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Aug. 14, 2023

Favorite Pick in Every Round of Fantasy Football

Favorite Pick in Every Round of Fantasy Football

We're here to deliver the inside scoop on our top draft picks per round. We'll guide you through the fierce debate on picking Christian McCaffrey or Justin Jefferson in the first round and shed light on our favorite picks per round. We'll guide you through our analysis, helping you identify your late-round gems. And to wrap things up, we share our take on the uncertainty of the New York Giants' wide receiver room and how it could impact your draft strategy. So, plug in, relax, and let us guide you through this exhilarating journey of fantasy football.

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Transcript
Speaker 1:

This is the fantasy football dudes podcast.

Speaker 2:

What is up my dudes? This is Trent with the fantasy football dudes podcast. I am joined by Seth and Jordan. Phil is out with a A boo boo, a boo boo. Phil has a little boo boo or tummy ache, I'm not sure. So I get well soon, phil. We miss you here on the pod and the dude din we are recording on a Sunday afternoon. Since Phil is not here Getting it, we'll knock that a little early. Thought we'd mess around with the live stream. So first live stream ever. Yeah, and hopefully it won't be the last one. Hopefully not. We've had a lot of fun spamming everyone with the live stream. So, jordan, we up right there, do you see it?

Speaker 4:

I don't see it.

Speaker 2:

So maybe we aren't live. Trent might not be live streamed.

Speaker 3:

But we are recording for what we are recording.

Speaker 2:

We are recording. So there's that. You have a good weekend set you doing okay, hanging in there, buddy.

Speaker 3:

Trent's use of nicknames like buddy or big guy. That's always a fun one because you don't know if you should take offense to those nicknames or not. But no, I did have a good weekend. I didn't really do too much, just kind of hung out. The river where I do a lot of activities has been open, so I've been enjoying escaping the heat on the water. The river is about probably like 50 something degrees, and when it's 100 degrees outside it's nice to cut it down and soak in there and bring the body temperature down. I also have a jet ski which is pretty fun to ride on during the summer.

Speaker 2:

I'm not sure if you know this, seth, but you got posted on the Twitter yesterday. I know you don't have a Twitter, but there was a barbecue pick and I said Saturdays are for the smokers. And here's Seth, looking like a snack, and there was you in the background, shirtless.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, so I was the one who actually told said fellow who was barbecuing to send that picture of you, and he decided to get me in the background and I said, wait, don't send the picture of me with my shirt off to the thing, because this is going on the podcast. And he proceeded to send you that picture.

Speaker 2:

I'm so sorry.

Speaker 3:

For what it's worth.

Speaker 2:

I wasn't flexing, but I thought you were, even if I was it wouldn't have made a difference. But what I will say, Seth, is you kind of looked like a modern man in that picture. You know, the modern man's a man who takes care of himself. I do take care of myself. Man scaping isn't just for life special occasions. It's a requirement for optimal health and superior hygiene and healthy self-esteem. You know, have the right tools for safe and precise grooming and hard to navigate sensitive areas, plus post trimming products. So, seth, yeah, you looked very silky smooth in that picture, if you want to check that out. At TFF, dudes on Twitter had a nice little barbecue pick there. We still not live on the stream, jordan, see.

Speaker 3:

that's why I said I wanted to do this one time I don't have you started on YouTube for what it's worth.

Speaker 2:

Okay, well, I'll try again while we're here on the fly. Right, yeah, why not?

Speaker 3:

I can bring up what we're talking about, if you want to do that Jordan's recap. You have a good weekend. You have a good weekend, you have anything.

Speaker 4:

Jordan, um no, it's a good. I actually it's first weekend I like kind of just chilled in a while you said you made a lot of bets this weekend. Yeah, it was a good betting weekend. Um, decent DFS weekend. Uh yeah, I've been out of town last two weekends so it was nice to just kind of chill on a Saturday, watch some sports, watch some sports. But you know, pretty soon this Saturday is going to be crazy. You know the weekends are going to be crazy in a couple of weekends. So we got, I think, two Saturdays from or from yesterday, two weeks from now, college football will have its first weekend I'm almost more excited about college football. I know it's a fancy football podcast, but I love college football, Um shoot, I play fancy college football on the weekends too. So like um, and then I think a week from then, the first Saturday of September is like the first big college football weekend. Uh, so you know, pretty soon, our week, my weekends, are consistent of watching a lot of football, you know.

Speaker 3:

This is argues like about this time, like late August, being in September, is like the best time of the year, Like baseball playoffs are kind of getting close, football starting up it I it's like it's almost my favorite time like in terms of sports wise.

Speaker 2:

And honestly I I don't have like a DFS football. Yeah, yeah, that's true, I don't have a DFS the week, but maybe something that we could get out of the way. And it's not too late, Even if a wedding's planned. You know fall weddings, you know, especially early college football season, like maybe a little later. It sounds bad, but if you have a wedding, like one of those first two Saturdays of college football, it just like it will chap your high.

Speaker 4:

I'll be honest, the I think the sec the second weekend of college football. I have a coaching clinic all day long, so that's self induced Jordan.

Speaker 3:

It is self induced.

Speaker 4:

But the good thing is, you know, like, the good thing is we all have phones. So that is, that's true. That is the good thing. You know you can always cheat. You can always cheat. You can always have the best of both worlds, you know. So, um, hopefully they're all good, good speakers, whether it's speaker I don't like you know, you can just kind of flip the notepad up and have the phone behind the notepad. You know, like so no, but uh, yeah, I'm, I'm excited.

Speaker 3:

Okay. Well, while Trent's trying to figure us out, live here we're live, we're live, we are live now. Where. What are we live on right now? YouTube we're live on YouTube. We okay, all right, sweet Well, we're live on YouTube. I'll let Jordan do the checkup on that. But this, this episode, we're picking the the best players from each round or the players that we we like. Right, there's obvious answers from the first round, but it's players we like per round. That can be well, it's by sleeper ADP. That's what we have pulled up. So we did a mock draft where every where it's 12 teams, 15 rounds and we let uh every team auto draft and we're going to pick uh players we like from each round and just be like hey, if you're in this round, you have a chance to get this guy, go for this guy.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I like it. I like it. Seth, you explain that well. You want to jump into this right now. I'll hop on in. It is, uh, it is draft season officially, guys, so go check that out. Um, and my favorite place to start drafts right now is underdog. We're getting kind of the tail end of underdog Jordan. Yeah but you can still do it, it's the best.

Speaker 4:

What do they got left I can look at their.

Speaker 2:

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Speaker 4:

So in the $25, uh, best ball mania, I think that's the million dollar, that's the mill. $30 million a first. Uh, there's 65% full. I think we all have one entry into that.

Speaker 2:

Yes.

Speaker 4:

The sucky thing is we're all in the same draft. So, um, they got that. They got someone $1,000, $250, one the big dog, but uh, yeah, so I have. And then they still got that. Weekly winners, that's not. That has not really filled that that well, honestly, and I'm kind of surprised by that because that's payout every week. Right, it's payout every week. Um, I need to hop in that and I'm actually excited for that one, so I'm looking forward to that one. Let's. I was going to try to find it's about half full, 50% full, so I got three entries into that. I think I want to put a couple more entries into that. So, yeah, perfect.

Speaker 2:

So let's hop in. We have a 12 man draft set up right now. Guys, it's a. The total rounds is. We got 14 rounds on here, so pretty close.

Speaker 3:

14, I said 15. Sorry, 14.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, 14. So we're going to tell you what our favorite player is per round and maybe this is some way you can. Maybe you reach on a guy if you want to reach, or maybe you he's right there.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Maybe he's just right there perfectly, but I think my favorite guy in the first round you know, if picks are not an option I I think it's pretty obvious. I think everyone would agree with that Justin Jefferson is my favorite guy ultimately to take in the first round. Is anyone totally different with that?

Speaker 3:

You think that's almost like a consensus in this industry, right Like I think everyone would agree he might be the best player.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, no, I absolutely. I talked to a guy yesterday. He was a Raiders fan and he was kind of happy that the guy who has the first pick in his league is a 49ers fan, because he said he's going to get Justin Jefferson at one two in the draft instead, because that guy's going to pick McCaffrey Wow. Yeah, yeah, that's 49er fans for you.

Speaker 3:

Yep, that's a. It's unfortunate when your fan, your fan base, pulls you down to pick the wrong pick, but it's all right.

Speaker 2:

What are you, jordan? What are you Jefferson's? Got to be your favorite first? I don't think yeah.

Speaker 4:

I mean just for me, jefferson Chase CMC should be like a one, two, three given Um, but I, uh, I kind of like like in the back half of the round, I really like the um, just kind of like when you can grab like the AJ Brown um and this one, like Tyree Kilo goes really late. This is actually a really weird muck draft, yeah.

Speaker 2:

This is very weird. I just pulled up sleeper. You know they are a sponsor of ours, but I just pulled that up to see what they would do. They definitely are all over the place. I think most of these guys are still first round picks for the most part, but it's not necessarily in the order it should be.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, absolutely not so. So I kind of just erased the order out of my head. I think what Jordan? Said, though I think, like AJ Brown at the very end of the first round, is a really good pick, and you can get another receiver If you're plenty, if you're, if you're a snake drafting it, you can get another receiver right after real quick.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, um, no, yeah, I, I like, yes, I agree with that. I like going like get a receiver back half and then, and then, um, get another receiver like top, like just what Seth said top of the second round, yeah.

Speaker 3:

Starting the draft. I think Jordan I actually mean Jordan had a fun joke about this a couple days ago but I basically reset what Jordan said, I think last part or two pods ago. But if you can get two solid receivers and get a a or an RB one on a team and maybe reach on a second RB with high potential, like that is a good way to build your team. You have two really good receivers, you have a decent to good running back, another, another running back. You're kind of taking a shot on and then you just go grab great receivers. At the end of your draft that's obviously if you have a two receiver in a in a flex right and two running backs.

Speaker 4:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

For sure that's. I mean kind of traditional format there.

Speaker 2:

I don't know if you guys want to go second round here or what you're thinking with. I like this guy. He told me he was, he was concerned. Should he take Jess and Jefferson or should he take Jamir Chase? And I think it's slam dunk Jefferson every single time. If he's there, I think you have to take him with.

Speaker 3:

Well, just the amount of, I mean there's, I mean it's. I feel like on the bangles they're going to spread the ball a little bit more. Obviously, chase is the most talented player there, but I mean, with Tyler Boyd and I don't know why I'm a T Higgins on that team, like you, have a more of a complete wide receiver set there, whereas Jefferson is the main, is the spearhead of that offense and you're going to get him the ball every time, whereas on the bangles it's kind of more of a three headed monster sort of thing, with kind of Chase being obviously the bigger head, but it's it's more of a group, whereas Jefferson's the spearhead where the whole offense relies on him. He goes down the Vikings probably won't be that good, yeah, whereas whereas the bangles, I feel like, could totally survive without Chase.

Speaker 4:

Well, they did last year, they did last year they did last year.

Speaker 3:

Yep T Higgins stepped up, the whole team did and they survived without him.

Speaker 4:

Uh yeah, yeah, I agree, it's Jefferson. I think anyone is not taking Jefferson. Number one overall is just I don't know, I can't help you 49er fans are the only exception. I can't help you.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, maybe if it's standard league.

Speaker 4:

No, I still think it's Jefferson. Yeah, there's no, like I, just yeah, you're not. Yeah, if you have no, honestly I'll make it take about a bull take. If you have the number one overall pick and you're not, to Justin Jefferson, I guarantee you will not win your league.

Speaker 3:

It's probably good.

Speaker 4:

It would have to?

Speaker 2:

yeah, it'd have to be the percentage of people who have the number one overall pick that don't take Justin Jefferson, I bet will be low.

Speaker 4:

Uh, when it comes to like winning your league, yeah, okay.

Speaker 2:

All right, so round two. Just looking at this here, I think my favorite pick Jordan might be.

Speaker 3:

I know who mine is but go ahead.

Speaker 2:

Oh, that's a wrap. I think Waddle might be my favorite second round guy Kind of excited about Waddle, I don't know or Garrett Wilson, what are you thinking, jordan?

Speaker 4:

I think I'm actually gonna surprise you If I can get Nick Chubb in the second round. I really like that.

Speaker 2:

Okay, so this second round here, just to see who's on it.

Speaker 4:

We have Ramon J Stevenson, which I don't mean to just conflict what I just said about taking receiver-receiver, but like I also really like if you can get receiver and a really good running back and then Nick Chubb and then go receiver-receiver. You know, like I want three, I want two out of my first in my three. First three picks, first three rounds. I want some combination of receiver-running back, receiver-receiver, receiver-running back.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, like I think one thing that could like really follow you pretty I wouldn't say easily, but like I think Garrett Wilson in the second round might be my favorite. I mean we saw what talent he had last year. We have Aaron Rodgers there now too. I mean he's gonna be the focal point of that passing game. I think that would just be the guy I would want to target in the second round. Obviously, I couldn't, I wouldn't disagree with Jordan's pick in Chubb, I think St Brown, if you could get to him in the second round. But like I said, like in what we're seeing on this draft too, he was the first pick of the second round. It's gonna be hard to get the guys the him if you're in the middle or at the end On this second round.

Speaker 2:

Right here it's Ramon J Stevenson, Tony Pollard, Jalen Hertz, Devonte Adams, Josh Jacobs, Jalen Waddle, Derek Henry, Garrett Wilson, CD Lamb, Nick Chubb, Jonathan Taylor, Amonra, St Brown.

Speaker 4:

In the reverse order of what you just read it. You read it backwards.

Speaker 2:

Yes, I read it. I read it from left to right, but yeah, so, yeah, I think I like I'll stick with Waddle, would you?

Speaker 4:

why are you? I would not take Jonathan Taylor over Nick Chubb right now.

Speaker 2:

No, I would not. No, they do say they did report come out on sleeper today that he is expecting to return to practice this week.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, he just doesn't want to be there, though, yeah, he doesn't. What about? I mean, obviously, the computer drafted Josh Jacobs here, but I mean that's a situation we have to talk about. You know, he's not in Las Vegas, do you think he ends up playing Like?

Speaker 2:

there's a chance he won't play. I think these running backs might start not playing.

Speaker 4:

And Zemir Wyatt has, as we're talking, 13 carries for 43 yards and a touchdown. Yeah. In their pre-season game. So yeah, I'm not touching Josh Jacobs.

Speaker 2:

I don't think I'm touching Jonathan Taylor.

Speaker 4:

Honestly, I'm not touching a lot of running backs in the first two rounds. In the first round I'm definitely not touching any of them, except for CMC and so yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, according to this ADP, mahomes did go in the first round. He did. We didn't bring that up. I guess I could read the first round Guys that were in the first crown round we had Jefferson Kelsey, mccaffrey, echler, chase Diggs, bijan Cooper, cup Tyree, Kale, saquon, barkley, mahomes, aj Brown, we can jump around. So I said to ReavCap round two. I said Jalen Waddle, seth said Garrett Wilson and Jordan said Nick Chubb. Those are more on the early end of the second round. I'm wondering if they'll get to a point where we're kind of on the front end or on the back end ever. We're kind of staying front end, front end. Third round it went Higgins Alave, mark Andrews, breece Hall, najee Harris, dk Metcalf, lamar Jackson, devonta Smith, josh Allen, debo, samuel Travis, eatian and Joe Mixon. Seems like this is the round where running back started coming off the board here. Jordan.

Speaker 3:

Well, I think this is where I would want to bite on running back, but I think I'm gonna let Jordan take his guy here in the third round, which I think who you would pick, jordan, my favorite pick of this third round. Yeah, hopefully we're on the same.

Speaker 2:

I think, I'm saying, I think Alave.

Speaker 4:

I was gonna go Alave.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, Alave, I didn't see him do anything really today. I know Derek Carr had a really good opening drive for a touchdown pass, but looked like the Saints were moving the ball really good today. I know it's just preseason, but I think that's a good spot for Alave right there, right Front end of the third. That's kind of where we're seeing him. Has Calvin Ridley come off the board yet? Jordan?

Speaker 3:

No, no, he hasn't, which he actually should be drafted in the third round for what it's worth, or yeah, I think so.

Speaker 4:

Do you?

Speaker 3:

He's in the next round, but I would lean here between two. I would go either Devonta Smith or Travis Eatian, depending on who you thought I was gonna say Eatian. I thought I was gonna say Eatian, but if I were at the, let's say I was team 12,. Team 12 took AJ Brown and then two-one, they took St Brown and then at the end they ended up taking Mix and Eatian and got stolen right before him at 3-11. I think you would have a pretty solid team if you had AJ Brown, almonaross, st Brown and Travis Eatian, like if those are your first three picks and you have the last pick, your team 12, and you're at the very end. I think you got a pretty solid team so far. I agree that would be my strategy. Or if I had a running back, like I took Nick Chubb in the second round, like you said, jordan, I'd probably go lean like a lot of it, like you guys said. Or in the back half of the round, devonta Smith.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and we just hit auto-drift here on sleeper with this thing and it's a little wacky, but for the most part guys are in the right round.

Speaker 4:

Gosh, I hate Debo Sandmill in the third round.

Speaker 2:

I don't want Debo Sandmill in the whole and the third round.

Speaker 3:

I'm not touching Debo at all we could bring that up.

Speaker 2:

Like guys, you don't want those rounds either. Like Breece Hall, I don't think he's gonna be 100% until week five is what they're saying, right now they just have a lot of guys back. There too, they have a lot of guys and Breece Hall could be a league winner, though I will say that Back into the season, when you're in playoffs, he might be on fire. He might really be hitting his stride by then. Just tough when your third round picks not.

Speaker 4:

Available. Yeah, they help get you there. Like, the difference between him and Javante is Javante Williams is being drafted at a way later ADP and Javante seems healthier than Breece Hall right now. Javante played, did he play? He got actually played in that Breeze game, I think so did he.

Speaker 2:

I did not pay attention to that preseason. I did like what Sean Payton said, though he said I know Giligan hats anymore. That's those hats, that those guys wear.

Speaker 4:

It's called a bucket hat.

Speaker 2:

pretty clear it's called a bucket hat, but he said Giligan hat, like Giligan's Island, Javante did not play. I think he's playing next round. Yeah, you had. What's his name? Garrett Wilson wearing a bucket hat. Okay, fourth round favorite pick here. That's an easy one for me. Yeah, it has Keenan Allen, deandre Hopkins, Joe Burrow, jameer Gibbs, amari Cooper, calvin Ridley, aaron Jones, kenneth Walker, tj Hawkinson, chris Watson, terry McClourn and Miles Sanders. Chris Watson, he's Christian Watson. What am I thinking here?

Speaker 3:

I'll let Jordan go ahead and take his boy here, but I don't think you're getting him in the fourth round, jordan.

Speaker 2:

I think any like Jordan's in. He's probably gonna have to reach higher than the fourth round.

Speaker 3:

I think, it just depends like I think, I don't think he's going in the fourth round, though I don't think any sane person would wait that long to draft them in the fourth round.

Speaker 2:

Would you rather have Calvin Ridley or DK Metcalf? Cause DK Metcalf is the third.

Speaker 3:

Calvin Ridley, 100% yeah.

Speaker 4:

Here's the problem, guys. I don't think I think we're in a bubble right now with how we think about Calvin Ridley.

Speaker 3:

Do we really?

Speaker 4:

I think we are.

Speaker 3:

So I'm not sure why.

Speaker 4:

Though so I have here ADP, espn number 47, this is in full point PPR. I don't have the half, yeah, I don't have half on ESPN. So DK Metcalf, so he's 47 on ESPN FFC, is that the? What is FFC, trent, you know?

Speaker 2:

that.

Speaker 4:

It's just another. Okay, 35 NFL NFLcom. 36 sleeper 39. That's round four. Yeah, that's mid round four.

Speaker 3:

But why is DK Metcalf? I mean, do they think Geno's? Obviously they don't think Geno's better than Trevor Lawrence, or they think the Seahawks just have a better offense, or do they think?

Speaker 4:

they're just gonna. He's 41 ADP on sleeper and a half point, Like. I think it's just. People are scared of Calvin Ridley.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, especially with all the maybe, the how he kind of left in the middle of the season. That one time it's kind of I think truthfully, I think that's behind him. But yeah, I think people who have draft him before don't want to do it again Maybe. But I think there's just gonna be more.

Speaker 3:

But if you're gonna get him in the fourth round, I think like that's not that too hard, Like I would die on that sword If I took the risk on Calvin Ridley and he left mid season, like I think it would be worth the risk.

Speaker 2:

Personally, I don't think Devonta Smith should be going ahead of Calvin Ridley.

Speaker 3:

I don't think so either, and I don't think DK Metcalf should be there. I'm a Seahawks or Debo Samuel, debo Samuel, 100%.

Speaker 4:

It's just. There's just people who are scared of Calvin Ridley. And so I like you say that Trent and I just don't know like, even like in one of our group tags, like the league, you're talking about Trent. I don't think we're gonna have a problem getting them where we want to.

Speaker 2:

Oh, I think someone might. I think someone might want.

Speaker 4:

I've heard people talk about him that are just like, ah, they question him.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, okay.

Speaker 4:

I think I have, like you guys have had some bias because of how how I feel like we've kind of all group think this a little bit for better or for worse, like I think it's for better Jordan.

Speaker 3:

I really do too, like I don't. I have a hard time believing that he is not gonna be who we think he's gonna be, or at least like somewhat close right.

Speaker 4:

I know, I for sure feel the same way, but I feel like as a pod we have all, just we're so high on Ridley that we're in a little bit of a bubble, I think.

Speaker 3:

I, I mean, I think it's a good bubble to be in. Maybe it makes us really famous. I don't know, Maybe he will hear this clip, Trent, Maybe flood this, this, this clip out and just be like hey guys, we've been telling you why is he going so late. You need to reach on this guy.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and maybe you do need to yeah, Cause I'm just looking at second round here. Probably not anyone in the second round this website has Calvin or the ADP at 27.

Speaker 4:

So well. I mean it just, it depends, like it's just.

Speaker 3:

Like there's an argument too, like Calvin they could have a better season than T Higgins, Like that wouldn't be like too far out of like my imagination.

Speaker 4:

I think I ranked him ahead of T Higgins.

Speaker 3:

That's what I'm saying. I'm like I he's the number one guy, t Higgins is the number two and they're both really good players. The Bengals maybe are slightly better offense, but Calvin is the number one guy, whereas Chase is the one in the Bengals. Yeah, it's just maybe this all. I'll transition into my favorite pick in the fourth round. So this is a guy I got in one of my drafts. I have Christian Watson. The Packers can be a little scary. I did watch some of their preseason game because I actually wanted to see how I knew Watson was going to play in. Is it Dobbs or Dubs? What is how do you?

Speaker 2:

use it Dobbs. Oh, it is Dobbs. Hey, what's up? I mess up on that one every time. I don't think I'll ever get it.

Speaker 3:

Okay, whatever it is, romeo, dubs or Dobbs. I know he got more targets that game and I've heard, I've been hearing something saying love is that's his favorite target is Dobbs or Dubs, and so that did make me a little nervous. But the thing about Christian Watson is we saw how much of a free key was last year and that was it's different. Aaron Rodgers is throwing to him too, but we did see that one game where love was throwing to him. But I think I know Jordan would just probably stay away from him just for the lack, just for the sake of the Jordan loves throwing to him.

Speaker 4:

Jordan love look good from what I saw.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I mean that's what I thought too, but as a guy reached on, I think he has a good potential to be the D guy in Green Bay and maybe it's a little early, but it's someone I would want to reach on if you need that second or third receiver.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, I don't disagree.

Speaker 2:

So fourth round man, I'm kind of I'm really getting the. I like Calvin Ridley, I'm thinking I like Miles Sanders. I'm kind of getting excited about Miles Sanders, jordan, I think there's gonna be a lot of dump downs. I also have Miles Sanders in my 10-year-old With Breece Hall or, no, bryce Young. Sorry, I think there's gonna be some dump downs there. I think he's a good pass catcher. I don't. I feel like he's kind of a sneaky back.

Speaker 4:

You said Miles.

Speaker 2:

Sanders, you said Miles Sanders on the back. You're like the biggest Miles Sanders hater. I know, I know, but I've kind of, like his new. I like his new landing spot with Bryce Young. Bryce Young throws the running backs a lot half point PPR.

Speaker 4:

I didn't expect to come in here in that.

Speaker 2:

And honestly, I like Calvin Ridley more obviously here, jordan, but I do want to be a little bit different. But yeah, I'm getting more and more on the Miles Sanders train this year. I like the landing spot for him. So I know that's a shocker. Okay, let's go over to the fifth round here. Before we get in the fifth round, guys, the dude's favorite place to get our fancy football trophies is trophy smack. It's draft season, like we've said already. And do you have your trophy? Do you have a belt? Do you just do cash? Well, maybe it's time to do a trophy. You put everybody's names on it or a belt. So for 15% off, go to trophysmackcom. Forward slash dudes. Help take your fancy football league up to the next level. Last place awards, draft boards, loser awards trophy smack has all your fantasy football needs, guys. So fifth round here. And the fifth round here, guys, in our Justin Fields, drake London, dj Moore, jk Dobbins, alexander Madison, cam Acres, george Kittle, damian Pierce, james Conner, mike Williams, deandre Swift, justin Herbert. Justin Fields had a really good week here. He went three for three, 82 yards, a long touchdown to DJ Moore, where he had a really nice play. Maybe that bumps DJ Moore up a little bit more in these leagues. I don't know if what is your feeling exactly on DJ Moore in Chicago Jordan.

Speaker 4:

You getting a little excited for it, or he had a nice catch touchdown, yeah, in the preseason game. But yeah, I like DJ more. I'm not opposed to DJ more. I have him in one of my Diancy leagues, so I hope he does well. But I don't know, I just kind of want to. It's a way to see for me.

Speaker 2:

I'll throw DJ more as my favorite guy here. I J fields, I think, progresses this year in the passing game. I think DJ more helps him with that and for the value of getting a number one wide receiver that could be on the up and the fifth round. Dj more is kind of like the ultimate value wide receiver in fancy football and I don't know if it's any different this year. I still think he's going in a good spot and he can make plays after the catch. That's one thing I like about him. But I my favorite guy in the fifth round is DJ more and I think, as your number two wide receiver, to be a number one like DJ more, I think that's pretty good.

Speaker 4:

Are you coming off Drake, london track.

Speaker 2:

I still like Drake London. I like DJ more to more, though I think Interesting. I think I'd choose between the two. I'd go DJ more.

Speaker 3:

I'm trying to think who I'd want here.

Speaker 2:

It gets a little more difficult in these later rounds, like which pick is your?

Speaker 3:

favorite, a lot of running backs kind of went in this round.

Speaker 4:

I like acres. I think acres is my favorite.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I've seen acres or Connor and I think, yeah, james Connor is interesting because he is like the only guy there, like everyone else on the on that roster. I mean they signed Marlon Mack RIP and then he tours other Achilles, you know like yeah, he's not.

Speaker 2:

yeah, you said RIP, he is not dead, but he did tears. Achilles, I mean his entire career, is dead. Yeah, it is.

Speaker 3:

That's what I'm saying and I think if everyone falls asleep or everyone understands that Marlon Mack is like a, a working yes, it's. It's like a working, fun meme to go about, but not necessarily that his injury is a meme. But you know, when he signs a team, everyone's excited. You know everyone wants Marlon Mack on their team on sleeper. But I think my favorite pick here might be um DeAndre Swift. So you're not, you're not scared off DeAndre Swift, you're not getting scared yet Seth.

Speaker 4:

Not scared yet. Not scared that uh, kenneth Gainwell got got to rest yesterday and uh, rashad Penney and DeAndre Swift played.

Speaker 3:

It makes me. It makes me a little scared, but I still think it's going to be something that's going to be interesting when he's. He's going to be on that field a lot, regardless if he's taking carries or not, like he'll be seeing, he'll be seeing playing time. I don't know, I was right there with you on the Swift band, but the game the gain well shirt bothered me and then after you said that and I was like, yeah, you're right, he did play a gain.

Speaker 4:

Well, got the starters rest yesterday.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, but also which is free?

Speaker 4:

It's so annoying because I've been the biggest gain. Well, guy, like I was high on, I think I haven't been dying.

Speaker 3:

Okay, but let me say this though All right, isn't Patrick Mahomes playing in the game today?

Speaker 4:

Patrick Mahomes played like one drive, that's what I'm saying. No, but my point is is that Kenneth Gainwell didn't play.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, but what if he I don't know has a boo boo? Like Phil. He went full fill on us. He's like hey guys, my ankle hurts. They're like okay.

Speaker 2:

No, I. Is there a possibility that one of those running backs gets cut? Maybe they're trying to trade one of them before the pre-season's over or something I don't know Well. Swift's not getting cut. They just paid him. Yeah, I know, but maybe they can trade him or something, I don't know. And also, I think he just won a lot of good running backs and that team has with that line. It might not matter who's running the ball, but it's just what guy is going to be running the ball. That game I think it's going to be. You know, you're a coin flip every single week and that's why I'm not huge on. And then there's hurts, right, and then there's hurts which hurts Hurts. Rushing touchdowns, you would think should regress this year. He had so many last year. I think he still gets 10. Yeah, so you had acres Jordan, I'll go. I'll go Swift here, okay, and I went DJ more.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, I'm going acres.

Speaker 2:

Uh, I want to know at one point we should all say like a quarterback, probably should be like well, I think that went in the fifth.

Speaker 3:

I think this is a good one in the six. I think there's a good one in the six.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 3:

Okay, fine. I think one of us can say that one is six, all right.

Speaker 2:

So we'll go six round here. So we had DJ more, cam acres and Deandre Swift. Next we have round six. We have Jerry Judy, which I really don't know what to think about yet. Tyler Lockett, kyle Pitts, dalvin Cook which why is Dalvin Cook going in the sixth round? He's not even on a team yet. That doesn't make sense. Trevor Lawrence, brandon Iuk, alvin Kamara, michael Pittman, chris Godwin, markies Brown, dallas Goddard and Christian Kirk Who'd you say, trent, you were upset about? I'm surprised that Dalvin Cook. Did Dalvin Cook finally sign? Did I miss that? No, so why is he picked? I don't know. I read it. I don't know. I read it out loud and it just kind of hit me like why is Dalvin Cook going in?

Speaker 4:

the guy. We got a guy who's still he's at home eating eating munchies at home Josh Jacobs in the second round, so like.

Speaker 2:

I feel better. Yeah, that's true. People that tells you like how?

Speaker 4:

how bad running back is it?

Speaker 2:

It's bad Um. So, Seth, I'm saying you're probably saying Trevor Lawrence in the sixth is kind of what you're liking here.

Speaker 3:

Um, yeah, I think if you can get Trevor Lawrence in the sixth. Sorry, I just punched the mic but I think Trevor Lawrence is like target quarterback, I mean who's? I think all the quarterbacks drafted above him have a potential Obviously, I think are better, him better than him fantasy wise. But I think Trevor Lawrence, I think Jordan I kind of agree with this he has a he's going to finish top 10 quarterback. I think he has a potential of finishing, finishing top five this year. I I would agree with that. I think the rushing is hard to put away, right, the the rushing upside of fields and hurts. And Allen is hard and Jackson really to hard to put away. Like that kind of puts you out of the top five if you're not running Right. But I think, purely pass wise, we leave. You can look at Patrick Mahomes, justin Herbert, joe Burrow, and I think he is pretty close to those guys when it comes to there and he might not have. I think he has. I think his weapons might even be better than Justin Herbert's I think.

Speaker 2:

Just yeah. I kind of like uh, I see it in here. What is your thoughts on Christian Kirk here, Jordan? You think he's finally going to get separated or you think he still produces? Pretty well, I think he could produce. I think he's the wider super two and a really good offense.

Speaker 4:

So for me he's like the T Higgins, like all those guys Mike Williams, all the guys who are Devontae Smith like obviously not maybe fully of that caliber, but like we don't not draft Devontae Smith in the third round because AJ Brown's there right, like it's just like you don't not draft Christian Kirk in the fifth, sixth you know what I'm saying. Like yeah, um, I just think the office is going to be really, and I'm biased. I'm a homer, so I you know, like I just, I just think the office is going to be really good Okay. I don't think I said a. Thing. Right, I haven't either.

Speaker 2:

I'm not a. I'm not a fan of Brandon I you either Like both those 49 are wide receivers. I don't really know what's going to happen there.

Speaker 4:

I don't love this round, If I mean.

Speaker 2:

I don't love anyone really. I don't think Goddard's. I think Goddard's a decent guy.

Speaker 4:

I don't hate Goddard.

Speaker 2:

Probably Godwin, I'm thinking. I still think he might get some of those receptions because of how he plays the game. Maybe Godwin's not that bad, maybe he's still getting five catches a game or something like that. I know it's Baker Mayfield. Uh, I know Mike Evans is out to you. Know, sarda, has Mike Evans been drafted in this draft? Yet Godwin went before him right.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, it's pretty standard.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, mike Evans, I know, came out and said he's going to break the record for a thousand yard receiving this year which would be pretty Well, you know he's done nine straight. He's trying to go for the 10th. Uh, I probably Godwin. I think it's my favorite. Maybe Kamara I'm looking at team six Doesn't look terrible with Kamara right there. I know he's missing three games. I don't know what Kamara is going to be like the whole offense. I think Godwin's my guy here that I like the most Is it. Is it I'm not taking pits.

Speaker 4:

Trent, trent's coming off his falcons. I'm starting to feel it.

Speaker 2:

I still like the falcons.

Speaker 4:

I'm here. I'm sensing that that Trent is a a little scared of the falcons a little bit.

Speaker 2:

No, no, no, no. I'm just saying per round. I think I like Godwin better here. What about Lockett? Is this the year that Lockett finally kind?

Speaker 4:

of goes back. He's like top six, he's top 16, like every year I'm not drafting Tyler Lockett.

Speaker 3:

I'm not drafting Tyler Lockett, partly because of the guy in the seventh round.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 4:

I'm gonna go. Goddard is my favorite.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's Goddard. It's early for a tight end for you, jordan, right.

Speaker 4:

I just.

Speaker 3:

I don't know, it's a weird round.

Speaker 2:

So we had Goddard Godwin and Lawrence there. Round seven we have Mike Evans, javante Williams, rashid White, dak Prescott, isaiah Pacheco, david Montgomery, JSN, darren Waller, evan Ingram, aj Dillon, george Pickens and Deontay Johnson. I am gonna go with George Pickens here. I feel like all I'm doing is wide receivers. He's coming out saying he's the best wide receiver in the NFL. He had a nice touchdown this weekend in preseason. I think he. I think Pickens could be pretty good if they could figure out how to get him the ball and him and Deontay Johnson going right by each other. I know you're more of a Deontay Johnson guy, jordan, but I'm I'm, I'm getting really excited about George Pickens this year.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, I, I like George Pickens man there's. I really like Javante in the seventh.

Speaker 2:

I like Javante there too.

Speaker 4:

That's Rashad White. We're all the and Rashad White. Those two are kind of.

Speaker 2:

Rashad White, I think and there's a chance you could get Rashad White and Javante Williams on the same team if you want to reach a little bit. I almost like both of those guys more than anyone in the sixth round at a like.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, like for me, I could have took where like Goddard was. I could have took like Javante there and then came back and got Rashad White in the next round.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, Both those guys are gonna catch. Well, Rashad White's gonna catch a lot of passes too.

Speaker 4:

I was gonna just gonna pull up the Bucks depth chart really quick see who they have.

Speaker 2:

I don't think they, really I don't know if they have another running back, but they've all. They've like Rashad.

Speaker 4:

White Chase, Edmonds, Kishan Vaughn Now those guys scare me.

Speaker 2:

No, but yeah, like none of them really scare, none of them scare you really, though you know what I'm saying, so it could almost be any of them.

Speaker 4:

Rashad.

Speaker 2:

White. I like Rashad White a lot yeah.

Speaker 4:

I really like his talent. I like I mean, he was really I think he went Arizona State. He was really good.

Speaker 2:

No JSN in that round. Who do you say Seth? Do you go?

Speaker 3:

JSN, I would probably go JSN, just cause I think he's gonna pass up Tyler Lockett. Okay, just a.

Speaker 2:

So we got JS recap in round seven we have JSN, rashad White and George Pickens. Round eight Jordan Asson, jaheen Dotson, zach Charbonnet, trelawn Burks, james Cook, kaderius, tony Antonio, gibson, d'shawn Watson, brian Robinson, brandon Cooks, Tuha and Michael Thomas. I feel weird like round eight. I do not like Michael Thomas, as everyone knows he I know cars really been talking him up. He that was one of the main reasons he said he started he signed there was because of Michael Thomas Card. Look, decent preseason today and Michael Thomas kind of fits Derek Carr's play style. Right. I know you kind of said that, jordan, but you have Chris Oave there and Michael Thomas. Maybe Michael Thomas is one of those guys that he really hasn't played him what? Two and a half years he played a little bit last year was okay. I think yeah, I think, my yeah, he always gets hurt. But I think my favorite guy in this I'm just bringing all that up but I think my favorite probably is James Cook in this round.

Speaker 4:

I really want you to say Michael Thomas, I can't make myself. I can't make myself sit, but I really want to. I was like Tram was gonna say that Miles Sanders and Michael Thomas was a favorite big stage round and I'm pretty sure he sent those guys to the veins of Gula Gula like forever.

Speaker 2:

So back in the day. They're still there. Yeah, I'm going with, I am going. Who'd I say? Right there, where'd I find it? I said James James. Cook. But yeah, Michael Thomas is growing on me and that scares me. So here I am, ready to be hurt again after saying it would never happen, ever, ever again. I'm like at the point where I'm like a thrill, Michael Thomas doesn't seem that bad for someone. That car, like will end up locking onto right. Yeah, but what was he being drafted? Last year? The same, but I feel better about this quarterback situation with car who will lock? Onto people than.

Speaker 4:

James, that's fair. I just think he might look on a lot of A2. So yeah.

Speaker 2:

And cars all jacked. Now you see that picture of him with his cut offs. Yeah, you see it, Seth. Is that your? Yeah, it's Seth screensaver on his computer right here. That's weird. It's true, Seth. What do you got here?

Speaker 3:

Man. I think. I don't know if Jordan said one yet, but I think I'll leave him for Jordan. I'm going to go Cadarius Tony here. I think Cadarius Tony has the potential to be I don't want to say top 10, probably top 15, wider see where I think he has the potential. Obviously, we all know the skill set he provides. He's also on the best offense in the league. Now, take, take back what I said a little bit here. Travis Kelsi is on that team and he is the focal point of that offense. Everything goes through Travis Kelsi, Everything plays off Travis Kelsi. But I think Tony is not nearly as good as what is, as what Tyreek was there, but I think he can be something of that and I think there's value in that, especially in the eighth round.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I think we've all been kind of waiting for we have to see if he's going to be healthier or not right, Because he is in injury history. We've all been kind of waiting for which one of these chiefs wide receivers is finally going to be the guy and Tony showed some sparks last year, right? Do you not think it's going to be Skymore Jordan? Are you thinking it's more, tony? I think?

Speaker 4:

it's. I think it's Tony, I think it's that's who they want to be. I think it could be Skymore, I think it could be Justin Ross, Rashid Rah. I mean, it could be a lot of guys and I think at the end of the day, it's still going to be like a wide receiver by committee type of deal. But I do like Kaderi and Sony, I think I think one of those chiefs guys it's going to be one of them. I think one, I think one of them, like, the problem is it might be like a different one every single week and it just-.

Speaker 2:

That's what I'm afraid of.

Speaker 4:

I do think Tony, though is, is good. I like Tony, I think eighth round. You're not. The risk isn't really there in the eighth round. The reward is though yeah, I like I think I'm going to go Addison in the eighth, but I I'm at the first pick of the eighth here. But I also like Dotson a lot too. I really like these three receivers in this round the Addison, dotson and Tony.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, there seems like there's some good wide receiver depth here that I was kind of surprised with, because you have Tony. Yeah, you could you?

Speaker 4:

could you have some guys in like that seventh, eighth, ninth round? That aren't bad and I think that's why, like I've talked about, it is like going two receivers and a running back in your top three and then maybe grabbing a couple other running backs or another receiver, then a couple running, so like then you go, then you go. So basically you're going receiver running back receiver, then I'm probably grabbing another receiver, then two running backs and then receiver I'm filling out a couple more receivers. But I also don't worry about tightness much as other people do. You know there's a good tight in there and might grab it.

Speaker 2:

But yeah, I haven't set a tight end yet, which I normally like to take a tight end, and so you said Addison was your favorite. I said James Cook and Seth said. Who'd you say Seth Kaderis?

Speaker 3:

Tony, kaderis Tony.

Speaker 2:

All right. So round nine we have Gabe Davis, Samajai Pirine Is that Dwayne Harris says name Damien Harris, Pat Fryermuth, Anthony Richardson, Quintin Johnson, Juju Juju Smith, Schuster, David Najoku, Rashad Penny, Jamal Williams, Aaron Rodgers and Kurt Cousins. I think I'm going to go with Jamal Williams here. I think he's still going to have a little bit of a TD upside there. If you're if you go really strong wide receiver, I think this is a good round. You can get Jamal Williams and you might get six touchdowns or something this year every week. I hate that. You hate Jamal Williams? I? I think they like. I think they pay him money that they're going to give him these red zone opportunities. You don't think so? Are you worried about Taysom Hill? Maybe I'm just too. Maybe I'm too much in on the Saints this year. I feel like I'm growing, turning into a Saints fan.

Speaker 4:

Oh no, I just, I just don't like you said, how many touchdowns.

Speaker 2:

I said, six minimum is what I would think.

Speaker 4:

I think he's still going to be a glove, though I know he had a crazy amount.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, crazy yeah, and maybe it's just a total fluke, right, not fluke.

Speaker 4:

It's just you can't run that good and then, like it's not sustainable, I, they have Kamal or they're going to use, they have other guys they're going to use, like.

Speaker 2:

Who's the other guy? What's the rookie he got?

Speaker 4:

He sprained his knees.

Speaker 2:

He's a uh, she's an. Always fun for.

Speaker 4:

Jamal Williams might be good for like week one and two, maybe so three. Like hundred Miller still come off an injury.

Speaker 2:

I'm just too biased for what he did for my teams last year and, like Scotty Fishbowl and stuff like that guy carried and you're right, I think he's a fan favorite. I think he's pretty good, but yeah, maybe he's not the best pick there. Jordan would you.

Speaker 4:

I don't know Like it's just, there's just.

Speaker 2:

I think for a zero RB team. I like Jamal, I don't hate it.

Speaker 4:

I just there's other guys like there's a guy in the 10th round I'd rather take in a heartbeat over Jamal Williams.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 4:

Two guys yeah.

Speaker 2:

When we, when we get there, tell me who those are, what? Who do you? Got here Jordan? I kind of like. I kind of like some I know you don't Jordan, but I kind of like PRN too. Is this your RB?

Speaker 4:

like there's running backs being drafted in this round. I think all the running backs in the next round are a lot better. Probably gonna say it's another round that I just don't love. Probably say Quentin Johnson Excuse me, quentin Johnston, just cause the offense. He's talented. He had touched you on the other day yesterday. Not that that means anything, but I don't know. Big target for Herbert.

Speaker 2:

And we do have our dudes and duds for the season coming up next week. So you won't wanna miss that when we pick our favorite guys that we don't wanna leave drafts without and guys we don't wanna touch. So you're saying Quentin Johnson, jordan Seth, what are you seeing here? Like Anthony Richardson went, I don't know if I'm willing to take Anthony Richardson this early in a read draft. This year.

Speaker 3:

I'm not gonna touch Anthony Richardson in a read draft.

Speaker 2:

I would take him like in probably the 11th or 12th if he was still there, yeah, but I would think I would have.

Speaker 3:

I think I'd rather have in this round that who also went in the ninth round was Aaron Rodgers and Kirk Cousins. I think I'd rather have one of them. Yeah. Anthony Richardson. Right now I think I'm gonna go Gabe Davis here. I know he's kind of a big boomer bus guy, but I feel like I've been seeing some things saying that they want to get him the ball more in Buffalo.

Speaker 2:

I've had him the last two years and that is just the ultimate feast or famine guy that. I don't know if I wanna touch him ever again. But I think Josh Allen's injury last year affected him more than people gave him credit for, and I think that affected Gabe Davis and everyone in that offense. Yeah, he might be right. Yeah, like that's probably the right spot to take Gabe Davis as the ninth round.

Speaker 4:

It's definitely the lowest you may ever get him, and last year he was getting drafted way too fast.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, he shot up last year and he had some crazy games too.

Speaker 3:

but he had some games that he won for me last year, but also he had some games I think he lost for me in other leagues.

Speaker 2:

All right round 12. I still haven't taken a quarterback yet. Round 10.

Speaker 3:

I still haven't taken a quarterback yet.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I saw the right there by O'Congua. I just saw the one two above him. I just want to take a quarterback here yet, which is a mistake we have, how is that Chica O'Congua, as I say his name?

Speaker 4:

Chica O'Conquo.

Speaker 2:

Chica O'Conquo. Odell Beckham Jr, dalton Kincaid, jameson Williams, williamson, elijah Mitchell, rashad Bateman, devon A Chain, zay Flowers, elijah Moore, khalil Herbert, cam Sutton.

Speaker 4:

Cortland Sutton.

Speaker 2:

Cortland Sutton and Dalton Schultz. I feel like I've actually done pretty good on these names for only having the first letter.

Speaker 3:

You've got better, Trent. I will say you have got better.

Speaker 2:

Um, I kind of like in this round here and I went reverse there. I like Jameson Williams in a lot. I haven't said a tight end yet. I don't mind Dalton Schultz in the 10th round with the young QB, but I think I'm gonna go with Jameson Williamson. I know he's suspended all those games.

Speaker 4:

It's just Williams, right, is it Williams? Yeah, you threw your. Throw me off there.

Speaker 2:

Okay, I'm gonna go with Jameson Williams. I do like him. I know he dropped a pass this weekend. I think LaPorte dropped a pass too, but I like the Lions, I like Jameson there, and that's pretty late and you should be able to have a couple good wide receivers before you get him if you wait till the 10th round, right. So I think that's my favorite pick in this whole round, and Elijah Moore is actually. They're saying a lot of good things about him at camp also. But I know you're in a big Deshaun Watson guide Jordan, but what are you thinking in this round? This is an interesting exercise actually, though I feel like-.

Speaker 3:

No, yeah, it makes you really, because I think for like this 10th round, I think I'd rather grab someone in the 11th than what went in the 10th. Here I think I'm gonna go Khalil Herbert here.

Speaker 4:

Okay, yeah, I was gonna say Khalil Herbert.

Speaker 3:

I'm gonna go Khalil Herbert, just because I think of what we've been talking about, like grabbing two solid receivers and getting a running back and also reaching on a running back. I think this is a running back you can reach on and I think Khalil Herbert is he's RB one in Chicago. I know Justin Fields is gonna run a lot in score touchdowns, but I also think in the red zone they're close and they need to run the ball. I think Herbert's gonna score touchdowns and I think, just for him being the guy there, I think that's the best one I like in the 10th round with what I'm seeing on the draft board.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, I'll go with my favorite. My next favorite outside of Herbert, is Devon A-Chain. Guy's electric, he's crazy fast. He looked good in the pre not that looking at the pre-signing game really matters, but like Rahim, moster, jeff Wilson, those guys for me are synonymous with injuries.

Speaker 3:

I think there's gonna be a lot of opportunity for Devon A-Chain at the season goes on and he is really fast, he's crazy fast he was so good, at that same end he ran a 4-3, right or something crazy like that, and he's electric, like the speed translates to football.

Speaker 4:

It's not like he just doesn't translate. It translates with him, you know, and he fits their system. Like he is a lot like Moster, like they're fast electric.

Speaker 3:

I think Moster and Wilson are like some of the fastest running backs. But they're old and injury prone and injury prone right.

Speaker 4:

And I really like A-Chain. I think he's gonna end up being the guy as the season goes on. He could be a guy who you hold on to him. You're not using him right away. You know weeks seven, eight, nine, 10, 11, 12, you know he starts to come on. So I like A-Chain quite a bit. I think he fits that system really, really well.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 4:

I want him as like my fourth or fifth RB.

Speaker 2:

All right. So we had Jameson Williams, devon A-Chain, and you said Coyle Herbert, right Seth Yep. All right, so round 11, daniel Jones, tyler Boyd, jerick McKinnon, alan Lazard Cole, comet, geno Smith, jared Goff, jacobi, myers, Sky Moore, darnell Mooney. I want to say I wanted to say Devonta, but I knew that wasn't right. And then Kendra Miller, is that right? Okay, my favorite pick in this round. I think this is kind of right here where I haven't picked a quarterback yet we're going to say the same thing.

Speaker 4:

No, you're going to say someone else yeah.

Speaker 2:

I'm going to say Jared Goff. I like Goff and I like this spot. We're getting him. He's going dead middle of the 11th round here. Lot of weapons plays in a dome. Nfc North, not really known for great defenses right now, at the moment, minnesota doesn't scare me. You play them twice and they're going to light up the scoreboard too, like Vikings, lions, that might be a game that we have circled on here. We do a live stream. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3:

Like that might be a fun game, Especially if it's it is.

Speaker 2:

no, I mean they're both domes, yeah, both domes, yeah, yeah, it'd be fun game and you have Packers defense maybe is the best defense in that league. I know Aiden Hutchinson's on the Lions. Maybe the Lions are on the up on defense. I don't really know. I don't think so. They weren't great last year. I think Aiden Hutchinson's going to be a lot better though. So I'm going Jared Goff, whereas the defense isn't really amazing and they can put up points and he's going to have to put up points. So I think Goff in the 11th round is not bad at all. I really like Goff in the 11th there. Jordan, do you want to say what you, what QB you would take here? Do you have someone else?

Speaker 4:

No, I'm going to go Daniel Jones here. I just like Daniel Jones this late, you know, in the 11th round. I just want someone I think he has upside, like he has upside rushing upside. Last year he ran for let's see if I can pull up his rushing yards here, sorry about this Um, seven rushing touchdowns, 708 rushing yards. He took off 120 times by far his biggest rushing rushing year of his career. He played all 16 games. The first time last year hit over 3000, he had a career year last year, 3000 passing yards. And he's the guy who I think it was real for him and I think he can take a step, a step up and so I think that offense, like they have weapons in that offense. So I think Daniel Jones is the guy who I will be targeting late in drafts as, like if I it's been a draft where I am waiting like heavily for a quarterback, so would you take, yeah, Like.

Speaker 2:

so if you don't get Patrick Mahomes, are you just going to wait till Daniel Jones, Jordan, or is there like another, like you know what I'm saying, or like Trevor Lawrence?

Speaker 4:

are you saying yeah, it depends, like it just depends where I'm at.

Speaker 2:

Maybe I'm asking too many personal questions. Try to figure out what Jordan's going to do in our fantasy football draft.

Speaker 4:

I don't hate like Kirk Cousins late.

Speaker 3:

I don't hate Jared.

Speaker 4:

Goff late. I like Daniel Jones because you're getting rushing upside late.

Speaker 3:

I think that's who I would want out of the quarterbacks down there. I think I would want Daniel Jones over Kirk Cousins. I think that's what I would want to.

Speaker 2:

I really want to like get to a lot of leagues. Like I really like him. He just scares me so much on like is he going to play the full season? Like it wouldn't shock me if two of like had to retire like week four this year. You know what I'm saying. Like it's just two of scares me, but I really like his situation.

Speaker 4:

The Rogers intrigues me too, a little bit. I'm not going to lie.

Speaker 2:

Aaron Rogers that late, yeah, that late.

Speaker 3:

I know you haven't been big on Rogers, but yeah, yeah, you kind of down talk, but like you get him in the ninth round.

Speaker 2:

It's like that is really worth the.

Speaker 4:

He start honestly. He sounds like he's enjoying foot, like I watched that interview with him in that hall of fame game. He looked happy, he looked like he was having fun and that's what I questioned with him.

Speaker 2:

You know what's going to happen, though. This is what's going to make you not want Rogers. He's going to get the hard knocks bump. Once all these hard knocks episodes come out, he's going to start getting. He's going to start going up.

Speaker 4:

I'm just saying like right here in the ninth, 10th, 11th round, I don't hate him.

Speaker 2:

Aaron Rogers are Kirk Cousins. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4:

If he's getting like bumped up big time, then, yeah, I don't, I won't like him there. It just it's like it's hard to pass. Like, oh, aaron Rod, okay, like.

Speaker 2:

I don't hate it, you know? Yeah, all right, so we had Daniel Jones, jared Goff. Who did you say Seth?

Speaker 3:

I'm going to go. So I'm not a big fan of any of the receivers in here, maybe Tyler Boyd's. Okay, I think I'm going to go Derek McKinnon here. I don't think it's the next or the guy I'd really want, but if I was had to choose in this round, I think I'd go Derek McKinnon. We also what all saw what he did in the AFC run last year the Chiefs dad. He had those crazy receiving games and just him running the ball. It was. I mean, it was basically it was the Derek McKinnon and Pacheco show in the AFC playoffs last year.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and probably either one of those Chiefs. Running backs this late in the draft isn't terrible for a zero RB guy Right.

Speaker 4:

I will say McKinnon's year last year is very like, comparable to like Jamal Williams. The guy had nine receiving touchdowns. Yeah, it's like hopefully the previous year he had one.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, hopefully the Chiefs, wide receivers can figure this out and change.

Speaker 4:

You know, become that receiving threat he had 500 yards receiving and nine touchdowns, only only 300 yards rushing on the only one rushing touchdown. So like I don't know, I like McKinnon. I think that late. Any attachment to the Chiefs offense is pretty solid.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I think that's just what I would choose.

Speaker 4:

I just like I do think the difference between Pacheco and McKinnon like an ADP might be a little exaggerated, but again it's kind of a Jamal Williams were like not sustainable? Yeah, I think so at least.

Speaker 2:

All right, now we are in round 12. We have Mingo Tank Bigsby, raheem Mostert, russell Wilson, rashid Rice, tyler Higby, ezekiel Elliott, tyler Algeer, roshan Johnson, adam Thiel and Devon Singletary, greg Duluch I think Dulchitch.

Speaker 4:

Dulch Dulch. Okay, dulch Dulch, you still said it wrong.

Speaker 2:

My favorite guy in this round is Tank Bigsby. I like it, jordan. I think he's really going to eat into ETN's play this year.

Speaker 4:

Oh did you see the Like. It's funny because Doug Beaterson said he wants ETN to be a 1500 running back. Yeah, yard, running back. Bigsby was like. I looked at some stat where, like in the preseason, bigsby was the only like rookie running back or backup rookie running back to play ahead and like before and after the starter. So like Bigsby played, travis, etn played and Bigsby came back in and played Like he was the only one who did that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and they said he's doing good in training camp.

Speaker 4:

and then uh, he had a crazy long rushing touchdown. Yeah, the beat the beat.

Speaker 2:

I think he's going to start climbing too. But the beat reporters are talking about uh, travis ETN, how he scored two times in the Red Zone offense drills uh, I think on Thursday, but they didn't tell you. I ended up coming out later. One was Wildcat and one was a reception. Like Bigsby was the guy that's getting all these goal line carries. So I really like Bigsby late in these drafts, for maybe Because I think ETN had like the second-most Red Zone carries last year and he didn't have that many touchdowns.

Speaker 4:

He wasn't that good in the Red Zone.

Speaker 2:

So he's kind of going to be replaced and maybe he's this year's Jamal Williams Jordan. Like I said, I feel like I've gone all running backs, like he's not gonna get 15, but the fact that ETN had all those Red Zone opportunities and scored how many rushing touchdowns like Pearson.

Speaker 4:

The only thing that Clearly, once around the ball down there, trevor Lawrence is very good to QB Sneak. Yeah. So, um, yeah, it could be something where ETN's like the, you know, between the 20s type of running back and maybe even like to the 10, and the goal line stuff makes me my kid.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 4:

Um, I think my favorite is Jonathan Mingo. I mean, quite honest, oh there's no, I don't. I'll let you say that I don't know what two sets is gonna take, but there's one more. I don't mind, but I like Mingo. I think he's he was listening. I think it's first year on the Depp chart. Um, I still, I know Bryce Young didn't look great this weekend, but I still think he's gonna be fine. Mingo's just a late round flyer on a guy who's very athletic, a lot of talent. Just kind of see you, I don't know, that's like one of your last receivers.

Speaker 2:

So we got Bigsby and Mingo. What do you got Seth man, ah. And those are both on the back end of this round, which is interesting yeah.

Speaker 3:

I think, uh, just because Atlanta is gonna be run heavy, I think you need to grab. If you, especially if you have Bijan, you need to get Tyler Algir. I think Algir is gonna be involved still. No, algir is gonna get a decent amount of runs regardless.

Speaker 4:

I know Bijan's the guy that, oh, and he's. Let's just throw on the Depp chart.

Speaker 3:

So I'm saying like but I see the highest, I think he's the highest paid running back, though, isn't he?

Speaker 2:

I remember too, yeah.

Speaker 4:

I know they're on a official Depp chart, but it is weird. Yeah, you know, play him.

Speaker 3:

Right, it is weird, bijan is gonna play and Algir If Bijan goes down we also saw how much Algir ran the ball last year yeah Right, like, if Bijan goes down, algir is in for a heavy workload and they might split that between him and some human whoever else is on that Depp chart. But I think if you, especially if you have Bijan, you need to grab Algir and I don't think it's a terrible guy to grab, especially if you're probably not gonna play him that much and if Bijan does go down, you're glad you have Algir on your team, regardless if you have Bijan or not.

Speaker 4:

The other guy I like in this round is Roshan Johnson.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's what I was gonna say.

Speaker 4:

He's kind of a mystery right. He's really good. He looked good yesterday. It just I don't know Like. I like Clio Herbert a lot too, and the two-round difference between the two is not that big. So I You're looking for late-round flyers, maybe guys who you never know, and I think Roshan Johnson is talented.

Speaker 2:

All right, next round. Here we got round 13. We have Jeff Wilson, kylan Murray, bryce Young, rondell Moore, sam LaPorta, jalen Warren, romeo Dobs, derek Carr, Gerald Everett, zay Jones, michael Gallup and I believe that's Chase. Brown. Chase Brown this round. I like Jalen Warren. I feel like I'm going running back. I feel like all I've done is running backs on this thing. Maybe that helps you with those zero RB. I'll use zero RB guys. I feel like there's some decent running back value. Warren is maybe going to be the pass-catching back there. He has some bursts. He's not a little guy, he's oh, he's short but he's 215 pounds. But I'm grabbing Warren in a lot of late rounds and leagues. Gerald Everett also is very intriguing to me here. I know you like what's the other tight ends? They're Parham Jordan, but maybe this is part of Dak Prescott, but or it was Kylan Moore. I feel like it was a little bit more Dak Prescott, but Dak's tight ends always seem to find the end zone and maybe that's a little bit Kylan Moore, maybe a little bit Dak. But Gerald Everett is kind of intriguing me late in drafts and maybe it is Parham, I don't know. But I think you might get some tight end value late from the Chargers just with that Kylan Moore OC involvement there. What about you guys? What do you guys think?

Speaker 4:

You can go Seth, I don't. It's a weird round, yeah.

Speaker 3:

I have a hard time in this round. I think if I had to say somebody I keep saying that I just need to pick I'm going to go Zay Jones here in the 13th. I think that's just the best option here. I think, out of looking at all these offenses and where these guys stack up in their offense, I think Zay Jones stacks the highest. Maybe Michael Gallup is close there too, but I think I'd go Zay.

Speaker 4:

Jones, I don't mind, romeo Dubs.

Speaker 3:

Romeo Dubs. Yeah, that's another one.

Speaker 4:

And I don't mind Laporta If you really want to wait on tight end. I don't think Laporta is horrible. I don't think Dub is horrible because Jordan, it just all depends on Jordan Love. Like if we knew that Jordan Love was going to be good. Like if I told you Jordan Love is throwing for 20 touchdowns or 25 touchdowns and 3,000 yards a share, you're probably saying Dub's a great pick in the 13th round, right?

Speaker 3:

Oh, 100% yeah, and I also think Watson would be drafted higher than yeah, so like is it all around possibility?

Speaker 4:

Jordan Love does that? No, I mean, even if Jordan Love were to throw for 15 touchdowns and 2,500 yards like we, just it's hard to know and I think there's a chance that Jordan Love may actually be good at football. I know Aaron Rodgers is talking him up big time right now in all his interviews. He may. He doesn't have to say it, they're not asking him about it. I'm like I know in that Hall of Fame game he talked about, you know, like they talked about mentoring quarterbacks and he said that you know I sat behind Brett Farr for a long time and he said I did. There was a great one who sat behind me in Green Bay now and I can't wait for Jay Love. He's gonna really show people how great Like he went out of his way to say I don't know Like Aaron Rodgers doesn't seem like someone who's just gonna praise people for praising them.

Speaker 3:

He's gonna praise them because he actually thinks they're good.

Speaker 4:

Yes, and so, like I think there's a chance, jordan Love may actually be good. So I don't Like I think Dubbs in the 13th round is You're looking for flyers anyways, right, yeah, so.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, Do you see what David Balkiri Is, that the left tackle at Green Bay. You see what he said Bakyari, Bakyari, yeah, he said. He said last year we had a quarterback who couldn't run. He said some choice language. He said we actually have someone who can run back there now. So he seems excited and I know him and Rodgers are kind of boys right, they're really close.

Speaker 4:

I don't think Aaron Rodgers takes offense.

Speaker 3:

No, I don't think so either. I think he was like poking out of a little bit. Yeah, I used to think he fought a lot of them.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, all right. So round 14, here's our last round. We got Taijai Spears, michael Mayer, nico Collins, jordan Love, gus Edwards, chuba Hubbard, jaylin Hyatt, dj Shark Van Jefferson, alec Pierce, kaseem Hill and Clyde Edwards-Hallaire. Yeah, I'll go first here. Go for it, I don't care. I don't want to do another running back, though. That's my problem. I feel like all I've done is running backs this thing. I don't think you know who I'm going to take.

Speaker 4:

You were, if you said running backs.

Speaker 2:

I think I've done too many running backs. But I'll just hey, if you're a ZORB guy and you just want to hear like, who am I running backs?

Speaker 4:

on Taijai Spears.

Speaker 2:

No, I'm going to say maybe not. You're going to say Gus Edwards. Huh, I was thinking Clyde.

Speaker 4:

I'm thinking Clyde Edwards-Hallaire, I know you hate, that Jordan, I know you guys hate, it.

Speaker 2:

He's still like. He's still in that rookie contract. You never know, with the Mahomes thing, what could happen there. Like he could be a pass catcher, he got phased out man I know he got phased out, but maybe-.

Speaker 4:

Why is he upside of CEH more than Edwards or Spears?

Speaker 2:

My other guy was Jaylin. Hyatt Is who I was thinking yeah, I like. Jaylin Hyatt, but like CEH, I'm just trying to confuse why I'm thinking last guy of the whole round, the last guy in the draft CEH, because it's a chiefs guy. Maybe there's something about the chiefs that could intrigue you. It wasn't that long ago. He was the first overall pick in leagues. You know dynasty leagues and stuff like that.

Speaker 4:

So even let's say so, he's let's just assume he's starting the deep chart behind McKinnon and Pacheco.

Speaker 2:

Okay, or you can take Gus Edwards, oh yeah, no, this is something like late into the season, like Pacheco or somebody gets hurt, they end up putting him back in.

Speaker 4:

Well, what's the difference between JK Dobbins gets hurt and-.

Speaker 2:

Gus Edwards. Yeah, Gus Edwards.

Speaker 4:

Or Derek Henry tears his ACL week one and you have the starting running back from the tight end all year.

Speaker 2:

You could have a guy that gets a couple whatever here and I know CEH isn't a great goal line back. I'm just saying a late round fire in the number one offense potentially could be the guy I don't take offense to the fact that you chose CEH over Edwards and Spears.

Speaker 3:

I think so too Like.

Speaker 4:

Spears, I think, has a clear, clear path to like he could be an RB team.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, he could, yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 4:

Because if I look at the tights and I'm not saying the tights I think the tights offense can be bad this year, but they don't think that and they have Derek Henry. Then it's Spears Ward, haskins, chestnut.

Speaker 2:

They drafted.

Speaker 4:

Spears in the third round this year. Joey Chestnut no, I'm just kidding. Like Jonathan Ward, like these guys are not, I saw on like I know they drafted Haskins last year but they obviously don't like him. I'm just saying, like Derek Henry gets hurt. Week one to week two, you have a story running back. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

I'm not a huge like yeah, any of these guys like absolutely Spears gets hurt or Henry gets hurt, spears could be the guy there. Edwards could be hurt. Or JK doesn't play, edwards could be the guy there. I'm telling you, clyde Edwards, alaire could potentially be getting some snaps week one with that starting offense Like I don't love him, but he is a guy that could be on one of the number one offenses in football, could be getting reps with the first team, you know, week one.

Speaker 3:

I just don't think he gets around McKinnon or Pacheco.

Speaker 2:

Pacheco scares me more than McKinnon. Probably there just cause McKinnon, I think, is clear cut receiving back. But Pacheco is kind of coming off an injury too right.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, I mean yes.

Speaker 2:

I think, like you say, the highest paid guy in that Clear cover receiving back, but Like they still use, I don't know. Oh no, I'm telling you, that's what I'm telling you I. It wouldn't surprise me if, like week two, ch gets like two touchdowns and then he doesn't get the ball.

Speaker 4:

I wouldn't get the rest of the season. Would it surprise you like CH didn't even make the chief roster this year?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that wouldn't surprise me either. But then I'm, but this is the last round. I'm probably going to cut one of these guys.

Speaker 3:

Anyways, right, Like I think there is a little bit of potential there with CH. If I'm, if I'm drafting this guy, I'm definitely not cutting him.

Speaker 2:

Who are you?

Speaker 3:

taking. If I draft DJ Chark, I'm not cutting him. I think he has the potential to be the number one receiver in Carolina over Mingo.

Speaker 2:

I've I've sailed on that ship way too many times, dj Chark, but I do like DJ.

Speaker 3:

Chark no, he had some sparks last year.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, he's really good yeah.

Speaker 3:

On the on the lions.

Speaker 4:

I think Van Jefferson is interesting too here.

Speaker 2:

Guy who has talent, has talented, had some good years Like I know Raider fans are pulling their hair out that we aren't saying Michael Mayor like, but I just I have trouble trusting rookie tight ends Like, even though I think it's a great spot for him there with Jimmy G.

Speaker 3:

It's true. Um, I'll stick with Chark here Also. Hi, I think someone worth talking about too. We don't know who's going to be the receiver in New York.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, yeah, I like one deals coming off an injury.

Speaker 3:

Uh, sterling shepherds coming off an injury. I think both of them ACLs. Hyatt is one of the only healthy ones. Who else is there Like? There's a, that's like a pretty talented room, but we don't know who's going to be the guy.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, that's the problem is just, there's a lot of guys there, yeah, so yeah, I went with Mr Relevant in the draft, seth went with DJ Chark.

Speaker 2:

What are you doing here, jordan? You going with?

Speaker 4:

I said like four guys Spears or Jefferson, I don't know Kind of like Jefferson, go Van Jefferson. Okay.

Speaker 2:

Well, that kind of does our 14 round draft, player by player, player by round. Hopefully this was a good little learning, uh, little learning experience for you, Remember, don't be rude. Share the dudes really helps us out. I had a diva that I talked about earlier. You know, I don't even remember what it was at the moment. But, Seth, what are you? What do you? Do you guys have any? Are you guys good? Nothing comes to mind right now Feels my diva. Yeah, Guys who?

Speaker 3:

get guys who I don't know if they're actually sick or not. Yeah, like, send me a picture If you have a fever, send me a picture of the fever, like straight out of your mouth, and a doctor's note. Yeah, no, send this, send us a doctor's note. Or like, take, take a video of you, you know, pulling out the, the thermometer, out of your mouth and showing the showing the temperature.

Speaker 4:

I actually kind of like more of like a question, like am I a diva or not? Okay, that's fine.

Speaker 3:

I give a lot of those right.

Speaker 4:

Uh like, and I did this last night, so like I it very well, I could have been a diva. But are people who pay with quarters divas?

Speaker 2:

No, I'm going to say no, even though I would say yes If I was the guy receiving the money, like if this was a fantasy football draft. Yes, you are a diva, no so.

Speaker 4:

I left my wallet at home and some guys are like I was someone's house and like let's go to taco truck. I didn't have my wallet, so, but I was in my car and I was like I had like six bucks and quarters, so like scroungers and quarters and pay with quarters of the taco truck. I haven't done that since high school, I don't think pay with quarters. But um yeah it works money but like are you, are people who pay with quarters, like divas, like I don't know, I think it depends.

Speaker 2:

Like if you pay with quarters every single time you go to the taco truck, maybe you're a diva, but, like you know, once or twice a year probably not that bad. I hate caring change. I know I've said cash is king, but it's like who really wants you know that jingling in their pocket all the time of like candy in your pocket and sauce packets, but like pennies are just like pennies. drive me nuts, though. We should discontinue pennies in this country. It's true they cause more money to make than they are worth. It's very ridiculous.

Speaker 4:

No, I just curious. So I think there's a lot of people who out there would say people who pay quarters is the bottom, anything less than a quarter, I would say maybe like dimes and nickels for the last dollar Maybe.

Speaker 3:

So yeah, For the last dollar.

Speaker 2:

It's on a big don't don't you feel great, though, and it's like you pay somebody with change and you're like I got that out of the way, I don't have to get any change back. Like I like paying with, like yeah, with exact change. I'll remember the exact change You're like yeah, you feel good when you do the exact change. Yeah, so alright, I think that kind of does it. If there's anything else you guys want to say we got our dudes and duds show coming out next week. Football season's almost here. We got two weeks to college football. You said so can't wait for that. Maybe Phil will be back, maybe he'll be won't be sick in a week. So who knows? Who knows?

Speaker 4:

There's no stuff is still sick. In a week that I'll feel bad for making a lot of them being sick.

Speaker 2:

That's true. That's true. He might just do it for our sympathy, though, just like pull a last minute you know sick card. You never know what that guy. But hey guys, thanks for tuning in. Remember, don't be rude, share the dudes and, as always, take care.

Speaker 1:

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