2023 Fantasy Football Mock Draft | 12-Team HPPR + Chocolate snobs
We're breaking down everything from draft strategies to player picks. We're talking the impact of injuries on Average Draft Position (ADP), the pros and cons of drafting a running back in the first round, and the potential of drafting rookie tight ends. We're giving the lowdown on balancing the number of receivers with running backs and how to use a fifth-round pick as trade bait.
Curious about the secrets behind a successful mock draft? We've got you covered. Discover why it's essential to set one up (even at the last minute) and the potential fallout if you don't. We're also diving into the strategies that computer teams utilize when autodrafting. But it's not all serious strategy talk. We're keeping things light-hearted as well with entertaining discussions about the Barstool guys downplaying the national anthem, the curious trend of people not singing well but still performing the national anthem, and the diva of the week.
Just when you thought we were done, we're rounding things off with our favorite and least favorite draft picks. We're sharing our thoughts on the ADP of Mike Evans and Dalvin Cook, the competition in Cleveland, and the defensive strategies of Stefan Gilmore. We're also addressing the issue of people who don't know how to draft in best ball and how it can mess up your strategy. So, sharpen those pencils, get your draft notes ready, and join us as we tackle the world of fantasy football. You won't want to miss it!
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Speaker 2:This is the fantasy football dudes podcast.
Speaker 3:What is up, my dudes? This is Trent with the fantasy football dudes podcast. How about that, adreed? Wish we could have played the other three.
Speaker 1:We don't believe in football.
Speaker 3:To be fair. Phil I spilled bubbly To be fair, I spilled bubbly all over. You know this high tech equipment over here, and Phil just has not been the same since.
Speaker 1:He's fumbling his bubbly around, acting like trying to play off, like nothing's going on, but obviously it is.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it was. And then Phil can't get his tongue out of the way of his teeth.
Speaker 5:Trent, you almost should have left all the other reads out and just let it go.
Speaker 1:The problem is even though, if I'm not perfect, I'm pretty dang close, even when I'm struggling.
Speaker 5:I don't know if you were even close to perfect in those last ones.
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Speaker 2:I think we just oh, I'm gonna blame this.
Speaker 3:You're still struggling with the words right now You're still starstruck that sleep, or even when to sponsor us? Yeah.
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Speaker 3:Please make my day.
Speaker 1:This one makes it seems like it was. You know it's typed, but it feels like the guy probably still writes with crayons. Trent, is there a?
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Speaker 1:It is football season.
Speaker 4:It is football season. Jordan had a great weekend with the whole thing. Dude, yeah, hold on, hold on hold on.
Speaker 1:I sent a group chat, I sent a group message after we recorded on Sunday, okay, and I was like guys, how did we miss this? Football is back. There's a game happening on Thursday. We all knew this was happening. Jordan responds not a big deal, it's not actually football, that's not what I said.
Speaker 5:It's close to it. I said not a big deal, we missed it.
Speaker 4:There's a whole, everyone there's a whole bunch of games of following week.
Speaker 1:The other week is the real and then I realized this is not real football. And then I realized that no, no, no, no. On Saturday we get a text it's Thursday, but Thursday we get a text with a screen grab and it says football is back, baby.
Speaker 5:Or something like that.
Speaker 1:It's like what the?
Speaker 5:Hey, then I realized that there's a lot of money to be won on the little showdown slate for the Hall of Fame game, so I unfortunately watched that whole game.
Speaker 3:You watched?
Speaker 1:the whole game. Did you meet your feltin'? Look I watched the whole game.
Speaker 5:Well, I knew I had a good team. Like I knew I had some good teams going and so I was like I kind of got to watch this, you know.
Speaker 4:It was kind of fun to watch football again.
Speaker 5:Yeah, well, this is where it comes in handy, having the two TVs. I'm not gonna lie, because I can have that on one TV and then have like whatever I want to watch on another TV. So I'm gonna take extreme attention to the-.
Speaker 3:How was DeMarcus Weir's national anthem?
Speaker 5:I did not turn on in time for that, Okay.
Speaker 3:I haven't seen it. I just heard that like he was getting a lot of heat on Twitter but it's a big deal to sing the national anthem Like I'll give him props just for doing it. I probably should have heard it by now, but I can't imagine it was great.
Speaker 1:No, I think here's the thing National anthem I think it was the first thing they turned on the broadcasting.
Speaker 5:They went to the broadcasting and was singing the national anthem like yeah, it's one of the most important parts of the game.
Speaker 1:to be quite honest with you, I love the national anthem. But the and you know I'm gonna throw some shadier the guys at Barstool have kind of like downplayed it a little bit. They have guys who do not sing well, who will sing it? Have you seen that trend I have. They basically like, basically whoever is there, whether they are a good singer or not, they basically give them the lyrics and then they start singing the national anthem. That's so messed up.
Speaker 4:It's really it's kind of funny though.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So I don't know, like was DeMarcus Weir been taking like singing lessons, Like what's?
Speaker 4:the deal here, I think he just like I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 1:He just decided Hall of Fame Probably that's the problem when you get into the Hall of Fame, you think you can do anything, you know, and some things are not left to be done. You know what I'm saying? Singing the national anthem seems like it probably was one of the things he should have done.
Speaker 3:I think the Philippines is the only country. There might be others, but you get fined if you sing the national anthem. Bad.
Speaker 1:We should that should happen here.
Speaker 5:We, I think that's actually a thing, yeah.
Speaker 1:That's funny, that's dumb. I would be fine. I didn't see it. Demetric Felton looked decent though, didn't he the?
Speaker 5:problem is Trent. Everyone in the United States thinks they're a good singer. It's true. So you got everyone you know. Mommy and Daddy are telling you you're a good singer. So you think you're a good singer, yeah.
Speaker 1:Look how.
Speaker 3:American Idol was back in the day. I miss the old fashioned American.
Speaker 5:Idol with Simon, and Simon Simon just told people you are horrible.
Speaker 3:Towards the end. It wasn't that good, but yeah, like early 2000s American Idol with Like 2010,. Nine, 10, 11, like yeah, like grew better than all those times he would start to tell them like your mom's been lying to you your whole life.
Speaker 5:You're horrible yeah.
Speaker 1:Some people in this room probably need a dose of that reality. To be quite honest to you, Speaking about yourself.
Speaker 5:What's the next one?
Speaker 1:Oh, hey, that side of the room over there Before I squashed this.
Speaker 3:I was in Texas last week. I brought home one of her spicy ketchup sauce that you guys can all try. I snuck it back through TSA. You're not supposed to bring liquids.
Speaker 1:He had it in his basketball shirt Trent.
Speaker 3:you can bring liquids if they're like that size, I wasn't gonna chance it until I had it Seth.
Speaker 4:So we're actually in my-. Do you want to try it or not? It's almost like this was on my sauce, Trent. It's almost like they put that in his manscaped underwear.
Speaker 3:Snuck it on the plate. Does anyone want to try it before it Hold on, hold on.
Speaker 5:It's almost like Trent didn't realize it had something where they can see everything in your bag, trent, I'm worried it's gonna carry the flavor of whatever was in your pocket.
Speaker 1:You pulled that out of your pocket right now.
Speaker 3:I know, because I brought it out here.
Speaker 1:It's in my fruit.
Speaker 5:Why do you have it on the table? Because, I forgot.
Speaker 1:There's condensate here on the top of that thing we are doing a mock draft today, guys, on sleepers.
Speaker 3:So stay tuned for that. But does anyone want to?
Speaker 1:try my sauce If you're not watching it on YouTube. Trent basically pulled out a capsule One of the ones that you get from McDonald's like a barbecue sauce out of his pocket.
Speaker 3:That's been there for who knows how long it was in my fridge. That's my wife.
Speaker 1:I had one of my furniture in it. It's not cold though. It's not cold, do you-? Oh, I?
Speaker 3:always forget sweet and sour sauce is ice cold every time you get it Trent?
Speaker 1:no, no, you had it in your fridge, you pulled it out of your pants.
Speaker 5:The point is that it's been in your pants for too long it was not going to hold, Guys.
Speaker 3:How come no one wants to try this you?
Speaker 1:will never try this, ever again, because it's been in your pants. That's what I had it before. I was trying.
Speaker 3:No one wants to try it. You guys are a bunch of girls.
Speaker 1:No one likes the sauce you pull out of your pants man, I'm going to be honest with you. That's just you pulled that. You pulled that sauce out of your pocket. That's really weird.
Speaker 3:I actually thought about you guys never doing that again. That was solely just kindness of my heart.
Speaker 2:No, you thought about yourself.
Speaker 1:Let's build on this, no.
Speaker 3:I brought two of them One for me, the one to share with the next.
Speaker 1:I would have loved nothing more if you would have forgot about it and it would have just been spilling out all over this couch.
Speaker 4:Trent literally said before I sit on it yeah.
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Speaker 1:We did a draft. We did a draft together, we had a dynasty draft.
Speaker 4:I mean try and draft today.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, you and Jordan have another one coming up.
Speaker 5:Couple weeks from tomorrow or two weeks from tomorrow, I think, so I need to make the invitation still. Yeah, I got two drafts that week, so what is-?
Speaker 1:Any WWE entries.
Speaker 5:I don't know yet. I was actually with the commissioner that leaked this weekend, so we didn't talk about exactly. We talked about when the draft was gonna be. But Okay, I know that got brought up in the group text. Wwe again.
Speaker 1:That's always a good one.
Speaker 5:Maybe I'll be a little bit more. I had a research like what WWE guy I want?
Speaker 1:Can you, are you comfortable sharing the story about the last place finish that you saw this weekend?
Speaker 5:Yeah, so I was at a called a place of establishment in Orange County and a guy walked in with a wedding dress on and over the loudspeaker they announced that it was a last place pun. I don't think the guy who was saying the it was the guy who works there. I don't think he quite understood what it was, but, yeah, I knew. I was like this guy either lost a bet or something and they announced with a loudspeaker that that he you know, he got lost place, lost place punishment.
Speaker 1:So yeah, that's crazy. And how long did he stay there, Did he just was he there and left, or what happened?
Speaker 5:He was there the whole time. I was there Buying it, just like Cool guy or no, I didn't, I should have talked to him.
Speaker 1:You should have told him about our pod. I honestly should have talked to him. Perfect timing to. Why didn't you take a photo with him? Hey man, you don't want to wear a wedding dress ever again.
Speaker 5:Listen to our pod, I know like I really should have witten up and talked to him but we were on separate sides of the place, so there's a lot of people in there, so I just didn't quite get to it.
Speaker 1:I'm not, I'm not gonna say it.
Speaker 3:Seth, you want to do your diva the week. I think you have a good diva at it. Before we get into this mock draft, you wanted to say something about our draft today. Oh man.
Speaker 4:Okay, listen, if we have a draft, I know we just the draft we decided was kind of last minute to do it today because we wanted most people we can to get there. So when people like up and decide to like go to the coast this weekend and enjoy time with the family when they know we are probably gonna draft this weekend, there's my first diva. The second one you're home and you decide to go spend time with your in-laws instead of going to a draft with all your cousins.
Speaker 3:And tell us 10 minutes before the draft. Hey guys having lunch with my in-laws draft without me, I guess I'll just auto draft this year.
Speaker 4:I'm like what in the world? At least the guy at the coast drafted, at least the guy at the coast on the beach in the sand drafted with his mom yes, speedo hand shakes.
Speaker 1:We pray not, Pray not. But probably the beach prays not, no, no, no, no but here's the thing, guys we do our drafts on sleep.
Speaker 3:We're the best place to your fans to go drafts. Even if you can't make the draft, you can pull out your phone and draft your team Dude why? He had the second overall pick and just auto draft the whole way. Why didn't he pull it out?
Speaker 5:his phone at lunch.
Speaker 3:That is a great question. We don't know. It's your in-laws, you're already married yeah.
Speaker 5:No, no, no, I can't like they're gonna say, hey, you guys aren't gonna be married. And like what do you like you? Never, know, you really never know.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I guess that's me being naive, I'm just kidding he also didn't like our last place punishment and he said I will not do that, so we and I said quit, yeah, so here's our options. We gave last place, starting next year, four options.
Speaker 5:Well, this year. Starting this season? Yeah, starting this year, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:You got four options. You can A shave your head. B pay each member in the league $100. There's 12 of us, okay, so it'd be 11. What was the third Hot Chip Challenge?
Speaker 4:Fourth quit, so we might have some quitters here, and the thing about quitting is if that spot will get filled and it probably won't get back in.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so it's just A but A. He started out, you know auto-drafting and I guess that's just that's a bad, that's a whole move, the war.
Speaker 5:Yeah, it's almost, it's like the sad part is.
Speaker 4:I think the auto-draft still did better than what he would've-.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and that's why we're mad, honestly. You know auto-drafting better.
Speaker 4:His team's actually pretty good and it makes me mad.
Speaker 5:The double down of hey guys, I'm going to lunch with my in-laws and then two, I'm not even going to pull out my phone and-.
Speaker 3:He pulled out his phone in the 10th round on his pick and backed out. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 5:And let it go back to auto-draft. You let his auto-draft pick for you.
Speaker 3:This is our family draft, so it's very competitive.
Speaker 4:It's a free league, but it's just like it's free, but it's really competitive, it's for the pride.
Speaker 3:Like we present the trophy at Christmas. A guy was in his wedding photos with his presents.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it was a wedding photos this is my, I'm playing with my cousin-in-laws and my brother-in-laws and I won last year, so I take a ton of pride. Seth won a lot of leagues last year Not sharing the same last name as these guys and taking home the trophy.
Speaker 5:I will say that, like, maybe the pride doesn't mean as much to those guys.
Speaker 4:That's what I'm saying I want them to quit we can fill those spots easy.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's not hard. So let's get into this mock draft guys. We'll start this up here. We got it all set up already. It's gonna be a 12 team, half point. We're going to 11 rounds, no defense, no kickers. But before we get into this draft, it seems a little funny. But you know, the great way to do mock drafts, guys, is to go over to Underdog. Underdog is the very best place to do DFS and all kinds of other stuff. All you do is you draft a team, set it and forget it. No saying lineups. Great place to sharpen your fantasy sword. I know Phil loves it when I say that. So best ball drafts as little as $3. Go to Underdog, tell them the dudes send you promo code, dudes, and they will match you up to $100. They will double your money up to $100. So go ahead, enter dudes and yeah, underdog, it's a lot of fun, guys. Go check it out. So let's get into this mock draft here. See, and Jordan, you're going first.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I got number one.
Speaker 3:We got the computer going at two Seth, going at three, computer computer me.
Speaker 1:Phil, you're going at 10.
Speaker 3:I'm at 10. And yeah, so we got no kickers, no defenses, we're just doing 11 rounds here One, three, six, 10.
Speaker 1:So this isn't a real mock, but that's okay. Are we starting yet? Trent, we have not started yet.
Speaker 3:Are you gonna put it on the screen? Yeah, I'll put it on the screen up there. So yeah, we can start it off here.
Speaker 5:Jordan, you love how I showed you how to do this Google Cast. It's amazing.
Speaker 3:yeah, welcome to the future. So two minutes per pick. Hopefully it doesn't take that long.
Speaker 1:Phil, I wish you'd have gone a little bit harder at him, Jordan, when he was like guys, I got this specific type of TV and then he definitely didn't get that type of TV and it was on the purchasing it was on the box. The type of TV he got.
Speaker 5:We didn't give him a hard note. You know what go at some point like I just expect that at Trent so it's not not noteworthy anymore. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Hey, I got a road to TV hey.
Speaker 3:Jordan, I'm glad your TV, your Wi-Fi is working today, so speaking of technology. What are you talking about Our draft? Last week your Wi-Fi wasn't working. Yeah, I need to update my computer. I should update it oh yeah, tried to blame it on my Wi-Fi.
Speaker 1:What do you think about this as an?
Speaker 3:opening line.
Speaker 5:Honestly, I love the clock at one. Honestly, my computer got dropped and I think it messed it up.
Speaker 1:I think this is an easy pick, so we can kind of keep talking yeah, I'm thinking JJ this is an opening line Like what do you? Ok Can we mute that up.
Speaker 3:You don't like the sound effects back there.
Speaker 5:Ok, so interesting.
Speaker 4:The ADP. So I just noticed this today, when the computer autodrafts for you it doesn't necessarily go by ADP. So Jamar Chase going number two overall.
Speaker 5:Trent, did you? I think you can change that in the settings Did you?
Speaker 2:do that on the mock, like where the computer doesn't always.
Speaker 3:I haven't.
Speaker 4:I guess maybe some certain teams maybe draft by different strategies, certain computer teams, I don't know if it's a thing.
Speaker 1:So with Cooper Cup, what was it Cooper Cup he had? What was it a Keely's deal?
Speaker 3:OK, his computer's the one going off.
Speaker 5:I took JJ, team two took Jamar Chase, set to Christian McCaffrey, then went Tyree, kill Cooper Cup and now Trent's on the clock. What was up with Cooper Cup? Was it a knee?
Speaker 1:or a calf or a keely's, it's a muscle.
Speaker 5:It's a muscle, so it's a hamstring growing and it hasn't changed his ADP really.
Speaker 1:No, because they said he's going to be back hopefully.
Speaker 3:I took Bijan, then it went Austin.
Speaker 5:Ecuador at 7. The Bijan over at you love Bijan huh.
Speaker 3:It's A Quambarco at 8, travis, kelsey, travis.
Speaker 5:Kelsey went. Really I would have took Kelsey. I almost took Kelsey there, yeah.
Speaker 1:I thought I was going to have the opportunity to take it when we did it wasn't he 11 and 12 on our last draft, didn't he go?
Speaker 3:11 and 12?. Kelsey's moving up more than ever, I feel like this year. No, he's down compared to what I've seen him before. Well, yeah, no, this is the latest I've seen him on this mock.
Speaker 1:Oh, we saw him at 11 and 12.
Speaker 3:Earlier, no, I know, but in the last month and a half you've seen him, Joe?
Speaker 5:If you can get like Trent, if you could got Kelsey at 6, like it's almost a lock to what you want. Mahomes on the way back.
Speaker 3:Every underdog draft I've done when. I get, Kelsey Mahomes does not make it back.
Speaker 1:Is this a full-point pick? I think you almost have to try it, you're alluding to my diva. Soon I'm going to get to that I'm going to go with my divas. I'm going to go with digs.
Speaker 3:If Mahomes is here, Jordan, I'll be really mad.
Speaker 1:I don't think he will be, but I am actually going to go with Mahomes right here.
Speaker 5:Exhibit A. Exhibit A of my diva. Future and more foreshadowing on my diva.
Speaker 3:I know exactly what you're saying I know exactly no.
Speaker 5:And it honestly doesn't. Well, we'll get there. We'll get there when I get back. No, but I think, hey, let's recap this real quick. Yeah, phil took Steph Diggs at 110. Then went Johnathan Taylor, nick Chubb, vonte, then Devonte, aj Brown. Devonte Devonte over AJ Brown is weird. Yeah, that's really weird.
Speaker 2:And Phil took Patrick.
Speaker 5:Mahomes, and now we are at St Brown, cdlam, derek, henry and.
Speaker 1:Trinidad.
Speaker 5:I hate Team 7, like Austin Eckler, Derek Kennedy together I took Garrett Wilson at 2.7. Aaron Rodgers loves Garrett Wilson. You see how he was talking about him.
Speaker 3:Hey, while we're here, what are you thinking about, burrow, did you see? What Jamar Chase said, oh yeah, he said, don't play until week five.
Speaker 5:I don't think that will happen, but there's a potential that it could I've had a calf injury. Please do not Because you and Joe Burrow are the same type of athlete Josh Jacobs, jaylen Waddell and Sethson the Clock here.
Speaker 4:Yeah, so it's telling me to draft Josh Allen here and then it kind of goes more running backs. The thing is, I feel like receivers are sort of deep this year, but I'm a little nervous. I mean, I guess someone could come back to me. Man, I don't know.
Speaker 5:I would 100% drafts for a receiver here.
Speaker 4:Seth? Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 1:Eluding back to his diva. Yeah, elude, yeah, I'm going to go Devonta.
Speaker 4:Smith here because I trust the offense more in Philadelphia than I do in New Orleans.
Speaker 1:All right, meti. What are you? Devonta Smith? He went to the Devonta and then Josh Allen.
Speaker 3:Jordan at the turn.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I got two here to make, so I'm going to get a running back here. I just got to decide who I want exactly, but I also want to grab a receiver here too.
Speaker 4:I think Tony Pollard's the answer here.
Speaker 5:I'm not drafting a running. Oh yeah, I got you.
Speaker 1:I thought you said you wanted to go ahead, I do.
Speaker 5:But man Tony Pollard or Mondre Najee is who I'm kind of looking at right now. For some reason Najee's not as high. I think you're right. The Pollard thing is probably right, but there is rumors of Zeke getting re-signed in Dallas. There's also rumors of Zeke everywhere. The Patriots are probably going to sign someone and that scares me a little bit.
Speaker 3:Because Zeke. Here's what Zeke has. He's a great pass Barker and he's good for two yards, and so he's going to just poach someone's touchdowns.
Speaker 5:Which I don't like for Mondre. I think Najee might have the safest role here. I think it might be able to early for ETN.
Speaker 4:I think you just go, pollard, I'm going to go.
Speaker 5:Pollard. I'm thinking about this too much for just a mock draft. I'm going to go Pollard and then receiver. You guys have I'm.
Speaker 4:I think you go Alavay here or Higgins. I mean, dk is fun, but the thing is I think Smith and Jigba is going to eat into both Lockett and Metcalfe like more than ever.
Speaker 5:Honestly, this is what I'm looking at. I Alavay Higgins, calvin Ridley.
Speaker 4:Calvin Ridley is not a bad.
Speaker 5:Which what we talked about. I'm going to take Ridley here.
Speaker 4:I think it's a good pick, jordan, I could easily have like.
Speaker 5:If Calvin Ridley Jaguar's offense is as good as I think it's going to be and everyone is saying good things about Calvin Ridley right now I could have two top six receivers in the I just took Calvin Ridley in my draft today.
Speaker 3:I had to take him in the third round. It was three, four, so very similar. But I just want to see how long you think you can wait till you can get more. Well, here's my thing.
Speaker 5:Yeah, do I think Trevor Lawrence is better at Derek Hart? Yes, with Alavay, alavay and Ridley, like that's kind of my decision and I think Ridley's better than Alavay. Like I really think Ridley might be better or very comparable in a better offense.
Speaker 1:So, jordan, do you stay away from Higgins, or really anyone? You stay away from Higgins because Burrow might be out five games and really, if there's a backup, jamar Chase is going to like they're going to. He's going to be targeting Chase more, right.
Speaker 5:I'm not going to draft based on Joe Burrow being hurt, like possibly like the the maybe it's two, maybe it's week one, like I don't know he's going to play my two guys I wanted right there got sniped.
Speaker 3:I was going to take Ridley or Alavay right there, so Seth took Alavay.
Speaker 5:Team four took Hertz. I don't know what team four I know it's computer, but anyways. Team five took Ramon Dre and then Trent. You're on the clock. What are you thinking, here I'm thinking I'm going to go nausea. Honestly, Wide receivers You're like drafting like totally different than I think I would draft in this situation.
Speaker 3:But I see receivers here, but I don't know if I want to take them this early.
Speaker 4:I think you take, I think I would take T Higgins.
Speaker 5:I'm honestly shocked that you didn't take your boy Trent.
Speaker 3:Drake London.
Speaker 5:No, Mark Andrews.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you love the Ravens, you love.
Speaker 5:Lamar Jackson, I know. So Trent's technology up what six. Mark Andrews went seven, Jameer Gibbs went eight. That's probably Jameer. Yeah, that seems about nausea. Jameer Gibbs is the right spot for them.
Speaker 4:Honestly, I, like me and Trent, ranked Gibbs pretty high. I'm nervous about what they're good saying they're going to have like a two-headed monster attack again.
Speaker 5:I think Gibbs is going to be in the field almost 100% for DK.
Speaker 1:Burrow ETN.
Speaker 5:Yeah, so Phillip with DK, then Joe Burrow went, then Travis ETN wow, travis ETN. Kenneth Walker there's some weird noise coming out of Seattle with their running backs.
Speaker 1:They could easily snag a guy like Zeke yeah or Dalvin or wherever.
Speaker 5:Keenan Allen 11, phil, you're on the clock right now he's still not practicing.
Speaker 3:Here's the other thing, though, like I think Montgomery will have a role there, a red zone role, like I just don't see Campbell going away from that.
Speaker 4:No, they said he's going to play. They said he's going to play.
Speaker 3:And they paid. You know, they got him pre-agency like.
Speaker 5:Trent, we should have said this before, but oh, I can look at the roster. Right here we are three two wide receivers and a flex. Two running backs. Wide receivers, flex. Okay.
Speaker 3:Everyone's looking at my picks because my screen's mirrored to the TV.
Speaker 4:Do you? Even have anything saved, Trent.
Speaker 3:I don't know. No, I'm just saying I can't do a sneaky pick because you guys are up there watching me cook it.
Speaker 1:I'm going down pretty far.
Speaker 4:You need a running back, phil, so I don't know what you're even digging for Well, I don't, no, I'm gonna. I think I can just wait, at this point, what are you digging?
Speaker 5:for Phil.
Speaker 4:You need a running back son.
Speaker 5:I don't mind him waiting.
Speaker 1:No, that's the thing. With what's there, I feel like I'm.
Speaker 3:You have 38 seconds. I'm gonna go I don't even like this.
Speaker 1:Actually, I wanted to go with. To be quite honest with you, I really wanted to go with.
Speaker 5:Drake London. I think you should have went Drake.
Speaker 1:London. I wanted to go Drake London and I didn't. I got scared, got nervous.
Speaker 3:I feel like I'm getting a four feet.
Speaker 4:That's good, that can also happen.
Speaker 5:I feel like I'm getting Drake London there I'm getting Drake London right here. So we got a little bit of run on quarterbacks here. Fields went, so it's Phil took Debo, then Fields went and Lamar went, then Amari Cooper, so we're transing the clock here.
Speaker 3:I'm going to take Herbert Herbert, followed by Aaron Jones, joe Mixon. I wanted to take Lawrence, but I think you're going to take him here. Jordan, yeah, thought about sniping him off you to see what you could do.
Speaker 5:I was thinking. Part of me almost doesn't want to take him, just to see where he ends up going, but I don't know. How do you guys feel about the running backs?
Speaker 4:in Baltimore? I don't know, because JK.
Speaker 3:Dobbins. They're saying he's messed up too. Who's the insane?
Speaker 4:I want to pick him but I just who's the new?
Speaker 3:running back. Who's the new running back there? That kind of leaked that I'm going to be getting a lot of Gus Edwards Like I've been doing best while I've been taking Gus Edwards Really yeah.
Speaker 4:Because who's?
Speaker 3:the backup running back. They just got. That's what I'm. Is it an old Saints guy?
Speaker 1:or something JK Dobbins, gus Edwards, justice Hill, melvin Gordon, melvin Gordon was the guy that said JK Dobbins isn't practicing no that guy's not.
Speaker 5:I don't think he makes it through training camp. Yeah, maybe not.
Speaker 3:Oh, I can do something interesting here, so we had Aaron Jones, joe Mixon, miles Sanders from Seth, terry McLaurin at 411.
Speaker 4:Jordan's got two picks on the turn.
Speaker 5:I'm not going to take Lawrence here, trent. I kind of just want to see where he ends up going. If you were to come back to me, then I would take him, but a lot of teams already have quarterbacks, so I'm just going to wait there.
Speaker 4:Everyone has quarterbacks, except for me. Team five, Actually more teams than I thought.
Speaker 5:One, two, three, four, five. I am going to think I kind of want to just do Hawkinson here and maybe just try to grab Kirk Cousins late. That's kind of like a best ball.
Speaker 3:That's not bad.
Speaker 4:In our family draft someone drafted Russell Wilson over Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 3:You're not helping our family draft. Well, I'm just saying I was shocked.
Speaker 1:I said are you going?
Speaker 4:to pick Kirk Cousins or are you going to pick? He picked Russell Wilson. I'm like what are you doing? First-year player.
Speaker 3:I'm going Drake London. A listener of the pod that he's bashing. Isn't that terrible.
Speaker 4:No, no, you need to be bashing. You have a good Chad pick.
Speaker 5:You're supposed to hold people accountable. That's true, that's a bad pick, okay, jordan took Drake London and then I'm going to take. I haven't been taking tight ends this early, but I'm going to go Hawkinson here. I want to try this.
Speaker 3:Followed by Dobbins.
Speaker 5:Now.
Speaker 3:Seth is back on the clock, dobby.
Speaker 5:I'll take Lawrence if he gets back to me, but I think my plan is to take Kirk Cousins at some point. Kurt, yeah, and just go. Old school man, I used to draft. I just wait and get a quarterback with the upside. That I think, and I think he has upside.
Speaker 3:What's too early to get Alvin Kamara? Can you start getting him now? We're in the fifth round.
Speaker 5:I almost considered him. I just Three weeks. I just wanted to remind that I want to kind of hold to and I just think, like Drake London, TJ Hawkinson, a little better but best player available type of deal.
Speaker 3:And playing earlier right.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I also don't like running back this year. So you got Conjury Miller behind him and you have there's someone else in New Orleans too Jamal Williams, jamal Williams. So I Running back is a mess.
Speaker 3:It's a mess. This year it's going to only get messier. That's why I want.
Speaker 5:Bijon, I really like just grabbing one in the second round and then just not worrying about another one for a long time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think that's what I should do to Jordan.
Speaker 5:But I think you put it grabbed.
Speaker 1:I probably, maybe should have gone with someone in the third.
Speaker 5:You should took ETN in the third.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I don't like my spot right here, but, phil, you're going to have so much more fun on Sundays watching DK Metcalf screaming at your TV.
Speaker 3:as a Seahawks fan, it's true. Yeah, just Just the.
Speaker 2:Let's pause and we can recap the first five rounds at the end of this round.
Speaker 4:Man, I really don't like my spot here at all 25.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you put, you chose your spots.
Speaker 2:I know, so we can't get that mad at you.
Speaker 3:I'm going to go to George Kittles. Actually, we can get mad at you, George Kittles. Followed by Kamara DeAndre Hopkins. I'm on the clock. Here we're with DJ Moore. That's just the guy I grab every year. Yeah, I don't, DJ Moore. Followed by Alexander Madison.
Speaker 5:Oh Madison, I think Madison's starting. I'm starting to shoot up Damian Pierce. I don't that guy's. I'm not touching that guy with a 10-foot ball this year.
Speaker 1:I'm going to go with this guy. I'm going with Christian Watson. I, like Seth said, I need a running back. You want to pause?
Speaker 3:it. Yeah, I pause the draft. No.
Speaker 1:The running back situation is not. I think, you're over like yes.
Speaker 5:I don't mind him taking camp acres there or Madison If Madison would have been there or acres.
Speaker 1:But like To me it's just kind of a cluster. Yeah, I don't. There's nothing that's really appealing there. I could have got one in the third. Here is the issue. I'm going to go, phil. I'm going to go Phil.
Speaker 5:Here is the issue. And he says point, you can only play three wide receivers in this league. So now you have a fifth round pick that you cannot play. You one of your four receivers that you drafted in the top five rounds you can't use on a weekly basis Trade bait.
Speaker 3:Trade bait. I didn't think of that, guys.
Speaker 5:Which is something that I think people don't think about always too late.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, you're right, you're right.
Speaker 5:I don't like any of these running backs, I think you should have probably got.
Speaker 1:I should have probably got. I should have, yeah, you should have grabbed ETN the third round is what you should have done. It's exactly it. No, I don't disagree. That's going to haunt you for the rest of the night. So can we just? This is you know what? This is a mock draft, Phil has a big draft tomorrow night.
Speaker 3:He's getting ready for it.
Speaker 5:I'm getting all the so I have through five rounds. I have Justin Jefferson, so walkthrough. Tony Pollard. Calvin Ridley Drake, london. Tj Hawkinson. I like where I'm at, I'm probably going to try to grab something. Yeah, I'm going to grab on the turn Seth. You have what you want to talk about.
Speaker 4:Your team real quick Sure, I have McCaffrey, devonta Smith, chris Olavi, miles Sanders and George Kittle.
Speaker 5:I would assume you're going to take some receivers here quite a bit up, yeah.
Speaker 4:I'm going to take receivers, probably on both picks. Okay, unless, like a quarterback, comes to me in a good time, trent.
Speaker 3:I got Bijan Robinson, garrett Wilson, najee Harris, justin Herbert, dj Moore. I'm going to go pretty wide receiver heavy here. I don't I might take some dart throws at running backs layarounds. Fun fact about Najee Harris I was getting my haircut this week. Barber's talking to me about NFL. He's like hey, do you know the guy Najee Harris? I'm like yeah. He's like yeah, he was my pop owner teammate in sixth grade. That guy was absolutely. That's crazy, it's like he still talked to him. He's like no, he switched schools. He went to a lot nicer private school, but anyways it's crazy.
Speaker 5:Interesting. Just figured Phil would hit that score. That was in.
Speaker 3:Texas, right? Yeah, it was in Texas, but he's from California.
Speaker 5:That's cool, Trent. If I were you right now, I wouldn't touch a running back for a while.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's what I was thinking. I was like I'm just going wide receivers. Mostly I'm doing this just I want to see what happens if I take Bijon in the first round where it lands. I did that earlier day. I kind of liked it. I wish a LaVe or Ridley would have fell to me, but I should have known with you guys that that wasn't going to happen.
Speaker 5:Those are probably two of our favorite guys. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 3:So I just figured that those two wouldn't have. I would have had to have reached on them. But do you think me taking Ridley or LaVe at two seven would have been good. I feel like that's just a little too early.
Speaker 5:Yeah, it's too early. Yeah, I think I'll tell your team and go through real quick.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I have a. Stefan Diggs, patrick Mahomes, dk Metcalf, debo, samuel and Christian.
Speaker 5:Watson, I don't mind your team. It's just kind of what we talked about how, like you have a five one of your.
Speaker 1:I have a fifth guy who I won't be able to use weekly, and so it's just tough.
Speaker 4:Like draft at ETN in the third, or can make your fifth. Yeah, I don't mind your strategy.
Speaker 5:Honestly, like I don't mind your strategy. It's just tough to use a fifth round pick on someone you may not play every week. You can't you can't physically play four receivers Now. This is a three wide receiver and a flex. I think your strategy.
Speaker 1:I think, yeah, it's great, it's fine, like yeah, it wasn't explained well in the initial yeah.
Speaker 3:What also is it? You know? What is it always explained? Well, is you know? There's all these guys that do these fantasy football leagues and they forget one of the most important parts, and that's having a trophy for your league, phil. That's true.
Speaker 2:You need to have a trophy, let's just pop it up, that segue.
Speaker 3:You got it, you got to have, you got to have your name.
Speaker 1:Or belt.
Speaker 3:Seth has a belt. I'm surprised it's not on right now, or a loser award.
Speaker 4:It's hard to see with my belt on because it's so big yeah.
Speaker 3:So we got a WWE belt for our dynasty league. Seth worked the draft. Everyone hated him more than normal. But yeah, it's draft season and you still got time to make a custom trophy, guys. So go to trophysmackcom forward slash dudes. Take your fantasy football league to the next level. They got last place awards, draft boards, loser awards all your fantasy football needs, guys. And I was talking to my cousin, the one that drafted Russell Wilson. He just got married recently and he said that his father-in-law still do this to the sticker board. You know it has the same buddies from high school past 20 years.
Speaker 5:They still do the sticker board. That's cool. Sticker boards are cool. The the league, the Phil reference. Earlier the WWE league ran by a I think he's a listener of the pod. We did sticker, he does sticker board.
Speaker 4:And he ordered it. He ordered it again, so like we're doing stickers again.
Speaker 5:It's kind of cool because Trent and I the main league we do, we don't do sticker board, so it's kind of fun to do a sticker board the first time that league drafted the sticker board and I was the MC. Yes, you were the. Do you remember that? That's always just a fun video of that anywhere. Trent, I need to pull that video yeah.
Speaker 3:We had like round people who'd carry the signs out for what round it was. It was a good time, that was awesome.
Speaker 1:Yeah, trent was one of those round people. You would be shocked to see photos from that. Yeah, I'd get canceled.
Speaker 3:So anyways, start the 12th or to start the six round off here on the turn team 12,. I'm going to resume the draft guys Resume.
Speaker 4:It feels going to be ever launched. I just went, yeah, six two.
Speaker 1:And then I was going to go with Deandre Swift, and that is a bummer. Now Phil has the cramp.
Speaker 5:I will say I'm starting a little lower on Deandre Swift, Like I'm not full where Trent thinks he should go, but like it's concerning a little bit that like did you see the coach wearing the?
Speaker 3:gain well shirt. Yeah, that's pure troll, but like.
Speaker 5:I also think there's like there's reports that like five different running backs took first team reps, and like one practice, like it's concerning to me, I will say rushing touchdowns at Jalen Hertz have last year 12, 12,.
Speaker 4:I think he had 12. Like, hopefully that comes down after drafting those running. It's just that I still think he's going to get like 10.
Speaker 5:I still think that he's the best running back there. Okay, hear me out, I'm going with Javante. I don't mind that, phil, I'm going with Javante. You got to load up on these high upside. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, and he I mean people the stuff at a training camp is that he. They're amazed at how quick he looks he's healed, like his ADP is going to start shooting up.
Speaker 1:I've been fighting my way back my entire life, Like are you shocked by anything less? Like you knew I was just going to come in there and I was like that was a horrible thing.
Speaker 2:I can't believe you, all right.
Speaker 3:Followed by that, we had Brandon Iuk, mike Williams, michael Pittman. So I'm up here, I'm going to go with my boy, kp Kyle Pitti, kyle Pitts, pitt City.
Speaker 5:Calvin Cook. It is crazy early for someone who we don't even know what team he's going to be on where he's going to go. I think people think Dalvin Cook is better than what he actually is, and he might be going to the Jets.
Speaker 3:It's a horrible spot. Yeah, that's what they're saying.
Speaker 5:They have Michael Carter, they have Breeze Hall and Izzy I can't say I'm going to butcher his last name, akabanda. He looked. I know it's preseason, but he looked really good.
Speaker 4:Okay, I am going to go for some strategy here. I think I'm going to go Christian Kirk over Marquis Brown and Tyler Lockett. Don't hate it.
Speaker 5:I don't know, I'm really high on our office.
Speaker 3:What was Mike Evans ADP last year? Like we're in the seventh round, basically, and Mike Evans is still on the board, like that is never.
Speaker 5:He's a big play receiver with bacon.
Speaker 3:I understand, it's just crazy.
Speaker 5:It's just crazy. Okay, I am going 25.
Speaker 1:Wasn't he I?
Speaker 3:maybe not last year Like he's. He's always been a wide receiver one, I will tell you this.
Speaker 5:But yeah, if Baker Mayfield looks good in the preseason, he's ADP will start to shoot up. You're right, but shoot. I heard it's still open quarterback competition there.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and Baker's thrown like nine picks so far this season in their seven, which is low for it.
Speaker 5:And it's why Godwin's still going somewhat like he went in the fifth round is because he's more suitable to that style of both quarterbacks. Okay, you guys think I can wait on? How about?
Speaker 1:Dak throwing all these past trade. What do you have to say about that?
Speaker 3:CD Lam said Stefan Gilmore is the smartest corner he's ever played against. He said it's totally chess, before the balls even hiked. He said Gilmore tells him like what the route is and really he says he's right. So yeah, defense is just nails. So basically he's basically, he's a.
Speaker 5:He's a, not a good thinker. On the fly, trent is what you're saying.
Speaker 3:Does it really depends? Well, yeah, I think Gilmore is going to help that defense a lot, though I am taking a one of my favorite.
Speaker 5:I'm going to take one of my favorite guys here and this later I'm going to take Rashad White. I really like it's like the antithesis of what we're just talking about with the bucks like they're going to run the ball. They're going to run the ball and they're going to use him as check down guy. There's a lot of stuff coming out of camp. He's going to be a three down back Like. I think Rashad White could be in for a huge role now on a bad team. But big role, yeah, and where you're getting them like, yeah, it's a good six round.
Speaker 4:Last pick of the six round.
Speaker 5:Okay, and then I am going to.
Speaker 3:Hey, Javante, he was going high in drafts last year too.
Speaker 1:Would Stealth on Gilmore would have put his shoulder down on Kittle. You think? Yes, I agree with that.
Speaker 5:I am going to take. I don't love Pacheco here. I don't love David Montgomery.
Speaker 3:We're in the seventh round. This is only 11 round draft.
Speaker 5:Thank you, I am going to go with I like Addison, but that's too many Vikings. Man Deontay Johnson, George Pickens it's hard for me to decide between those two. I'm going, Jason.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I did that in my other league too. I picked Jason I think it was about the seventh round and I really think he's just gonna pass up Tyler Lockett and then the food chain there, and that's who I was gonna pick If it came to me. I need a receiver. Honestly, I still think of all these receivers that I man. Actually, I think I'd rather take a dart through at Jordan Addison here.
Speaker 5:I actually I like I said I prefer Addison over Jason and I would re-draft.
Speaker 4:I pick.
Speaker 5:Addison here. Yeah, I just without having so many Vikings already, I just it doesn't make sense.
Speaker 3:So when Addison, Mike Evans, Darren Waller, I'm gonna draft the best wide receiver in the NFL, George Pickens.
Speaker 5:You say the what.
Speaker 3:Best wide receiver in the NFL.
Speaker 5:Who said that, george?
Speaker 3:Pickens said that. He said I'm the best. Did you see the catch?
Speaker 5:I didn't see that.
Speaker 2:You didn't see the catch he made that was pretty sweet.
Speaker 3:His catch was pretty sweet what he's been making, but yeah, he's having a really good camp it was OBJS.
Speaker 1:Hey, I will say, did you say Trent? Yeah, Trent.
Speaker 5:If that guy wasn't hurt for most of his college career he would have been like a first round draft pick. Yeah, he would have had a way more hype. Come in the league here. It is right here, jordan.
Speaker 3:It's up there on the screen.
Speaker 5:It's not you gotta hex it out of the.
Speaker 3:Oh, it's cause it's not on Chrome, my bad.
Speaker 5:You gotta and you gotta cast that tab.
Speaker 1:It was very OBJ. It was sweet. Yeah, extremely Well, Trent's figuring that out.
Speaker 5:He took Pickens. Team seven went to Sean Watson, Isaiah Pacheco, Dave Montgomery. Phil's in the clock here.
Speaker 4:I think Pacheco's a sneaky value.
Speaker 5:I just you know there's rumors of a running back and running sign there or Jonathan Taylor getting traded there and there's also like McKinnon's gonna be there and CEH got has been looking well in camp for him, that's so interesting.
Speaker 4:Last year CEH hardly seen the field at the end of the season.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I mean he's not good, so I mean I can't.
Speaker 4:Well they're. I said they're just riding the hot hands.
Speaker 5:Yeah.
Speaker 4:Pacheco and McKinnon, like were the playmakers of that team. I feel like in the playoffs like crazy.
Speaker 3:You guys following the draft still, yeah, I will, I will have Kincaid Phil just took Kincaid.
Speaker 2:My boy.
Speaker 5:Team 11 went Lockett, then Deontay Johnson, john Dodson, aj Dillon, back to Phil Trent. I don't know why you just open a tab and cast that tab, that's what I did.
Speaker 3:I don't know why it's not working. It says it's casting. It's not so, cause I'm on YouTube.
Speaker 5:So maybe because I'm using YouTube on there. Oh, maybe because YouTube videos clench right to YouTube. Yeah, I'll look at it. Just pull it up right here.
Speaker 1:I'm going with Jamal Williams.
Speaker 5:Okay so.
Speaker 4:Phil went.
Speaker 5:Jamal Williams.
Speaker 4:Phil Phil, phil Phil Phil. I would have took James Cook instead of Jamal Williams. The thing I thought I also would have done that I took, but I don't know why I didn't. Because Naeem Hines is hurt. He's their number one guy there. No, and they said he's been like doing everything.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and they probably throw him out in the slot. Honestly, that was a regrettable pick, but I felt like I was a little under the gun.
Speaker 5:Phil has getting his practice.
Speaker 1:I was trying to help this guy get this.
Speaker 3:I took Quentin Johnson, followed by Jack Prescott, then Kaderis Tony.
Speaker 1:I was trying to help this guy cast it on there and it's?
Speaker 5:Hey, there's no, there's Damien Harris, latt Murray, like Fresno State boy, jordan Mims. That guy, jordan Mims, might make this team for its worth. What team? The Bills? James Cook, damien Harris, latavius Murray, darrington Evans, jordan Mims That'd be sweet to see, Mims. He's going to be on the practice squad for sure, and if one of those running bats could hurt, he might.
Speaker 1:No isn't he the number three guy right now?
Speaker 5:No, he's fifth in their deb chart, but Name it again James Cook, damien Harris, latt, murray, darrington Evans, jordan, mims.
Speaker 4:What team was Latin?
Speaker 1:Murray. He could be flirting with number three, gamber last year.
Speaker 5:No, that's what I'm saying. I wouldn't be surprised if he's better than Latt Murray at this point.
Speaker 4:I think I need to take a man I don't know, it's my computer game here. I think I'm going to go for another running back here. I don't know the whole situation with the Washington Redskins or sorry, not the Redskins, the commanders running back situation Like are they going to be using Brian Robinson, arizona and Tenio Gibson in the beginning?
Speaker 1:Well, almost, I almost went for those.
Speaker 4:They're close in ADP it's 90 and 102. What's your?
Speaker 3:take Jordan on that OC there for the commanders. Like you think he might use Gibson more.
Speaker 5:I haven't heard much about Gibson coming out of camp Like, have you guys heard?
Speaker 1:which is crazy because lots of people are coming out of camp.
Speaker 4:Sam Howe Okay, I have 30 seconds for this pick, but if you look at the rushing like projection 613 of Gibson, colorado, brian Robinson 772. I guess the receiving is more so I'm just going to go into a new Gibson.
Speaker 5:Okay, I got to take. I'm on the clock, I have to take a running back here probably, and I'm going to take. Is everyone have you think they'll take two quarterbacks in this league?
Speaker 3:The computer does funny things in these monitors I know it does Like waiting for quarterbacks, like does anyone have two? Yet no one has two. No, no one has two. But Anthony Richardson hasn't been picked yet, so I'm wondering if a computer's going to take him Seth also doesn't have a quarterback so you can kind of jack him if you want, Okay.
Speaker 5:I'm going to take. I know he's hurt but I know one of the Dolphins fans that was at our Dianna C Drowth the other day. He flew in from now on.
Speaker 3:He flew in from Nashville. He flew in from Nashville For a rookie draft.
Speaker 5:He pays attention to the Dolphins quite a bit. He said A-Chain was buried on the depth chart a little bit but I really like the guy's talent. I think he fits their scheme really well and Mostard and Jeff Wilson are pulled hamstring waiting to happen. So I am going to go with A-Chain here and I'm trying to decide do I take another running back here and hope I can get Kurt Cousins or do I just grab Kurt Cousins here?
Speaker 4:If you don't grab Kurt Cousins, I'm probably gonna. I'm taking Kurt Cousins.
Speaker 5:So I got Kurt Cousins Like a little best ball strategy here. But Kurt Cousins with Hawkinson and Jefferson, I love that. I think Cousins has the upside in that offense to really put up big numbers.
Speaker 3:You're gonna lose all those prime time games, though it's true, I don't care if he loses, I'm going.
Speaker 5:I try what the QB Doc me on Netflix. It's gonna bring him back to life.
Speaker 3:That's true, and they can't get anyone to go in. I think Herbert's gonna be on it.
Speaker 5:Unless he said no. Who said yes already? No, I don't think he.
Speaker 1:I don't think they're saying I don't think they're announcing. Yes, Someone confirmed Dak. I wouldn't be surprised if he was.
Speaker 3:Dak no. Dak said no. He said I'm on TV enough.
Speaker 5:Trevor Lawrence said that it's Trevor's. Lawrence said that I could see myself doing the future. Not the right time for him right now. I wonder if they're gonna have a kid or something.
Speaker 1:Josh.
Speaker 5:Yellen would be cool.
Speaker 3:Jordan broke the news right here Trevor Lawrence is having a kid.
Speaker 5:I feel like his wife might be pregnant right now, but I'm not 100% sure. I don't follow him on Instagram. I don't know.
Speaker 1:How are you? What are you basing this on?
Speaker 5:No, because he said in his interview he said I could see myself. I really like the show could see it in the future. It's not the right time for me this year to do that.
Speaker 3:And that automatically means having a kid, that's breaking news right there, so in eight months.
Speaker 5:Who else said that it was too personal? Like he goes in their personal life too much.
Speaker 3:It wasn't Burrow. I don't think Burrow's doing it either, though Someone said did Dak say it was too personal, cause he says he's on TV?
Speaker 1:Maybe Dak said that and Russell Wilson.
Speaker 3:Oh, russell Wilson is probably mad, he hasn't been asked.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no one wants to see that honestly.
Speaker 4:Okay it might be like the things he might say might be like too much. Oh, yes, for sure You'd be like wait, would that guy just say, yes, like you'd be. Like what, like what? Is he trying to be inspirational, or?
Speaker 3:like, yeah, I took, I took Jameson Williams. Why is he?
Speaker 4:taking a knee in the middle of his living room.
Speaker 3:Followed by Juju Smith's juicer, Pat Furmuth. Why don't?
Speaker 1:they do Stafford and.
Speaker 4:Rund place.
Speaker 3:I think Stafford might have said no too. Yeah, that'd be too easy to do, those guys.
Speaker 5:Oh, Joe Burrow is on net.
Speaker 3:Oh, he is on it, yes.
Speaker 1:That's a great one, he was the one that was confirmed, says Josh Allen, still mulling it over.
Speaker 5:That was three days ago.
Speaker 1:Josh Allen would be sweet yeah.
Speaker 3:So I took Jameson Williams. He was followed by Juju Smith's juicer, then Pat Furmuth, david Najoku at 9.9 and Phil is on the clock at 9.10.
Speaker 5:Oh a team took a well Seth took Daniel Jones. We didn't mention that. Team five took two QBs and a mock draft, Woo and two. Team eight took two tight ends. What are we doing, people? It's computer. I guess that's Trent's burner. Team nine took two.
Speaker 2:My burner account is team eight.
Speaker 5:Trent, we almost should like do two. Can we do two Like two?
Speaker 3:teams If you did another username.
Speaker 5:We should have burned, yeah, we should have burned our usernames.
Speaker 3:We could invite people to get on and do it if they wanted to. Yeah, that'd be kind of fun I did a mock draft of the guy in our league one time.
Speaker 5:Here's a problem. The pod would take too long. Yeah, a couple guys. If we told them like, hey, can you kind of get it done quick, I would say flowers.
Speaker 3:People would get on to mock draft if we did it at a decent, like a live mock draft. Anthony Richardson went at 10-1, followed by Rashad Penny at 10-2.
Speaker 5:Yeah, this is the problem with these mock drafts with the computer. They're not realistic, because no one people shouldn't be taking two.
Speaker 3:QBs and I will be posting these mock draft results on Twitter, at TFFdudes and Instagram. Give us a follow at TFFdudes on YouTube. A lot of our views are people that aren't subbed.
Speaker 4:Put a vote on there too, and say which person are the worst team.
Speaker 3:Yeah, worst team or best team?
Speaker 4:Both.
Speaker 2:Oh you can't, you can't.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and remember don't be rude.
Speaker 5:Share the dudes, guys, or we don't have to Phil. Why take Elijah Mitchell Over Herbert?
Speaker 4:Khalil yes, he has. Phil has some homes. Khalil Herbert oh sorry, sorry.
Speaker 5:I don't know, or Robinson, or Even just double up on the Broncos running backs and preen. I almost got P.
Speaker 1:Rhin.
Speaker 3:You should have P?
Speaker 1:Rhin I almost got P Rhin, but I almost. I didn't want to double up on the Broncos running backs. That's the true reason why I didn't. But I considered going with P Rhin.
Speaker 5:Phil Strudling with the running backs.
Speaker 1:Which is shocking that you hear you say that Phil actually played running back. You hate Denver.
Speaker 5:No, I just don't understand. Elijah Mitchell Over at Clio Herbert, I guess is what I really wanted.
Speaker 1:I just think that that backfield's kind of wild.
Speaker 5:Deuce is wild. You're basically praying that. I shouldn't say that because you don't want to pray someone gets hurt, but like you're hoping CMC gets hurt, there's a good chance.
Speaker 1:Well, how many snaps did you play? 60% of the snaps last year.
Speaker 5:Yeah, but I mean.
Speaker 1:So Mitchell's taking 40%. This is my 10th guy in the draft I already have. I mean probably should have got a better running back, but that's your third running back, though. Yeah, that's the thing. What if he goes down?
Speaker 5:Oh yeah, that's what I'm saying. You're hoping CMC gets hurt.
Speaker 3:Seth, you know you're right. That's kind of rude to wish that upon it. Wish ill of people.
Speaker 1:Jordan prayed for it which I don't think is right. No I said you'd be praying. He's having a talk with our pastor. Not only did he tell us, not only did he tell us that someone's having a baby, he's also praying for someone to get injured.
Speaker 3:We're going to talk about this after the pod.
Speaker 1:What do you think of an opening line, jordan, just being like hey, do you?
Speaker 4:This is when you start taking some dart throws. Here I think I'm I.
Speaker 3:That's all you have to say is hey, Jordan, it's a dart throw. We don't know who the guy is going to be in Carolina or on the giant.
Speaker 1:I usually host hey Seth's trying to talk.
Speaker 5:I think, DJ Chark.
Speaker 4:It might make a splash in Carolina or Jaylen Hyatt, but I think I'm going to go with the trusted DJ Chark.
Speaker 1:Let's clap it up for that explanation. You know what? Can I make a point to your?
Speaker 5:explanation.
Speaker 3:That's what everybody wanted Seth.
Speaker 5:can I make a counterpoint to your explanation?
Speaker 2:Go ahead.
Speaker 3:Daniel Jordan is your quarterback.
Speaker 5:So you should take Jaylen, you should take Hyatt.
Speaker 3:He might go again on the way back, though, unless you snipe him. Jordan, I do like.
Speaker 5:Hyatt, I like one of those Giants receivers.
Speaker 4:I think I'm going to take Hyatt if he comes back.
Speaker 1:Just get him right now.
Speaker 3:Jordan, this is my draft Show him who's boss. Show him who's boss. End of friendship over this.
Speaker 5:How many more rounds do we have? Is this the last?
Speaker 3:two rounds. Two rounds, 11 rounds.
Speaker 1:Oh man, jordan, come on, baby, we'll. See.
Speaker 5:We'll see. Ooh, I like this. I'm going to take Jared McKinnon here.
Speaker 4:And Jaylen Hyatt.
Speaker 5:And so that would give me four running backs. This would give me five. Yeah, I like that, that's perfect. I have a tie in. I got a quarterback. No, I'm not going to take Hyatt here. I like, actually, really like I've always kind of liked this guy because he had a really good year in Jackson when I liked him. And then Aaron Rodgers loves this guy. I'm taking Alan Lazard here. Oh, that's good, aaron Rodgers loves him. He mentioned him on the broadcast. He was like the preseason game. When they had him on the interview he was like, yeah, garrett Wilson's awesome. And then he's like I got you know, alan Lazard, who you know I'm super from. Like he always makes Alan Lazard just boy, so and I think he's probably what the number they have Garrett Wilson, corey Davis, alan Lazard, randall Cobb am I missing someone?
Speaker 4:there. I can't believe. Alan Lazard and Randall Cobb are both from the team with Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 5:And you know, a condition of Aaron Rodgers going to the Jets was them signing Lazard. So and I just don't think Corey Davis is that good.
Speaker 3:So Seth took Jaylen Hyatt. Team four took Cheek, then Darnell Mooney. I'm going to go with.
Speaker 5:What do you need here, Trent? You only have two running backs.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm just punting them. I'm going to go with Kendra Miller.
Speaker 5:I don't mind that that you're going to go OBJ, I was maybe going OBJ. You guys, for the sake of like, you got to have a third running back. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Then OBJ went to team seven. Geno Smith at team eight, jared Goff at 11-9, and Phil at 11-10.
Speaker 5:This is where the draft gets screwed up. This is a dart through a line. No one's Phil picking, no one's taking two quarterbacks in the lead.
Speaker 3:Well, and Phil did. Phil has Dalton Cankade. He didn't plant his flag hard enough on that. I feel like hearing the draft when he did that.
Speaker 5:Yeah, he didn't even mention that, yeah.
Speaker 3:Like how come I just noticed you took Dalton Cankade. The guy we haven't talked about is the Packers tied in for Jordan.
Speaker 1:Musgrave yeah, Like they say, he's the fastest guy on the team. I thought you would like this one, Jordan.
Speaker 5:Really, do you like that pick right there? No, I don't, because you should never draft two tight ends in a draft.
Speaker 3:Two rookie tight ends for that matter. Laporta's going to play in my flex.
Speaker 2:Just move on.
Speaker 3:Let's recap everybody's draft. Jordan, you want to recap your draft?
Speaker 5:Say your favorite pick, your least favorite pick I got Justin Jefferson, tony Pollard, calvin Ridley, drake London, tj Hawkinson, rashad White, jsn Devon A-Chain, kirk Cousins, jared McKinn, alan Lazard. Honestly, I think Tony Pollard's my least favorite pick, but I needed to grab running back there. I didn't really love where I was at, but I want to have running back in two or three. And my favorite pick Favorite pick might be like Drake London as my wide receiver, three in the flex, because I just think he's gonna be good this year. And I know I don't want to sound like a hypocrite because I kind of hate on the Falcons, but like I Just think he's a stud.
Speaker 3:So I even have to explain yourself on that one.
Speaker 4:Seth. I got Christian McCaffrey in the first, demonda Smith in the second, a la ve third, miles Sanders in the fourth, george Kittle, christian Kirk, jordan Addison and Tony Gibson, daniel Jones, dj shark in Jalen Hyatt I my least favorite pick is Antonio Gibson. I don't really know what he's gonna do, but I feel like I needed another Running back there. Maybe I feel like I could have gotten someone else, maybe through a dart throw at a chain. My favorite pick man I think I think I just got to go with McCaffrey is my number one. I.
Speaker 3:Had B John Robinson, garrett Wilson in the second, najee Harrison, the third, justin Herbert in the fourth, dj more in the fifth, kyle Pitts in the six, george Pickens. In the seventh, quentin Johnson and an eighth, jameson Williams in the ninth, elijah Mitchell in the tenth, keondre Miller in the 11th. I will say that my Favorite pick I probably. I like pits at six. I think that's a good spot to get him and he's what the one, two, three, four, fifth, tight end off the board. My least favorite pick is probably Garrett Wilson, and I'm always saying that because I got that, hoping I would get. Maybe I'll say Najee, but I really wanted Ridley or London in the third and he got sniped right there. But I couldn't know. You could have drafted Drake, london, sorry, calvin Ridley, or a lot of a lobby and I took, I don't think, those three.
Speaker 5:None of them were coming back and here's the problem with you saying pitches your favorite pick. You have B John on your team.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and they're like.
Speaker 5:Falcons it's tough like they're only gonna score so many points and like Kyle Pitts needs touchdowns and I both need TDs. It's tough, like that's the problem.
Speaker 3:I. I'm getting higher on Robinson every week, though, like that Falcons line was really good last year for ready.
Speaker 5:I'll be honest, trent, I don't love your team, and here's why and yeah, I don't like Herbert there either. In the fourth I don't love your team because you were taking dart throws at receivers and I just think it should be the opposite like I think like Garrett Wilson's mind like solid receivers, yeah cuz. Dj Moore is the number one with Justin Fields, let offense. So it's just hard to know like oh.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no, that's a huge dart throw.
Speaker 5:And then you got George Pig and I like George Piggins, quentin Johnston James and Williams Elijah Moore, like they're guys that like I just think I have a hard time figuring out who to play between all of them and I would rather have that, I would rather have that trouble with running backs and be like, okay, I got to figure out between these running backs who are all on time shares which I'm gonna play, and it's just I don't know. I know I Like that's why I've kind of flipped the strategy where I'd like one solid running back, three, three solid wide receivers, and I'll try to all pray that I can get six points out of my RB, two every week.
Speaker 3:Yeah and then yeah, the first round. There was probably my best to get that wide receiver you guys my mocks I happen. I guess I could have took Kelsey.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I could have done Kelsey and Trent. Honestly, you could have got Najee where you got him.
Speaker 3:Yeah, regardless of whatever.
Speaker 5:Kelsey Mahomes?
Speaker 3:No, maybe not Mahomes you say Kelsey it, I think it's be really hard to get Kelsey Mahomes stacks this year unless it's Depends where you're at. I wasn't far off.
Speaker 5:You could have got Trent, you could have got Kelsey, garrett Wilson, najee I think that could have been your top three rounds and you might have been feeling really good about that draft. Yeah, and you could have loaded up on running backs and you could take receiver, receiver loaded up in running backs where you took all Pick ins Quentin Johnson, james, I don't know, that's just my thoughts.
Speaker 3:I, your team's, interesting to me because I think I know my favorite pick on Phil's team.
Speaker 5:Yeah, go Phil. Sorry, We've took your shine away yeah are we doing?
Speaker 1:am I listening? Them all I yeah, yeah, yeah so I got seven digs Patrick Mahomes, dk, mecca of Debo, samuel Watson, jamal Williams, dalton Kincaid Sorry. Javonte Williams, jamal Williams, zay flowers, elijah Mitchell, san La Porta. My favorite pick there, I have to say, is Javonte Williams, where I got him. I'm happy with that pick. The one that I would have gotten rid of I don't really like where I got DK there I Probably could have gotten, I I probably could have gotten nausea. I'd not.
Speaker 5:I probably know that's the wrong way you could got ETN.
Speaker 1:No, that's the right way. I could have got nausea.
Speaker 3:No, no, you can't have got nausea here.
Speaker 1:No, it's like this way, and then it goes oh yes, sorry, I could have got ETN or nausea. No sorry you can live. Lord help me.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I could have got ETN Apollo. I like your Javonte Williams pick, that's. Yeah, I like your Christian Watson.
Speaker 5:I don't know. Yeah, I also, I wanted shocking how good it is.
Speaker 1:But, yes, no, I got thrown off there. Yes, I should have gotten ETN Instead of DK, back cap and everything else I'm. For the most part, I'm fine and I also don't hate the Elijah Mitchell pick. Jordan, I just think okay.
Speaker 5:Here's my issue, though, phil, is that You're taking a dart throw. You have Javonte Williams, jamal Williams, elijah Mitchell. You're taking a backup running back. I don't know like. I just have a hard time seeing that CMC is not gonna play a lot. I just would rather take the safety with little Herbert a little bit. I know they have who is there? They got a takes me off.
Speaker 3:Phil that, dr Brock Purdy.
Speaker 5:Yonsey Foreman, I think, but I Don't know. Phil, I really like couple your picks, yeah T.
Speaker 3:Higgins was one that I almost took over Najee Harris right there at the moment. At the moment. I just don't like. I'm more worried about burrow right now. What's gonna happen with that? I think he's gonna play, but calf injuries are not fun and they don't go away fast. It's just it's rest. That's all he can really do, um being the only guy with a calf injury on the pod.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna count, I'm gonna like a like a high ankle sprain. Yeah, low calf.
Speaker 3:What is your favorite pick in this whole draft? Altogether, just all teams, set aside Jordan.
Speaker 5:Lots of pressure.
Speaker 3:I kind of like a John Dotson in the eighth over there at the end.
Speaker 5:Yeah, don't mind that some buzz on him.
Speaker 3:I like James Cook by team seven at in the eighth round.
Speaker 4:James cooks been having some big plays also could have gotten James Cook, I think I know what the worst pick is, but Dalvin cooking the sixth with no team.
Speaker 5:Yeah, you hated that one. I just don't get some of these. My, it's just bad drafting. I don't know, some of these are just bad drafting, but so it's hard with the computer so that does for our draft.
Speaker 3:We're gonna get into our Divas here of the week. Phil, how's your back doing? I know I didn't ask you, it's rough.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm not doing yet I haven't been running, just been walking, you know, just walking around to I get those steps, I get those steps, I get the steps in.
Speaker 3:Divas, jordan, you want to say or diva the week, you got something else in the underdog ad read we did that already Did the dog wasn't a great one because it was kind of awkward doing an underdog ad read for a sleeper.
Speaker 5:Well, you can read it right now.
Speaker 3:I want to reread it I.
Speaker 5:I don't have enough. I think I was gonna give you a real good segue if you did the ad anyways, no, you could say it for the draft.
Speaker 3:We got a good, we gotta go draft this week things that don't make sense. Be sure to tune in for that, guys.
Speaker 5:No, no, no, no, serious underdog, it's dudes, dudes. When what's our code there? I think it's dudes 100 dudes 100 underdog deposit $100, get free. I don't know our match. It's the best place for best ball and that's my diva people who don't know and it's like a Double, double-edged sword because like it's good for you but it's also annoying people who don't know how to draft, like best ball. And the people on there like you got guys who are taking like I think I sent a screenshot of one of them you guys it's like fields hurts and and burrow. Like what are you doing? You know?
Speaker 4:you don't mean, that's a real person.
Speaker 5:And here's the issue is that it is so annoying when it's like I have, for example, Jamar Chase and you take burrow right before me. You snipe burrow and there's no reason to best ball for you to take burrow.
Speaker 2:You already had a quarterback.
Speaker 5:Yeah, it's like, oh, I'm going to take burrow over Hertz when I have AJ Brown as my receiver and you have Jamar Chase. It's like, come on, people like, what are you doing? But on the flip side, it's also good, because that means like people don't know what they're doing. But it's really frustrating if people don't know what they're doing and it messes you up. Messes you up when you were like, oh for sure I'm gonna get this. You know, like I have digs. I have digs, josh Allen's gonna follow me. No, the guy behind me with tire, with the guy in front of me, which Jamar Chase, takes Josh Allen, it's like no, take burrow. You know, like it's like people who don't know how to do best ball and really can screw up your drafts. And I know, like if you're not in the best ball streets like I, you know it's not as big of a deal, but when you're doing it, it's like you have strategies right, like you want to do it, but again, like on the other side, like it means that there's soft competition in the draft. So yeah, it just screws up your strategy. It's really annoying.
Speaker 4:It works well when they pick bad and it works for you.
Speaker 5:Yes, it's terrible when they pick bad. And it screws you up. You know it's like, hey, I have Ridley Ingram, I'm trying to get Lawrence and you take Lawrence when he could have taken someone else that correlates with your team better.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no, I agree, phil. Do you have a diva this week?
Speaker 1:It's mild, can I just say it anyway?
Speaker 3:Yeah, you can say it. We won't judge you.
Speaker 1:actually we might, I think enough people make fun of this already, so it's not an original thought, but like if you go to Chick-fil-A or In-N-Out, you are about 150 cars deep and they're already taking your order.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and you're paying it Wait what so?
Speaker 1:if you go to Chick-fil-A or In-N-Out, yeah, and you're in the line, you can be like 50 to 60 cars deep and they're already taking your order. It's because they want you to stay. They want you to stay, they don't want you to leave the line. You want to make a payment, but it's like I don't want to. You probably can ask for your receipt at the window. You probably can ask for your receipt. He has stupid, you could. All I'm saying is like I don't want my order taken when I have to wait another 45 minutes.
Speaker 3:So do you want to wait 45 more minutes? No, then they'll take it at the window.
Speaker 5:You never thought about the fact that maybe you're the diva for getting in a line with 60 cars.
Speaker 1:No that's too much logic. Why not just go inside? No, it's the same deal. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 5:It's just like you get your food faster inside.
Speaker 1:You don't If you order ahead maybe.
Speaker 4:I think you might get it faster if you go inside sometimes.
Speaker 1:Chick-fil-A. I've done it on the app before a couple of times and you still have to wait.
Speaker 5:Anyone who will sit in a drive-through line with 40 cars, you have problems.
Speaker 1:You've been to.
Speaker 5:Fresno. Right, You've seen the one in Fresno.
Speaker 1:I'm not going there.
Speaker 5:I'm just not. I'm not going to sit. Well, I'm trying to come up with content here At the end of the day, I can't give you content. You're the diva for sitting in a line with 40 cars.
Speaker 2:Here's the content Look in the mirror.
Speaker 3:Yes, whenever Phil has like something about something, we call him out he just goes.
Speaker 4:His first excuse is I'm just trying to make content.
Speaker 3:They're like well, phil, like that's not terrible, guys, you are the content, but pay with cash and they don't. You know. Then, if you change your mind, don't want it, you don't have to pay, just oh because you pay at the window.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I know.
Speaker 5:And then you just I really just think you think, even like considering going in a line with 40 cars like or split or split drive-throughs Like those are kind of annoying.
Speaker 1:I don't like the McDonald's split drive-through Now I'm sure Jordan is going to give us a 15 minute exhortation about how those are totally fine, they're probably saving the environment from freaking emissions. Like listen, guys. At the end of the day, like if something annoys me, just let it annoy me.
Speaker 5:I'm going to quit this pod If I have to deal with my unreasonable logic, I'm going to give you that 15 minute exhortation about split drive-throughs, let me quit the pod. Let me hear it. What's the exhortation? I think I don't really care.
Speaker 1:Hey here, do me a favor. Smash four cookies together and throw them in the microwave.
Speaker 4:What's to? Say I was going to put a cream on.
Speaker 3:That sounds awesome, here's my Diva the week. Ok, Jordan.
Speaker 1:In-Set, and yourself.
Speaker 3:Everyone in this room.
Speaker 1:Intervention.
Speaker 3:Intervention Noah chocolate. Ok, I like chocolate, but like the raspberry chocolate, the white chocolate, all those other chocolates Like there's dark chocolate and then there's light chocolate, that's all I want. If you're going to give me chocolate, don't give me these other, like purple chocolates, all the stuff that aren't as good.
Speaker 4:There's two chocolate Chocolate is good.
Speaker 1:No, it is not. I like white chocolate. I also don't like it. So do you not like red velvet either? No, red velvet is terrible, and no, I don't, I just want normal chocolate.
Speaker 3:I don't want these other guys. That's a bad day. Do you like red velvet cake? Yeah, white chocolate, I don't even think is chocolate.
Speaker 1:You do or don't, seth, it's OK yeah.
Speaker 5:I don't like dark chocolate. I don't really like milk chocolate either, I love white chocolate cookies. White Like chips.
Speaker 1:Like chips, like chip cookies. I love those. I'm not a big white chocolate. It's not even chocolate, isn't it like just sugar? Melted down, or what is it?
Speaker 3:White chocolate does not have cocoa or chocolate liquor?
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's not.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So it skips some of the sticks.
Speaker 4:The core.
Speaker 3:Yep. So yeah, the white chocolate. Just give me the good chocolate. Like I don't know why we have these chocolate centers.
Speaker 5:You like dark?
Speaker 3:chocolate too. I don't mind it, but I like it better than white chocolate.
Speaker 5:The older I've gotten, the more I like white chocolate. You don't like dark chocolate. I really just not a chocolate guy in certain things in general.
Speaker 1:but I agree with you there.
Speaker 5:But like brownie, like chocolate and like baked goods I liked.
Speaker 1:Yes, my favorite chocolate thing is Reese's peanut butter cups.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 1:Somebody gets you a box of seeds for Christmas, though You're right, that should tell you how much I like chocolate. A box of seeds for Christmas you don't like seas candy, you get the free samples. No, I can't sand it. You are a sad, sad man. All right, so you chocolate, yeah, just chocolate.
Speaker 3:That's not the basic chocolate.
Speaker 1:And it's a couple points on Weight Watchers.
Speaker 4:It's a couple points on chocolate, you just said you like the seas candy ones where you like bite into a random chocolate and you're like, oh, this has raspberry filling.
Speaker 3:No, I kind of I've got to the point that I kind of know them though. The marshmallow ones really good. Anything with caramel is pretty good.
Speaker 1:Like the clusters, but that's half the box. The rest of the box is garbage.
Speaker 3:Just learn, just learn them, OK, Seth.
Speaker 4:So you don't like you have box to eat half, and then who eats the trash ones? You kind of in half. It gives them to us kids.
Speaker 5:Like what type of Seeds?
Speaker 2:Seeds, the seas candy box.
Speaker 5:Why are you getting seas yeah?
Speaker 3:At the company. A lot of customers will send boxes of seas candy You're talking to a guy who puts ketchup on his burritos or like what that should.
Speaker 5:Trent, you're, I have you are a Jeeva for eating seas candy Like no, no you eat that during Christmas.
Speaker 3:Seeds is great.
Speaker 5:No one who likes chocolate eats seas candy.
Speaker 1:This guy's acting like a chocolate connoisseur.
Speaker 3:Yeah, actually, Jordan. I agree with you Seeds, candy is only on the West Coast, Trent that's what.
Speaker 5:What are you like, russell Stover? No, you get like you're a deli.
Speaker 2:You're a deli. You're a deli is pretty good, I'll say you're. You're a deli, though it's just like chocolate with caramel or mint.
Speaker 1:That's what you're asking for. That's what you're asking for.
Speaker 3:Seeds. Candy is not cheap, it's cheap.
Speaker 2:Quality.
Speaker 3:No it's not cheap quality. No, it's not. Yes, it is no for sure it's cheap candy.
Speaker 1:The Ghirardelli spot in San Francisco. I haven't been. Oh it's awesome, but it used to be like I have not been to that. I have not been to that. I've had Ghirardelli.
Speaker 5:I like seas more than.
Speaker 1:Ghirardelli, california adventure. There's like the stuff.
Speaker 5:Is it stuffed or stew?
Speaker 3:I don't like how they're thin like that, like I want a fatter chocolate. Are they all thin little? Are they all thin little chocolates like that? Not dumb? No, not, you do not tell me. You think Dove that they sell at CVS is higher class than Ceasecand.
Speaker 5:Oh yes, no, it's not. No, it is not. No, it's not. I'm just telling you, you're wrong here, yeah.
Speaker 3:Okay, white chocolate. So what's your? What's your?
Speaker 5:I'd say chocolate advice from the guy who puts ketchup on his, on his, on his burrito. I think that is hot dog you understand Ceasecand.
Speaker 3:He's like only like a California thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I get. Why does that change my opinion about?
Speaker 3:it. It's the in and out burger of chocolates.
Speaker 1:Phil, it is it is.
Speaker 2:It sucks.
Speaker 3:Go to Ceasecand on Christmas and wait two hours in a line. That'll tell you how good it is, oh yeah.
Speaker 5:Because, yeah, it's identical to in and out Chick-fil-A.
Speaker 3:They did the lines huge. Those eggs you get for Easter are amazing.
Speaker 1:I'll agree with you there. The eggs are pretty good. The eggs are different, though. I agree, jordan, I agree with you. I have to say.
Speaker 5:I will say that I agree with that. I should be shocked the guy who puts ketchup on his burrito. Thinks Ceasecand is the goba chocolate.
Speaker 3:Next time you guys get, you know like you can get your wife. You know Ceasecand, or you can go to Walgreens and get a Russell Stover or Dove Like it's no comparison guys.
Speaker 2:This is Russell Stover.
Speaker 3:It's so that Walgreens right next to the Dove you buy.
Speaker 5:The fact that you would buy Russell Stover's over Dove is like.
Speaker 3:Trent. No, the fact that you want to argue Ghirardelli's, that's a fine argument.
Speaker 5:But the same, that Dove and Cease is the same. They sell Ghirardelli and CVS.
Speaker 1:I guess I can't get it because it's at CVS. What's your beef with CVS?
Speaker 3:I don't mind CVS, I'm saying Ceasecandy is a candy establishment. That is great. There's tons of good candies.
Speaker 5:You are the reason why Ceasecandy is in business. People like you.
Speaker 3:No, there's a ton of people that like Ceasecandy, you feel like you're going to a pharmacy.
Speaker 5:There's a chocolate store that has a line Every time you go. Just because a ton of people like something, that means that it's the right thing to do. Trent.
Speaker 3:You're right. So in and out burger because a lot of people are in line there means it's no good, or?
Speaker 5:that means it's good, probably not worth the wait.
Speaker 3:If you have a line, it means it's good guys.
Speaker 1:No, Ceasecandy is not good. You guys are horrible. Take no, you guys are crazy.
Speaker 5:This is your take, so he went with white chocolate.
Speaker 3:I said white chocolate, no, no, he said there's too many varieties, yeah.
Speaker 1:And then he said Cease is good because it has multiple varieties, but you get a Ceasecandy box.
Speaker 3:It's all one color chocolate. You don't have whites in there, you don't. Maybe there's an assorted one like that.
Speaker 5:No one sells white chocolate and chocolate truffle.
Speaker 2:like you just said, you like white chocolate, I like white chocolate.
Speaker 5:There's no white chocolate at Ghirardelli or Dove or any of those things.
Speaker 4:It's not real chocolate.
Speaker 5:You're comparing like apples and oranges, like whatever whatever, which, again, shouldn't be shocking.
Speaker 3:Oh, I'm taking advice from which device from someone that eats, you know, cookies and whipping cream, and this is a connoisseur and then someone over here who thinks Denny's is a, you know, midnight snack.
Speaker 2:And I was thinking advice, denny's is a midnight snack and tacos like don't dog it till you, try it.
Speaker 3:Jordan.
Speaker 1:Well, don't dog the cookies and cookies with whipped cream till you try it. Yeah, that's a conversation starter. Yeah, yeah, hi, I'm Tri. I'm a ketchup whopper, what is?
Speaker 3:he? What is he? A party trick. Hand me a can of whipped cream.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 3:All right, jordan. Does everyone know they're diva Jordan? What's your diva he?
Speaker 5:did it already, you did it already.
Speaker 4:All right, you're in shambles, you're in shambles, All right.
Speaker 1:Well, hey guys thanks for coming in. Let's just vote real quick. If Brian goes Trance was the worst Put me out of my misery. Then me, then Jordan, then Seth. Those are all pretty bad.
Speaker 3:If you're the worst, you got whatever. I'm shutting the club down, Phil. See you guys next time and take care.
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Speaker 4:Trent puts ketchup on.
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