messed up his line and then he would have been, I told this story a couple of months ago.
Speaker 5:Like uh, I went golfing for this charity for the local high school wrestling.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 4:And he's the deposit. And it was underdog count. Yeah, it was underdog charity.
Speaker 5:Um, and I almost had a hole in one, but the reason why it did not go in was because my nephew, who was golfing in the party in front of me, crushed up Cheetos and sprinkled them around the hole, oh my and I'm not kidding. The ball bounced differently after it hit the Cheeto Like it bounced and it was going to bounce again and then roll in like it. It was clear as day. Clear as day. It wasn't a hole in one, but it would have been like an eagle. It was on my second shot.
Speaker 3:Oh, it was a. It was a, oh, okay.
Speaker 5:It was a par four. The story's got the story's that's significantly less interesting.
Speaker 3:I mean Seth's nephew.
Speaker 1:he's like one of those guys that just walks through with hot Cheetos and Mountain Dew the kid's wild man.
Speaker 5:He dumps them around the hole because he knows I'm about a chip, you know that's a party. Yeah Unbelievable.
Speaker 1:All right, let's get into week one. It's a. It was a rough week, should I?
Speaker 3:get into my La Porta take, though the guy had like six catches.
Speaker 4:So what's your take?
Speaker 1:What do you want to say about La Porta? And you did say that he'd be good.
Speaker 3:I did say I did say he was going to be good and we I feel like we felt pretty confident that the lines were going to use him. I was talking to Trent and I think that what I should do at some point is say, like if I'm going to give a take that I feel like is going to be good, we should suggest it but say that like you need some insurance around this. Like like shot in the dark, take what?
Speaker 4:was his stat line fill.
Speaker 3:I think he had six receptions or at least six targets.
Speaker 4:And five catches. For how many yards?
Speaker 3:69, 68. He's 39 yards.
Speaker 4:He was like had two touchdowns and eight catches, and second coming.
Speaker 3:What was his?
Speaker 4:adot.
Speaker 1:Well, here's the, here's the deal, his take was better than his.
Speaker 5:Adot was definitely not high because he had a long of 14. The one reception was 14 yards half of his yards clutch over consistency no like he was fine, but you're acting like he was like awesome.
Speaker 3:He's better in sky more, though I'll give you that for a rookie tied in, to come out and get that many targets in their first game, I would say is like somewhat surprising.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know it was the most receptions by a rookie tied in.
Speaker 2:Thank, you, TJ Hawkinson. Thank you, Trent.
Speaker 3:So people did make a big deal about that, right? Did that get brought up on the commentating? Yeah, it was worth noting.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was worth noting.
Speaker 1:Thank you.
Speaker 2:So since the last I was tied in to come out, that's right.
Speaker 4:Yep.
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Speaker 4:to do you guys next time. Can I just see next time you want to use adot as a transition? You know you should transition to what maybe an underdog or sleeper promo? Yeah well, there's always next time.
Speaker 5:I'm just trying to think what adot has anything to do with it. No, you could have used the underdog or sleeper Clean your adot.
Speaker 3:I don't know what that is, I just like his last transition that he did, the big transition that we were all like laughing at. Do you remember when he trained? Did that transition?
Speaker 4:He transitioned last week, I can't remember three weeks ago.
Speaker 3:Remember when he transitioned last week, when he did the You're a wild.
Speaker 4:He did that.
Speaker 3:No, when he was like, when he was like, what did you, what were you saying? You kept saying like he kept shaved, shaved. He's like you probably could have shaved a couple off. And he kept saying it like three or four times. Then he's like yeah, so stupid. Let's jump into our. That was a good transition for what it's worth.
Speaker 1:We got our starts of the week. You want to do some headlines from the game today, things that surprised you. You wanted to recap starts and sits real quick, kind of defend our honor.
Speaker 4:We can recap our starts and sits.
Speaker 1:All right, my start.
Speaker 4:I forgot what he had. I usually take these.
Speaker 3:I usually take these.
Speaker 1:This is usually how it goes, we kind of learned to do this pod without you, unfortunately.
Speaker 3:So Trent starts where Tyler Higby, davonta Smith, jordan starts where Skymore and Cam Acres, seth starts where Cadarius Tony and Jameer Gibbs, and then, if we want to talk about our sits, trent sat. No, let's just let us get Okay, so we want to talk about the starts a little bit, trent starts again. Tyler Higby and Davonta Smith.
Speaker 1:I thought that Tyler Higby would absorb a lot of those targets. Puka went off to do out well and to to. Finally, you know I've been, I've had to two for a couple of years and sometimes he likes I think I dropped him this offseason.
Speaker 4:He's been Jefferson's dead.
Speaker 1:Van Jefferson.
Speaker 3:Yeah, rip Van, he's still there, he's still around, yeah.
Speaker 1:What else do we? Got here so. I thought Higby would have a decent game. Do we want to recap that game Any other than?
Speaker 4:that here's my problem. I think Higby just dead. He's old.
Speaker 1:I think so.
Speaker 4:He's like on his way to his coffin.
Speaker 1:Like no more dead. Takes on this.
Speaker 5:It's very possible that Higby only had a good game. He's 30.
Speaker 4:He's 30 years old.
Speaker 3:He is 30 years old.
Speaker 4:He feels like he's way older, doesn't he, though?
Speaker 5:Yeah, it's very possible. Higby only had a good game because they played the Seahawks, whose secondary was awful.
Speaker 4:Yeah, he had a good game, he had points.
Speaker 1:No, he had six points.
Speaker 4:Sorry, six point four. Yeah, the point nine I got from Isaiah likely. Yeah, yeah, that's unlikely as a uh, and then you and then he had Devonta Smith, which was a good.
Speaker 3:I would say there was a, that was a good, that was a.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so he kind of started kind of shaky. He's got a touch down.
Speaker 3:Did you say you you meant Devonta Smith?
Speaker 1:I see you have Deandre Swift up, that you have Devonta Smith, okay, perfect for Devonta Smith and he was kind of Squared a touch down early and then he turned it on the second half.
Speaker 4:Got up 16. Oh and then. But I think the problem with that in hindsight trend is like the Patriots are probably just not a team you really want to attack in general.
Speaker 1:No defense, look good like yeah.
Speaker 3:And then we can move over, we can kick it over it. I mean, jordan, do you want to talk about?
Speaker 4:No, like Skymore sucks like I. I mean honestly I thought that he wasn't as bad as Tony. I thought Mahomes on down a couple times. I thought the one he was probably gonna have a 30 yard, maybe four, I don't know. He might have caught that ran if if Mahomes gives him a good throw down the middle of the field.
Speaker 2:He dropped a couple.
Speaker 4:I Mean it just they didn't you like he didn't wasn't targeted, like, so I don't know if it's just like Not good, like that be got. I almost like want to go back and like watch watch only his route running, like is he, as you open and and Mahomes not seen him? Or is he not getting open? I don't really know, but I was wrong. Pay the price.
Speaker 1:You think he's struggling with like separation or something?
Speaker 4:Yeah, I'm saying like I wish I could see, like you know, like the only, like only watching him, like the whole. You know the, the field view camera, which I think you can if you do, like the NFL, there's a what package you can buy from NFL to see that. But I, I don't know, just, I was just wrong, I was wrong about it. It cost me.
Speaker 3:So I mean the, the, your reaction on the live stream were pretty good, though I did catch some of those.
Speaker 4:Oh, what to which part?
Speaker 3:Just a variety of different one where you're just oofing and offing, just like just cheese off, just yeah, cheese right off. Do you go into camera, acres?
Speaker 4:So the acres thing interesting. No one I was wrong about I. It's probably gonna cost me because I have a lot of him in best fall. I have a lot of him just in season long. I want my main season long teams. He's like my RB one and Kyron really is. 67% snaps, 15 carries to targets, 54 yards To touch on scam acres 33% snaps, 22 carries. Seth watch more that game. At the end I wasn't watching it and he said it. Most of those carries regardless time.
Speaker 5:So I would say probably. How many do you have?
Speaker 4:you said he had 13 in the third quarter.
Speaker 5:Yeah, but the Seahawks were kind of.
Speaker 4:Still, we scored that touchdown it was still relatively close. Yeah, he had 13 when he scored that touchdown. So I Don't know, I just I. Got bailed out even by it we could have been disaster. He didn't score a touchdown, but Just wrong, I don't know. At least like weak ones hard not changing myself. My excuse, but I was just wrong.
Speaker 5:Yeah Well.
Speaker 4:I guess I can go. Yeah, go in my Tony take.
Speaker 5:So Tony Did not play as much as I thought. I know we came off knee surgery, but that's so my excuse, because he still got targeted five times and Probably out of the five targets he dropped, I think about three and which he scored a touchdown on one.
Speaker 1:Tony, tony, he should have scored a touchdown, yeah you're right, he should have any. Probably the worst like week of like Twitter in a long time I've seen for a guy like that picture of him with his clubs on they were bricks and stuff like oh they, they, they're doing like the like the wanted, the wanted like the pool things.
Speaker 2:Oh, did you guys see?
Speaker 3:that one, like around Kansas City. It was like those wanted things or like a phone number. It's like paper the wide receiver and it was like wanted wide receivers that can catch and it was like.
Speaker 1:Like the price Good, only have to work on Sundays.
Speaker 3:Like you could like take one. Oh, that was so good.
Speaker 5:And the website. So I think it's very possible, like when Travis Kelsey comes back, I think we can even see Skymore and Tony kick up. But I think even for like the last few years ever since Tyreeks gone, it's just hard to trust any KC receivers and I just think it's gonna be hard for Anyone to trust them to start them week by week. You're just gonna have to see if a trend starts to develop before you can trust starting. But I would say hold on to both Skymore and Tony and kind of just wait to see how it plays out and then Hopefully they become something and you can move into your starting spot. Gibbs, I mean he played 27% of snaps, so not as much as we wanted, but they did say they would ease him in. But when he did play in those 27 snaps he had seven attempts for 42 yards and he had two targets and two receptions.
Speaker 1:And he had a ton of missed tackles.
Speaker 5:Like he forced a lot of missed tackles seven, I think, which is a lot, only playing, only touching the ball nine times.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so when he got the ball, he was making things happen. And I like he did the most with what he could, with his opportunities, I think. But memory had a solid game.
Speaker 5:No a. David Montgomery had a great game, but I think, as the line season progresses and when they aren't like, the lines were necessarily down this game so they were able to run the ball, montgomery. But when they are down in games, gibbs is gonna stay in the game, yeah, and they're gonna use him. He might not be the goal line back, like that we're hoping, but he's like we said, when you make people miss, there's that big playability and he has that, and so I'll take the L this week. Yeah, I think they're gonna be weeks where he has like 20 point performance.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that game. That game was 10 points off. It's total. Yeah, there was a total of 42 points. I think it was 42 points total. I think it was 21, 20, right, that ended up be the line of the the. It was supposed to be a 40, 52 Excuse me 52 point total and so the fact that it was so much lower. I think some of your guys probably got hurt by it, but I think probably the person who got hurt by the most was probably Gibbs. Right when you say he's probably one of the people who got hurt by the most by that total on the Maybe who, who else would you say that?
Speaker 5:would ease him in. So I mean it makes sense.
Speaker 1:I think it hurt a monitor, st Brown.
Speaker 3:I was gonna, he was gonna be my next one.
Speaker 1:I think it probably hurt him the most. He's still had a good game though. Yeah, but what was it? We were a catch-off of breaking. You know that prop right there with him.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I mean, I would just say I think I think Everyone in general like I don't think very many people made a lot of money today when it comes to, I mean, jordan knows more than me, but I think more people thought weeks would play out differently, higher profile players would play better, like like we did. But, like I said, we're gonna get into the duds later.
Speaker 1:So speaking about the chiefs guys, I saw something interesting from JJ Zacharyson. He tweeted that. What was it he said? I think MVS had the second most routes on the chiefs behind Noah Gray, just to put that in, for you led, but the sky more also had like. I'm trying to find it here. It's a huge.
Speaker 4:More was also second in routes for you see the.
Speaker 5:Clyde Edwards thing sky more played 69%.
Speaker 4:Skymore was out there, just anything, played like 75 80%. I didn't see this guy. I'm gonna walk better here.
Speaker 1:It is right here. Noah Gray led the chiefs and routes run on Thursday with 34, marquez Valdez scantling and sky more were second. We're second and third, so I'm guessing sky more was third.
Speaker 4:Yes, okay.
Speaker 1:Respectfully. Kaderis, tony and Rashi Rice had 10, just 10 each, but they were targeted on half of them. So they want, they want Tony to be involved more was cardio.
Speaker 4:He's doing cardio. Yeah and, yes, doing cardio out there.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 4:I mean no great thing. Doesn't surprise me either.
Speaker 1:No, that's a prize me role.
Speaker 4:Like honestly, if, if they, if tells us out again next week, I would just no grace, just a good option again next.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, anyhow, I can't pull it up, but it was basically a complete running lane that he had that he just completely missed. I saw that. But whether you hate the people in your life or you love them, probably lean more of the love, the hate and the love. But that's okay. You should tell them about the dudes fantasy football dudes. We bring people together. The highest compliment you can give us is to share us with your friend. You know whether that be text, you know. Send them a, send them a link to our live thread. You know. You know anything that involves sharing us in somewhere or another. So don't remember, don't be rude. Share the dudes. You know. Referral friend, you know. Send us, send us, you know, add us to our group chat, adam, to a group chat. We can get to know them, become friends with them. Careful, who you add me with, just for what it's worth. But just just remember, don't be rude. Tell a dude All right, let's get into our sits. Trent, you had Najee Harris and James Connor Jordan. You had Marquise Brown and Damian Pierce and Seth. You had Debo Samuel and Deandre Swift, seth. Since you had the best sits, I'm gonna let you start. I would say for the most part, you had one really stellar sit.
Speaker 5:Okay, so Debo 8.8. I think he was getting around his projected. I don't think this is showing his running.
Speaker 1:Did he get?
Speaker 5:any carries. He had some carries, I think it was. He had some. I know that I can pull it right here. He was 5 for 7 for 55 yards. I think he was decent. But I we all saw how good I you can he was the top three receiver. I we noticed also too With Purdy last year. I youk was his top red zone target as a receiver. It wasn't Debo just because I think I use maybe a little more quicker and he runs the slant a little bit better. So I youk is gonna take away those red zone targets from Debo. I think, like Jordan made Debo his doubt of the year, I just think he was just shy of his projected. It was pretty easy. I knew we weren't, I knew we. I knew he wasn't gonna get his 10 points. Like I think, we can expect Debo to usually get below his projected points this year, but Swift, that's the one that I want to do. Oh yeah, if we go to Swift. This one's interesting. I'm not even getting a snap percentage here, because he had one attempt right here, go ahead 28% snaps. Okay, so 28. So when he was in, he wasn't getting the ball, which is interesting. So he's in the backfield, they're throwing. He had two targets, though, and one attempt. I don't even understand. Gainwell played most the game, yet 62 62%, had 14 carries, 4 for 4 and receptions and 20 yards. So like even he's the favorite, like receiving back and penny was a healthy scratch.
Speaker 4:So I mean. I was only six special teams guy. I think gain well is like, honestly, might be one of the premier ads of the week, I think, like waiver wire, just 61% rostered on sleeper. Is he so like?
Speaker 1:61 five.
Speaker 4:I know, literally like a month ago, live, oh, we're doing the pot. I grabbed him in our Dianese Lee I. I think he's like a must-have. I think he should be like 90. He's the RB one on a team that Is pretty high profile offense and I don't think they played well today and they're gonna be up in games. They're gonna run the ball.
Speaker 1:Yeah, do you think, since they did it ball so much around the goal line. Do you think, since they didn't play well, they might shake it up and it might be totally different next week? That's the only thing that okay, I mean.
Speaker 2:Gain will had like three red zone carries to like yeah carry like he's.
Speaker 4:He's the guy there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he had 14 attempts, 54 yards, for targets, for receptions, 20 yards.
Speaker 4:So I mean Jalen hurts to not play well.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 4:I don't think like he fumbled, like it, just it's it's, it's.
Speaker 3:It's the first game.
Speaker 4:Yeah, but I think game well is like a like he's, if he's available, nearly he's like a must must add, I think nice, like.
Speaker 3:Are you feeling? Like, are you feeling about him like you did about Ramon Jey last year? It's not a similar situation, but it sort of is a similar situation. Do you get what I'm saying?
Speaker 4:I think game was I, the one thing that I would say is that, like this sounds crazy, but I think I was more confident in his role last year, remondres role last year, throughout the whole year. Like obviously, to Trent's point, like it could change On the dime, like it could change whenever so you just got to play it while it's hot, basically. Yeah, I think he's good right now. From what we can tell, he's the RV one and it's not really close like yep, I'm gonna go with, I'm gonna, I'm gonna go, just go backwards here.
Speaker 3:Jordan, you go ahead and give us your, so talk about your sister.
Speaker 4:Oh, I think I was okay with my. I had Damian Pierce who was being kind of ranked in the top 20. He only had five, five points, 11 carries, 38 yards, two receptions, three targets. Let me see if I can pull up his Addis tweet. Doesn't have his snap count, but um, I Would imagine he plays most of it, most the game, and be curious what single Terry did. Hit four more carries and singletary. It's just a tough match up for them. I don't like, hey, damian Pierce the rest of the year. I think he was being a little bit overranked though. But yeah, so Damian Pierce, and then you all said more keys brown. Yeah.
Speaker 3:He ended in.
Speaker 4:This is an 27.2 and half point.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 4:Oh, it would have been like 10 and full, or like nine.
Speaker 3:It's just side nine.
Speaker 4:Yeah, he only had four, five targets. Three receptions any rushing rush for like 29 yards, but it's. Arizona actually didn't play horrible this week. I think it made more with the Washington. Washington played really bad, but um, mm-hmm, Shout out to Sam Hale for getting me through on my survivors Um yeah, yeah, I forgot, you had a survivor with that. Yeah, I had two and one night to Washington, one Baltimore.
Speaker 1:So I'm looking just because we brought up cam acres Kyren Williams. He's six percent rostered.
Speaker 4:I think he's also okay.
Speaker 1:Only thing is is they are playing the 49ers this week, so MacVay usually isn't great against the 49ers.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I want to say that you sit next week. Yeah, you might yeah, you might.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you might be able to get this guy again after next week's. What I'm saying? So I don't, if you got the roster space, pick up Kyren Williams, but I don't think I'm playing him.
Speaker 4:But I think Marquis Brown going forward just scary.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 4:I don't really so.
Speaker 1:Good about my sits.
Speaker 4:I think I did.
Speaker 1:I think we all did. We all did good on sits this week it was easier this week than starts.
Speaker 4:It's not always like that, but it was a lot easier this week.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so my sits. I had Najee Harris. He had four fantasy points. You said this when you walked in here, jordan, like we've been getting up on the same or the Steelers and everyone kind of has. But Najee Harris had six attempts for 31 Yards, two targets for two receptions for two yards. So he had under 40 total yards the whole day in 52% snaps. Yeah, and what did a Jalen?
Speaker 4:What's 39% snaps and what were his stats? It probably wasn't great either.
Speaker 1:Okay, warren had four fantasy points, so they're about the same.
Speaker 4:They were also down like 20-0 and like yeah, very fast.
Speaker 1:So 49ers looked good. A lot of people were saying they looked like the most complete team of week one Offense defense. But also, you know, everyone's talking about the Steelers. You even thought the Steelers might win that game. Jordan, you put yourself in with the talking heads. And then I had James Conner, who had 9.5 fantasy points and he just got honestly this honestly this week you might take the nine point. Yeah well, the game, the game script With that wasn't what I thought it was gonna be. I thought that the commanders were gonna kill him and I said the K word. You know, I said wasn't to say that anymore, but uh, james Conner, it was just close enough that he kept getting touches. So he got five receptions five targets five receptions and yeah, I think, yeah, he probably, as long as he's healthy, probably got a playman your lineup, but I don't know if he gets more than that like. I don't think he's gonna destroy your team.
Speaker 4:You think you'll?
Speaker 1:finally, cardinals defense played pretty well today. You see that one hit when the ref got KO'd and he threw the flag while he was sitting down. Did anyone see that? No, it's so good. So, sam, how scrambling out and he's trying to get a bounce, a guy hits him and the other Cardinals guy just takes his head off, goes into the ref. The ref falls over the ref from his back like just throws the flag up, like a little like it's like slow yeah. I was just like. Of course I was like joking, but I said like, hey, I think this, this refs can cuss. That clearly wasn't a flag, and people just went off on me on Twitter, you know so oh.
Speaker 3:But yeah, I mean so that kind of wraps up our starts and sits. Is there anything else that you? Is there anything? I mean we're weak one. Is there anything that makes you nervous, jordan?
Speaker 4:outside of our starts. So it's a couple other things like. I have some snap counts here, so oh, we'll get there Javante out, snapped some Ajip Irine For all the people who thought Javante was gonna be eased in but the the hand was the carries pretty similar. I mean it was 4845, so it was close. What I'm saying is that if it's already gonna be 50, 50, 13 attempts for Javante eight attempts.
Speaker 1:For P Ryan yeah, and for Receptions for P Ryan.
Speaker 4:Javante had six targets. Okay so, like Russell Wilson also sucks still.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I did is wash. I caught the end of that game. You get a lot of dump downs to the running backs.
Speaker 4:Yeah, so and Javante is already getting 48%. Javante is gonna be up to 60, 65, 70 by then this year and he looked good like. From what I saw, he didn't look bad. We talked about the Kyron thing already. For anyone who was concerned about Ramon Dre, ramon Dre and Zeke were 74 35 kind of interesting. They played 10 9% of snaps together.
Speaker 3:What about just we're you? Guys are humbled once too. We were talking about this when we came in Daniel Jones situation like what are you guys thinking about there?
Speaker 4:Bad matchup, I think Like they actually moved the ball really well in that first drive, the block field goal.
Speaker 3:I just was downhill from that he had 13 attempts on the ground. I yeah, probably scrambling and just take a lot of. No, a lot of them were designed. He ran four times. Yeah, first try to so that's not terrible, right. No, I Was but he was just getting beat up, though in passing fun fact Daniel Jones scored more points than Joe Barrow today.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so did a Dobbs.
Speaker 4:Joe Burrow is horrible, the big one horrible, but it was raining.
Speaker 1:Well, he didn't play all he hasn't played in a long time like what we the Browns own them the crazy instrument.
Speaker 4:He completed 14 passes and only a two yards.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and chase that. How many points the Josh Dobbs have, I Thought? I saw that Dobbs had more points than burrow. Is that right?
Speaker 3:No, I know it does in this. I don't I mean pull him up real quick, Trent Did I'm getting a negative. You saw that right yeah but you're in it.
Speaker 4:You're in a different way point Okay, okay.
Speaker 1:I think there was a time in this league I'm looking at, dobbs had one fantasy point, so there was a time when he had more.
Speaker 4:Lamar only had six, like the Marl.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and Lamar was a guy that I really thought was gonna be turned the corner after being paid. Maybe it's just cuz Andrews wasn't there, I don't know that was more in the ball game script thing.
Speaker 4:That's not really his fault. Kenny, pick it up, man. Hopefully very better days had. Jalen Hertz only 12 and a half like quarterbacks, just Terrible. Kind of rough this week, man.
Speaker 1:Baker Mayfield was quarterback 11 on the week, so far Jones was QB to. Yeah, and I think Baker's streamable in the right situation this year.
Speaker 4:Yeah, no, I had some Baker stacks and DFS like you did that. You look pretty to yeah, behind behind to a.
Speaker 5:Jordan, love was three.
Speaker 4:Yeah, jordan love look good. Packers are good, just defense is legit and Valley strong and they are. I have good offense. Without Christian Watson they're gonna be good. I think Jaden read my tort hers, so heard himself yeah.
Speaker 1:Jordan love than wild Jordan love might be a guy you want to pick up.
Speaker 3:Jordan love is 24 years old.
Speaker 1:Yeah why he's been in the league. This is third year. Yes, that's in Venice 25.
Speaker 3:I just I looked him up to see how old he was today and to see he's 24. I'm like we didn't everyone just be like man. It's so terrible. He's just kind of like riding the bench for these first three years but it's like probably gonna work out in his favor, like he's coming into a really good, like more mature part of his life, right at 24. Like it's tough to start at 21.
Speaker 5:Yeah, yeah. We all saw the Ricky quarterback today.
Speaker 1:Bryce young had a hard time some of my deads of the week. I have Lamar Jackson, dj Moore and I was watching that game. It looked like DJ Moore actually could have got more targets, could have got the ball more. I don't know if Justin Fields, just the chemistry is not there. He threw him a, he made an incredible catch out of bounds on a two-point conversion at the end of the game, but I don't, I just I don't understand why he wasn't getting more Targets, why they didn't get more creative. I know Jair Alexander is really good, but I thought he would. And also I lost a lot of sleeper plays because of DJ Moore. I had two plays that you know were Multipliers and he was the only one that didn't hit. And speaking of sleeper, that's the dude's favorite place to play fantasy football guys. So go into dudes 100. They will match up to $100 and If you haven't moved your whole league over there yet, they have live plays during the games are giving away a lot of free squares. You just got to get two different. Just got to get two different plays right, which it sounds easy, and maybe if you don't Stack up four different plays, it is easy. But today I did, you know, a couple of different sets and they were a little different and I basically Went like 90% on my sleeper picks today. But I had DJ Moore and all of them. I need him to get over three and a half receptions and he was stuck at two. So I was really excited about DJ Moore. I had him, as you know, one of my dudes of the year, hoping this he gets better than this. And then Drake London, drake London out there just doing a jogathon out there. I don't know why did he got one target, I believe zero points, 90% of snaps.
Speaker 4:I want to hear your falcon steak, because I also want to hear you take on the running backs Like I want to hear the running backs, so I had the snaps percentage okay. He's on 65% snaps 10 carries, six targets. Tyler out here. 54% snaps 15 carries, three targets.
Speaker 1:You said you it's up to say about it, oh what but mostly what I said about Drake London is that's why I was gonna say I think he got game scripted out today, like in Kyle Pitts, like I think. If I think that if he, if a ritter is forced to throw those guys the ball, I think they'll make plays. I just don't think they had to do it today. The game was close, you know.
Speaker 5:I'm saying the problem with the Falcons is like half their games they might not have to throw the ball.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I won't. Yeah, yeah, cuz they have fresh.
Speaker 5:They got fresh running backs and they're really good running backs in Cordill Patterson.
Speaker 1:I know he's a joker on their depth chart, but he didn't even play today, right, like I think he was hurt. So like that's another guy that like, maybe in two weeks I have another, you know, just fresh legs, they're just thrown out there.
Speaker 4:Here's my question, though Are you that confident they will throw the ball even when they're down?
Speaker 1:I Would hope so. I would hope so that they're down 14 points.
Speaker 4:How many points would it take them to throw the ball to be down?
Speaker 1:I'm hoping it's only 14, but and I think ritter is getting eased into it still to. But yeah, the Kyle Pitt stuff like it's brutal.
Speaker 4:good, I think we're stuck, so that's yeah.
Speaker 1:I don't think they had to lean on him today. First the Panthers. I think this was just a what it like, what we're gonna have 15 for 18 115 yards.
Speaker 4:Yeah, the TD. Who do you throw TD to be? John? Yeah, yeah, well, the running backs. So I just say, the running backs had they got a lot of targets right, yeah, six and nine targets combined and he's got 18 save me quite a bit.
Speaker 5:So nine, nine of his targets went to running backs.
Speaker 4:Yeah, nine of his 18 passes, one to talk with turning.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it could just be a total miss.
Speaker 4:So so I guess my thing is that, like Also, I think they're gonna have a heart, they're not gonna get as down in games because they're just gonna run the ball so much that and they chew the clock out.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 4:I mean, teams are gonna make him throw the ball eventually like but I was here and be John are good. Yeah, no, that's so what are you worried about?
Speaker 1:Oh, I'm definitely worried, you know no.
Speaker 4:I'm more curious by the running backs, because you kind of like, when I brought up out here earlier, you kind of like dismissed them a little bit. They were not, you were just. I was like what about out here? And you were like B John, they're gonna give him all the work.
Speaker 1:I think that B John's going to start to pull away from this, but I think they're both good, like I think you can play. Yeah, you can play both of them. Yeah, unfortunately you can. I was here at 23 points to touchdowns.
Speaker 4:It's yeah, 94, 94 yards like.
Speaker 1:B John on that touchdown. Looked really nice, though, in that pass.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I didn't see that, but I just saw the out of your touch John's and he looked real good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I Just think is the. I think B John, as the season goes on, will separate himself from out here.
Speaker 4:They're gonna run the ball 30 times. It may not matter.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they're gonna have to give them both. Is this pant like? You have any duds you kind of want to talk about here, jordan?
Speaker 4:No, I just have.
Speaker 3:Is this one of the weirder first weeks of football?
Speaker 4:Oh, we need to talk about the Ravens. Yeah, we're going to talk about running bad JK.
Speaker 1:Dobbins like who's the running back there? I don't know if it's Gus I think it's Justice Hill.
Speaker 4:Yeah, well, I mean he had eight carries, nine yards, two touchdowns. They're also bringing out Melvin Gordon. I forgot this one.
Speaker 1:I forgot Melvin Gordon's there. Gosh, they actually could get so ugly Guys this actually could be so ugly.
Speaker 4:I think it's a stay away from me, honestly.
Speaker 1:I'm going to put a tweet and email out with all our waivers. I might even go on tomorrow night and just do like a 15 minute pod of just some waivers, just for you guys, if you want them on the, you know when I have a little better grasp of everything on Tuesday night and a guy I wish he's on injured reserve.
Speaker 4:The guy I wish they had it still was Keaton Mitchell, the rookie out of East Carolina, because I think he could be the guy there, but Gus Edwards is he.
Speaker 1:This is JK Dobbins' careers over. Yes, absolutely over.
Speaker 5:No one's going to keep it.
Speaker 4:You know what? Maybe it is Gus Edwards. He had eight carries, 32 yards.
Speaker 1:That's what I'm saying it's a mess, is what it is.
Speaker 5:Gus Edwards didn't get any red zone carries.
Speaker 1:I hope it's a card, but I know it's not.
Speaker 4:It's a fullback right, I know but he's awesome.
Speaker 1:Uh what, uh Seahawks guys, are we panicking? Is Gino done? Seth's?
Speaker 5:wearing a JSN jersey, one of my debts for the year. I don't know if it's necessarily Gino's fault. We had two starting tackles, get injured. That's true. That doesn't help.
Speaker 1:So definitely doesn't help. Doesn't help any of Aaron Donald.
Speaker 5:Did you see him?
Speaker 1:yell at Aaron Donald when he was about to get sacked. Who Did you see that clip? Did you see it? Aaron Donald's coming and he's about to hit Gino Smith and Gino Smith's mic'd up. You know and you just hear on the broadcast OMG, and he throws the ball away.
Speaker 3:No, way yeah. He just says oh, I probably wouldn't have used it. I definitely wouldn't have used those words, but I probably would have said something.
Speaker 1:If you see Aaron Donald running at you, your pants might be wet.
Speaker 3:Might be worse than that. Like they'd be brown, yeah, it might be a worse scenario.
Speaker 5:It might be pulled up in the fetal position.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Like if you see Aaron Donald running at you in any situation, it's just not a good idea. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, the they see how it's did not.
Speaker 4:And then also actually.
Speaker 3:DK was pulled that dumb stunt.
Speaker 5:Like that was so weird, that guy's, he's a hothead, that's a diva move, don't you think?
Speaker 1:Oh, maybe diva the week just clipping. I agree 30 yards from the field.
Speaker 5:He's going to get fine for that. If he doesn't get suspended, he's going to get fine, for sure yeah.
Speaker 3:I find and suspended potentially on the table here. Yeah, Trent is on a cloud nine because his team played so well. I'm sick of hearing about it. I can't stand the Cowboys. You often said nothing. I'm just kidding Jordan. You want to say anything about your job?
Speaker 2:You were just talking about being scared, you know, and you know, you know, maybe nervous Jordan, what are you talking?
Speaker 1:about how you said he'd be scared if Aaron Donald was running at you. Yeah, you might do more than wet your pants. Okay, are you going to? Is this a? Yeah no, just talking about underdog. You know underdogs.
Speaker 5:I'm trying to get a place.
Speaker 3:I knew I played DFS.
Speaker 1:You can do some drafts. We did a draft on the pod who won? I won. I honestly didn't look, I promise you.
Speaker 4:I didn't, of course, you won.
Speaker 1:Oh nice I honestly, I did that during the live stream. I picked.
Speaker 5:Chase over Tyree kill.
Speaker 1:So rough so we did an underdog draft on here. Inter promo code dude, so match up to $100. We're going to do a draft in here every week, you know, at the end of our Thursday pause.
Speaker 3:Let's clap it up for that.
Speaker 2:That's awesome Come on, let's clap it up, for that I need to see Jordan clap.
Speaker 3:I'm not stopping until I see his. There we go, there we go.
Speaker 1:I'm just a little bit of tilting here, but any other headline here.
Speaker 4:Trent, I got a little, I'll let's play a little game here, most most surprising thing of the day for you.
Speaker 1:Most surprising thing of the day for me.
Speaker 3:He may not get back to you this answer time.
Speaker 1:I might need to think when I woke up this morning, noah you didn't get a cramp, let me.
Speaker 3:You didn't have the double underbooks, as he called it.
Speaker 4:You go home the surprising thing for me was the Niners Steelers game and how, how good rock party was and how bad can you pick it was, and that whole Steelers offense.
Speaker 3:Okay, hate to say I told you so.
Speaker 4:You have one, phillip, you guys have one.
Speaker 5:I would say I'm surprised how bad the Bengals were.
Speaker 4:I would say it's just not because, like they were on the road in Cleveland.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 4:I know, they've struggled against Cleveland in the past, like they did the same thing last year.
Speaker 5:But I just thought maybe this would be the game where it's like, okay, this isn't a trend anymore. You know, for me also like right there with the Steelers.
Speaker 4:You'd be like how about the commanders look to?
Speaker 1:commanders look bad yeah.
Speaker 4:You have one yet, Trent.
Speaker 1:I want to say Dishon Watson finished as one, two, three, four, five finishes QB six, 21 points. On the day I had some nice plays to a Mari Cooper stuff.
Speaker 5:I had a rushing. He ran in a touchdown.
Speaker 3:He was technically tied for a third Trent, wasn't he? Yes, he's technically tied for Richard and Richardson played really well.
Speaker 1:Like that surprised me, Like I kind of was pumping him up this off season. He looked good. I know he got hurt Sounds like he's going to play, but probably at Richardson and Dishon Watson were the biggest surprises I had today for them playing. Speaking of the Browns, Elijah Eli was Elijah Moore had a good pre-solved game and he got some handoffs. So you might want to look. That might be a good waiver wire and I'm not sure what his roster ship is. And another thing didn't surprise me the Chargers are still the Chargers. Like they just find ways to lose these close games that they should win. You know the Dolphins had both. They had their best offensive linemen out and they didn't give up one sack to Bosa or Cleo Mack.
Speaker 4:Yeah, do you feel anything?
Speaker 3:No, I, I. It's not necessarily a surprise, but it's just cool to see that the Lions are still. I don't want to call them clutch, no, but no, hear me out. Game one back. It's not a Cinderella story. Like the Lions are going to be consistently good, I think the remainder of the season and I don't think it's going to you're going to stop this train. Like they may end up winning the NFC North. Like they're going to spank the. I think they're going to spank the Vikings. They're going to spank the Vikings and they spank the Panthers. Guarantee, like Mark my words no, sorry, spank the Packers and spank the Vikings.
Speaker 1:They might spank the Panthers too.
Speaker 3:The other one, but but but do you get what I'm saying? Like they played a gritty game, a tough game, against a team who gave, who gave them, who gave them some handouts a little bit, but they, they grinded it out and ended up winning that game. Like I think that's a big deal.
Speaker 4:I just agree with you. I just think that's crazy. I think they're going to beat the Packers in Lambo like that easy after how good the Packers look today.
Speaker 3:Yeah, don't count Dan Campbell out. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 4:I got one more, one more question.
Speaker 1:Calvin Ridley.
Speaker 4:Calvin Ridley pod you know, trevor Lawrence, yeah, okay, okay, you know like I like this.
Speaker 3:I like this. Questions from Jordan, like we should do that. Hey, that was more.
Speaker 1:Yeah, just don't give us the pop quizzes anymore, for goodness sake.
Speaker 3:But also when he like tries to prompt. Really that's what you're thinking Like, dude. You asked my opinion Like I don't know what to say here, but I like them, I like them.
Speaker 4:I got one more.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 4:Who hurt you the most today?
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Who hurt me the most?
Speaker 1:When I was walking outside this morning. Oh, never mind, stupid.
Speaker 3:Not even funny.
Speaker 4:Not even funny. Your wallet today Like just. I were you like I already said, yours today.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I would say DJ Moore was probably the most hurtful, most hurtful guy to me in fantasy football. Tyree, kill Guy Toley. I played against Justin.
Speaker 2:Fields I played against?
Speaker 1:I played against Justin Fields, you know, in my home league, and I'm like, oh, justin Fields is just wetting the bed Like this is great, terrible for my DJ, more pick. But you know he also has waddle or no. Well, tyree kill, I've been calling Tyree kill waddle all day today, I don't know why. And Tyree kill just goes absolutely bonkers on me. That last TD catch looks like it skids the Chargers, corners, shoulder pad and somehow he catches it for the touchdown.
Speaker 5:One for 15, two hundred fifteen two touchdowns, 39 points.
Speaker 4:Tyree was really good for me.
Speaker 5:Yeah, Tyree, no, yeah I. It was fun to watch, but I played Tyree in three out of my five and he single handed me like lost.
Speaker 3:Yeah, as rough your plan One the guy.
Speaker 5:I was playing two game in two different leagues.
Speaker 4:So yeah, Uh, Trent or Seth, you have most hurt most. Who's the most hurtful to you today?
Speaker 5:And I want to say it was Drake Leonard just putting up just a straight up dud, Like I could say like Chase, but he's still got me six and a half points. But I would say Drake Leonard getting his absolute zero.
Speaker 3:Jalen hurts. Jalen hurts for me and it wasn't that bad. I mean, it was 11 points in the in two different leagues but I just expected a lot more from, was hoping for a lot more from him, I feel like that's pretty.
Speaker 5:I think the weather played a big role in quite a few of these games.
Speaker 4:I got three. I don't mean go to overboard, no, no, bring it, this is the content that we earn for year and four. Sorry, you're number one I would say is Mike Williams. I had I could even pull it up right now I'm not going to be able to put it I had like 40% Mike Williams in DFS this week. I had Mike Williams props on the over his receiving yards Like I had him pair with the free scare was free square with CMC on sleeper. I had, so like he. Just he hurt me big time and he he went out for about the whole second quarter which didn't help. And then number two would be Richard White. I had like 55% Richard White in DFS and I had he was another one I had a lot of action on his prop and I was rushing prop and then no, no Steelers. No, I wasn't at the Niners. I wasn't. I wasn't overexposed to Steelers.
Speaker 3:Okay, you didn't come in hot and it's anyway wise to the Steelers this week.
Speaker 4:And then number three would be Jamar Chase. I have been in my main league, one of my main money leagues, and that was killer. And then I actually have a stack with Burrow in that league and then, I had lots of Jamar. I mean, I was very highly exposed to Hill, jefferson and Chase and two of those three are really good, but I just you just need more at that salary and DFS. So those three guys were the most hurtful to. Honestly, if Mike Williams and Richard White have big days, I'm probably feeling a lot better right now.
Speaker 1:Even like Justin Jefferson had a really good game, but it was like all first half. It was really weird. I think he had over a hundred and something yards in the first half.
Speaker 4:He really, really was the same way. They both were big first half Maybe it just surprised me.
Speaker 1:The Vikings lost that game with how fast they they never really pulled away. But like Jefferson had a good game, addison had a touchdown. Addison had four receptions for four for a touchdown 14 fancy points. He is I'm not sure what he's rostered completely.
Speaker 4:I mean targets. Addison have six. I think that's pretty good. I mean they're going to throw the ball. We know they're going to throw the ball. Madison didn't look great like on the ground, like, but also like the Bucks are still having a solid run defense. Yeah, the Bucks a little better, I thought they were going to be. I mean, I think Vikings games are games you're going to want to target.
Speaker 1:Did. The only team that lost in the AFC South was it the Panthers.
Speaker 4:Well, when the AFC South an AFC South.
Speaker 1:Sorry.
Speaker 4:The AFC South would be.
Speaker 1:Saints one.
Speaker 4:I say Titan game was ugly.
Speaker 1:Raiders are in first place. We should probably, you know, clap it up for that.
Speaker 3:What was your Raiders? I know you got a good Raiders buddy. Was he just going off today?
Speaker 5:I mean, no one was excited about Jimmy Garoppolo, but he was excited, though, about the one and they were really happy that the Chargers lost yeah, wash quarterbacks in that game, jimmy G.
Speaker 4:And well, jimmy G, the Raiders are the only team in the hip-sea West that won a game this week.
Speaker 1:That's true, yeah, so first place.
Speaker 3:And this is the second or third year where they're doing Divisional play, like right at the beginning, which to me, I just kind of hate it.
Speaker 1:They've done it for a while. I just said three years. No, it's been longer than three years. I don't think it's the Cowboys, and the Cowboys and Giants play week one every year for like almost as long as I can remember More consistently, more consistently.
Speaker 3:Usually it's not divisional games right out the jump look it up. The last three years it's been pretty intense. All right, what are we? What are we moving on here next? Is there anything? Jordan, do you have any other questions? I shouldn't cut you off. Maybe you have to think of a third. We need a third question.
Speaker 1:Justin's fields was what?
Speaker 2:you snap under the game yeah did you?
Speaker 1:yeah, justin Fields was brutal like you spent. You spent draft capital on Justin Fields and he totally just he didn't, simply did not care.
Speaker 5:I guess maybe some other big surprises, like we had some guys that we had big weeks that like probably not a lot of people had or started Jacobi Myers, kendrick, michael Pittman, like is it possible he has another 20-point week, maybe not.
Speaker 4:Michael Pittman. Yeah, Richardson might just yeah.
Speaker 5:Richardson's just gonna Yolo ball that guy I mean, is Kendrick born gonna have another 21-point week?
Speaker 4:Well, part of that was the Vonte Parker was out and Jacobi Myers, is he really gonna?
Speaker 3:be that good.
Speaker 4:Definitely can't hope you might not play football for a while. The guy was like since I can't use the word again, but he was literally knocked out cold, like the guy like I knocked out, like only fought in the UFC fight night before.
Speaker 3:Yeah, against Shawn Strickland Also. That was the UFC fight the night before.
Speaker 4:I wasn't yeah.
Speaker 3:He won.
Speaker 4:I said he was most surprising thing all week when Shawn Strickland beating his yeah, I saw you and that probably hurt you the most.
Speaker 3:Yeah, also very hurtful was that upset right yeah, um Go ahead, trent.
Speaker 1:No, I I think that kind of you guys. Do we have any other football talk here we want to talk about on this? What else do you guys have? I've kind of went through my notes. I I'll have a waiver article coming out.
Speaker 4:I'll put them on Twitter and stuff off top of my head, like if I had to give like a top five waiver party. We're top of my head right now, in really no particular order. I think it'd be like gain Well, kyron Williams, pukin, a kua from the Rams, maybe like a Gus Edwards, and then, man, is there anyone else that's comes to your mind?
Speaker 5:If you want to grab at will maybe at well is right there.
Speaker 4:Zay Jones, maybe he was. Christian Kirk was not involved. I'd like to see that His target count and kind of like yeah, maybe.
Speaker 1:Maybe rush shade Shahid on the Saints had a decent game in a deeper, I think.
Speaker 4:I like those Rams receivers a little bit better than him. Yeah, I don't. I'm against. Jaguars must have been in three we see her cut three targets I wonder what a snap snap was this not? Since there is, I'm fine with it.
Speaker 1:I Did a little tight end tweet. You know about tight ends. You could straightly was horrible today too.
Speaker 4:How about that guy who was hurtful to the wallet? I say a likely.
Speaker 1:I, I did it, yeah, nothing.
Speaker 4:I just but again, that was a product of Lamar and how that game went and so likely was likely killed me.
Speaker 1:I did a little thread on Twitter that had a Just tight ends to fill in. I did three tight ends that could fill in for Travis Kelsey. I put Gerald Everett on there said killing more has been known in the past to have offenses that Target the tight end. I said Gerald Everett, it was parham, finally he had nine fancy points, and then I've been.
Speaker 3:We'll give you some credit for the other guy had was Jake Ferguson from Dallas.
Speaker 4:I.
Speaker 1:Couldn't catch the ball, but he had seven targets.
Speaker 5:So I really. It was raining profusely.
Speaker 1:So I think, jake, I think.
Speaker 4:It was raining really bad. Ferguson's a guy, stash him one more guy that I think is also interesting. It's Luke Musgrave.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh, he let his team in he let his team in snaps.
Speaker 4:Okay skill player snaps.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and he's the fastest guy in the wide receiver room and he's a tight end yeah he's tied in. Yeah.
Speaker 4:I think that Luke Musgrave could be. He had 50 receiving yards today. Yeah curious how many catches were on those I'm trying to find what it.
Speaker 1:What is Musgraves Roster ship?
Speaker 4:Super high like it's low must give over. Likely like hidden hearst is not, I think, a bad option either.
Speaker 5:Three for four.
Speaker 4:What must grave?
Speaker 1:my sleeper is saying zero percent roster.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's something's wrong right now on sleeper because I'm getting a lot of that for a couple different players Trent. I wouldn't go off that must grave.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I would play in person I heard, had seven targets today. Where's Hayden Hurst at right now, carolina, okay.
Speaker 4:I think that's one's also interesting. So there's just a few few options as quick, quick waivers, if I'll talk my head.
Speaker 1:Alright, I I don't know if I really want to touch any of the chiefs running backs until I'm proved otherwise. Pacheco's the best one, but they still seems like they don't know their identity there yet.
Speaker 4:Are we doing divas?
Speaker 1:Let's do some divas. Anyone have any divas here?
Speaker 4:Okay, oh yeah, we talked about in the text for a while, like people who enjoy Whatever whatever this was called that I had to watch today on the red zone. You guys are divas. Like you guys is horrible.
Speaker 3:What, what are you? Oh, are you talking about? Oh?
Speaker 4:my gosh, it is so much.
Speaker 3:He's a handsome hater.
Speaker 4:It's so much. No, it's not a handsome, it's the production of it Like do you think? So much worse.
Speaker 1:The direct TV to Ciliano Old school and it felt so they take it like it is bad Really and you guys, like it is my morning, so what I was thinking about is, maybe with the full slate and not as many buys, and the morning slate having more games than normal. Maybe it was extra behind the normal, I don't remember it being that far behind last year.
Speaker 5:I'm already my other issue.
Speaker 4:It's usually not I like, and also I've had the old one for seven, eight years, so I've watched it for seven eight years.
Speaker 3:You're used to it.
Speaker 4:I'm used to it. It's like like I'm like watching whip around coverage out there, like it's like we're going like one play here One, play there one play.
Speaker 3:No, I can understand what you're saying with that. I can't understand.
Speaker 4:We're saying that it's just like the team is. It's called the red zone channel. The Dolphins are in the red zone right now. Why are we take going away from the?
Speaker 1:game. I think they were missing. I think they were purposely being behind or something that they should have just the way.
Speaker 4:It's just like why don't we just stay on this game? It's in the red zone. Why are we going to the Commander's game when it's?
Speaker 3:if it's a closer game, though, if it's a closer game in the red zone, where they're like quarter, though why doesn't? Matter, I'm just. I'm just saying, I'm just trying to give you some potential up like.
Speaker 1:He's trying to talk you off a ledge. I'm a little bit worried.
Speaker 4:I was this the second the afternoon or after half time. There's only two games and they're going like back and forth. That was okay. But when there's like seven games and you're trying to like play here, play there, play there, play there, play there, play there, it's just like no, I know what you're talking about, it, could it?
Speaker 1:seemed very behind this week and I don't know if they're trying something different. That's crazy to me, though, but it never was, because I would get sleeper alerts and then the play would happen on red zone. This year it was like Anthony Richardson's hurt and I didn't find out for like ten minutes on red.
Speaker 4:So like we end up like watching the four doing the four box, which is not the four boxes, sweet before boxes, really is it better than two TVs. Two TVs with the four box to be sweet.
Speaker 1:I don't know if I can comprehend that much from being honest like I don't. I think I'm good with four.
Speaker 4:Well, yeah, I'm not, but but the problem was, trent, is that we had the three games and like we were watching like mostly like my dad's, the commander's fans, so we had the commanders up there, I was the Jaguar's, the Jaguars game, that we were watching a lot of the Vikings Tampa game, but like we would watch it and then we'd have the red zone on the one and like the 45 seconds later the red zone would show the same play we already that's pretty bad watch.
Speaker 3:And you're listening to red zone, huh Listen cuz you could choose. Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah. So I don't know Like I just think that like the way the legit and maybe it's one week, maybe you'll get better. But like people who like that and and honestly, like I can see why you like the Hanson over to silly on it. It's not about that for me. It's more about like just the way they run the production of it and how they run it and like you would have to silly on a pretty, pretty tough hard.
Speaker 3:There I like to see. I mean sorry, hanson, no, it's not.
Speaker 4:Hanson, it's. It's not the person, it's the production of it. Like it's just how it's set up.
Speaker 3:It's not them, it's you, kind of a deal.
Speaker 4:No, it's not the guy.
Speaker 3:I hate when people tell me that it's not the it's not.
Speaker 4:The employee is the employer.
Speaker 3:I hear you know, but I understand what you're saying when they go back and forth to you quickly. But I will say last year they were not, they were not, so they actually I didn't think they were behind last year. Yeah did you think that, trent? I didn't think it was that.
Speaker 5:I always knew that you Know behind a little behind, but usually not it wasn't 45 seconds it helps when bias come around and it's a little.
Speaker 4:I mean, if you're only watching the red zone channel, it's probably okay because you don't know any better, right, but when, like, you're watching, usually what I've done in the past I have the one game on and I have red zone on my iPad.
Speaker 1:Yeah yes, you're ready.
Speaker 4:I'm not gonna change that for you, because you can just put four games up at once.
Speaker 1:I did that today.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I actually didn't have red zone on really today, I just did the four we did at some point, just because it was like there's, but then it's just kind of like it's nice, so you can just have. It's like football is back.
Speaker 1:Football is back. We're all excited. This guy's just blowing up the group text about how bad this red zone is.
Speaker 3:Jordan had some bold takes. This Jordan was fired up this weekend. He was upset that the Bulldogs won.
Speaker 4:And he's a Bulldog fan. You want to defend yourself on that I shouldn't have brought it up. We can take that out. We can take that out.
Speaker 3:I can take it out.
Speaker 1:Seth, what do you have? What Diva? The week you got anything yourself. Your father-in-law.
Speaker 5:I don't know. Just trying to help you out. Fantasy football I can't wait to go to sleep and forget about fantasy football today.
Speaker 1:I Don't even know what to say. It'll come out tomorrow, it's only week one.
Speaker 5:Monday night. See, I can't wait to go to sleep tomorrow and wake up and it's new.
Speaker 4:Tomorrow, you know what?
Speaker 5:else makes me mad, you else, diva. Sorry, I'm sorry. I don't want to go out underdog here, but Jordan told me before the pod he gets an underdog promo and I go to my phone. I don't have the promo.
Speaker 3:That is up with that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'll talk to our rep. I think that kind of does it guys.
Speaker 4:No, I said we're going to use calendars going bad on our partners.
Speaker 5:Yeah, my buddies again. Yeah, have a deal, you, have a deal you have a deal.
Speaker 3:No, I've probably been a diva too much in the last couple weeks to eat, to really point the figure in really also.
Speaker 4:Phil was the Diva. Yeah, I did that, I'm sure pointing out a plight way you did.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you didn't apply away and we couldn't really understand what you're saying because you're never mind, just hey remember, give us a check us out on YouTube.
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